Very specific music request. (angry metal with a groove)

Napalm Death - Fear, Emptiness, Despair
Sepultura - Chaos A.D.

What is whingeing?

It's something British.

What is whingeing?

System of a Down? Musically they might be a bit on the poppy/arty side for you, and lyrically they tend towards the political, but the guy sounds personally affronted at the injustices he's singing about a lot of the time, and they certainly have a groove.

Judging from the other bands you're naming, I'm guessing you'd probably like these guys (though I didn't particularly care for them -- but then again, I've never really had much use for Pantera, either; this is from the rolling metal '07 thread btw):

Maylene and the Sons of Disaster: Good rustic thrash playing with plenty of boogiefied groove in it; invariably hard-to-take sore-throat yelling that at its *most* tolerable sounds like Alice in Chains or somebody, which means still pretty shitty (and kind of emo, even). More often the vocals are just ugly, which is a shame, since supposedly the album is a concept album about "the true tales of 1920s gangster Ma Barker and her prohibition era real-life crime family," not that you can tell, and sadly they don't cover "Ma Baker" by Boney M either. They list Willie Nelson among their influences, which is not remotely audible, but the Skynyrd influence might not be total bullshit (or at least less bullshit than in the case of Clutch, Pantera, Corrosion of Conformity, etc.), at least as far as the rhythm is concerned. Best track by far is a reasonably lovely guitar blues tapestry instrumental called "The Day Hell Broke Loose At Sicard Hollow." But Wino Weinrich's new band Hidden Hand does this backwoods kind of legend-of-wooley-swamp metal stuff a lot better on their new album, and Wino has a voice.

Another one I couldn't stomach, from rolling metal '05:

brand new sin, on century media -- muscleman lummoxes for people who think corrosion of conformity (maybe even pantera) are "southern rock." in fact COC get mentioned in the press kit, along with ac/dc and motorhead, the latter two of whom, despite some passable riffs, are bullshit. tough-guy-shtick vocals so constipated and oafish they make fireball ministry on their new album seem like fiber junkies in comparison. the problem with vocals like this is that they *drag the music down.* so any propulsion it might have otherwise have is lost. and the music isn't anywhere near hefty or swinging or boogieing or hookish enough to support the plodding.

Don't Stuck Mojo kind of fit in this category, too? And Superjoint Ritual (though maybe that's obvious, and I've never liked either of these much, either)?

Hatebreed?

Eyehategod

Don't Stuck Mojo kind of fit in this category, too?

Sometimes, when they let their love of fringe pro-wrestlers get too far forward in their style. However, to their credit, they put their money where their hobby was, hired Chris Jericho and changed their name to Fozzy. Fozzy was the hostile-but-really-manly-lummoxes-do-hookless-and-turgid power metal thing.

Stuck Mojo were often much better. One song, "Southern Pride," off Rising did really sound southern, angry and funky in the best ways of hard rock. And their first album, Snappin' Necks, pretty much fits the bill of angry groove all the way through. The not-very-eloquent rapper they had fronting the band doesn't get in the way nearly as much as you think he would.

After Pigwalk and Rising, both of which have great moments, they ran out of good ideas and grooves. Stuck Mojo, about the only band that fit the nu-metal genre that I could stand, probably because they were too early to reap the fruit of the subsequent mainstream surge.

Thought I saw a new album of theirs the other day, so they may have reformed after Century Media reissued all their old stuff last year.

Rollins Band? Maybe not heavy enough / too silly though.

Maybe Alex In NYC will be along in a minute

How can Slayer not be groovy, when Lombardo is the grooviest drummer metal has ever known?

But I sort of know what you're getting at. How about the Haunted? Or if you're in more of a d-beat mood, Disfear?

South of Heaven has an incredible groove.

Top choice:
Samael "Ceremony Of Opposites"
Second choice:
Gorgoroth "Under The Sign Of Hell" (proper smash up your living room music)
Also:
Sepultura from "Beneath The Remains" up to "Chaos AD"
Warpath "Massive"
Crowbar S/T
Fear Factory "Demanufacture"
Machine Head "Burn My Eyes"
Darkthrone "Panzerfaust" if only for "Quintessence"
Impaled Nazarene "Ugra Karma"
Megiddo "The Devil And The Whore" (esp "The Oath")
Mayhem "Wolf's Lair Abyss"
Entombed "Wolverine Blues"
And the ultimate dose of blind seething hatred: Anaal Nathrakh - The Codex Necro

Machine Head's The Blackening is pretty angry, too.

i was thinking codex necro also

Good call on the Machine Head. For a blatant, but rather fun Pantera rip-off, there's always the latest Throwdown.

check out Gaza, they are super-pissed although maybe they aren't groovy enough for you. in the vein of pig destroyer/botch

The Cavalera Conspiracy album is plenty pissed-off and has some great riffs 'n' rhythms.

Also, maybe you should try more NY hardcore - Sick Of It All and the like.

What is whingeing?
-- Bill Magill, Monday, 7 April 2008 16:44 (Yesterday) Link

It's something British.
-- xhuxk, Monday, 7 April 2008 16:45 (Yesterday) Link

The word is but the activity isn't especially.

Creep Diets by Fudge Tunnel is working :-)

Gojira

http://www.myspace.com/gojira

and Converge who just don't groove enough

you haven't been listening to converge closely enough.

otherwise, good call on 'ceremony of opposites', seigbran. that record has hooks and grooves all over the place, and is suitably angry. the opening track is a scorcher.

i might also recommend meshuggah. though a lot of people will tell you they can't hear the grooves. but on 'chaosphere' in particular, i can.