No Age: Nouns

holy shit is it coming soon then?

I'm seeing them in dublin and am so so so so excited!

I love this band, really really excited for the album...think it will leak soon??

one of my most anticipated of the year-- new song on their myspace is the jam. the acoustic guitar totally works

agreed. this band is incredible.

is this gonna be considered their first proper album? If so it's kind of a shame that it's gonna be on subpop

these guys suck

http://www.competitiveeaters.com/images/Burritochallenge-06.jpg

If so it's kind of a shame that it's gonna be on subpop.

Why?

album is AWESOME.

yeah wtf @ matrix. who cares

as long as the songs are as good as their previous material I'm gonna love it, but coming out on subpop gives them a level of attention/expectation and therefore gives the album a higher chance of either ending up watered down or seen as a disappointment or both...

excited. they don't suck. chaki likely has weird l.a. intel that has nothing to do with the tunes, which are awesome.

nah its from seeing them suck live a bunch and thinking their recordings are terrible.

Hey chaki, go back to joannie.

Okay, now I'm on chaki's side

listening now, not as much noise on this one...I wish the whole album sounded like "Sleeper Hold"

i want the whole album to sound like "neck escaper"

i haven't heard it yet tho

their noisy parts are really pretty so i'll be bummed if they kind eschew that, but i didn't nec like how weirdo rippers was split between songs/noise. if they can meld those together...

there are definitely a lot of songs on here..some of them are not very appealing to me right off the bat. but we'll see...

right now "Cappo," "Errand Boy" and "Brain Burner" are also real loud and awesome

I meant songs as in the "split between songs/noise"

there are two fully ambient tracks, other than that they're mostly relatively straightforward songs..."Eraser" is still great

if they can meld those together...

Yes, like some kind of fusion.

yes a fusion

yeah "Neck Escaper" was probably the closest they ever came

so hip.

but so good.

I meant songs as in the "split between songs/noise"

Dead Plane on Weirdo Rippers does this beautifully. This record's going to be great.

j0rdan whats the verdict

ha. i think it's awesome. better than weirdo. my fav is "cappo", the bliss out at the end is incredible. i don't have much else to say right now cuz i only listened like twice last night. the feedbacky bits are still really nice and sequenced well.

nothing on it comes close to "Everybody's Down" or "Every Artist"

i mean they've def 'evolved' into a straight-ahead punk band, the guitars are basically all riffs instead of like some of the songs on weirdo that had these really deliberate guitar plucks coming out of the feedback. i found those really powerful in some instances but i'm not mad at them just going all out from the jump on shit like "sleeper hold"

see idk-- i like "everybody's down" alot but it feels really compact to me as do a lot of the songs on weirdos. they just seem a lot more confident now, a lot more pummeling i think

Are the tracks from the vinyl eps that DIDN'T make it onto "Weirdo Rippers" cool?

I like "Every Artist Needs a Tragedy," because you get the noisy/glissy stuff, then it cracks into the riff right before the end.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yBiMt_n3Mb0

Now this is a great record! Holy mackerel, they are not fucking around.

They are not fucking around. I kind of liked this band last year and then they go and make the best album (so far) this year.

Yes.

It's so rare for a band to be able to do the Sonic Youth/Pavement/My Bloody Valentine noise + melody combo, but when it's done right it's pretty much the best sound there is. It is safe to say these guys do it right.

haha is that youtube link supposed to be an endorsement of no age?

ok I've come around and now love this as I should

I think "Cappo" did it

the "cappo" bliss out is the best part of any of their songs except for maybe the end of "sleeper hold"

I was really disappointed at first.....can't remember why

This is one of the best albums I've heard in years. I loved Weirdo Rippers but this is in another league entirely.

It reminds me of Pavement....Weirdo Rippers is their Perfect Sound Forever, and Nouns is their Slanted and Enchanted.

So, anyone going to see 'em Friday? They were sick last Saturday, so I missed 'em.

There's no denying this one. It's awesomely awesome.

So it's like pavement with...bliss outs.

It sounds fantastic.

I am going to listen to it tho.

the vocals are way harsher than pavement tho-- no real melodies and they're really really fuzzy

sheesh a bit defensive? everyone knows these guys are terrible. i need no ammo. also awesome quote by dean in the new SPIN. "I want to meet My Bloody Valentine and cook them curry and make them drink Komboucha."

-- chaki, Tuesday, 13 May 2008 00:17 (12 hours ago)

I'm just sayin'; you do an awful lot of research on a band you think stink! Clippings from Spin, the "MTV Newsroom"... are you keeping a slam book?

(don't get me wrong - I don't have HALF the megaboner for this band that people seem to be pitching; most of the gushing pieces have been genuinely ludicrous - but I don't think they're shit, either - they've got some fun fuckin' tunes!).

uggghhhhhhhhhh so now they're the vegan band on sub pop

i like to lol at their ridiculous music , quotes and fans.

...and diet

I don't really care how ridiculous their quotes are, or who their fanbase is, but I thought they were pretty good live and liked Weirdo Rippers or whatever. I have yet to really listen to the album, but you're not really putting up any sort of argument that goes anywhere, chaki. There are a lot of bands with obnoxious fans and band members who say stupid shit. Like, most of them.

im not putting up any argument cuz its music. if you like it cool! im just guna lol @ u.

that's cool

hey chaki, what are your favorite bands? I'm sure I can find a shitload of pull quotes that I can lol at too!

melvins and minutemen.

everything about the minutemen is awesome and inspiring and makes me glad to be alive.

Watt's a bit of a ball hog though.

melvins and minutemen.

-- chaki, Tuesday, 13 May 2008 21:53

From Metal Invader

M.I: In my info-searching orgy about MELVINS I read about the existence of "MELVINS super fans". I didn't really understand what the definition of a "MELVINS super fan" is. It's like having all things you guys ever released or is it something beyond commodity fetishism?

King Buzzo: I don't even really get what it is you are asking so I'll just say that a "MELVINS super fan" is someone who lets me rape their sister.

And believe it or not, I like The Melvins. Minutemen are just about the three nicest guys on the planet from what I know, so they get a pass. But that's like you asking me who my favorite band is and I respond with "Andrew W.K.," or someone else who is unbelievably affable.

The point is that if you want to find little details to lambast bands, you can find 'em for just about anyone that's done enough interviews that pop up in Google searches, especially punk bands or anyone putting out music, at any poin in the last ten years, on an independent label. You don't like No Age. Fine. But pulling out articles like those is predictable and tedious. It's redolent of hating something that the "Internet" likes and you don't, only because it's vaguely in your field of taste.

whats the difference of loling @ douchebag NoAge quotes about how awesome they are for being vegan and loling @ douchebag Mike Love quotes about how awesome he awesome he is because he meditates? are you like 14? calm down, beavis.

oops

NoAge quotes about how awesome they are for being vegan

But that's like you asking me who my favorite band is and I respond with "Andrew W.K.," or someone else who is unbelievably affable.

Andrew WK once did an instore autograph session where I worked, and followed it up with a 1.5 hour shit-a-thon in our bathroom. And I really had to go to the bathroom. Of all the ways for Andrew WK to piss me off, though, that's pretty lovable.

I just got in from watching No Age, and after Jay Reatard & Times New Viking they were kinda meh. I'll probably download this album anyway, but I don't really see what the fuss is about.

I like the new record.Stiil,I wish they meat.

eat meat.

whoa this album totally totally rules. everything that was annoying or generic about the EPs has really been cut away. nouns is as fun as their live show last year, which i really really loved.

dont care what they eat or what they say, theyre already on sub pop and from LA, so who cares if they get popular? pretty good situation all-around here...

Andrew WK once did an instore autograph session where I worked, and followed it up with a 1.5 hour shit-a-thon in our bathroom. And I really had to go to the bathroom. Of all the ways for Andrew WK to piss me off, though, that's pretty lovable.

-- Z S, Wednesday, 14 May 2008 23:29 (6 days ago) Bookmark Link

MASSIVE LULZ

whats the difference of loling @ douchebag NoAge quotes about how awesome they are for being vegan and loling @ douchebag Mike Love quotes about how awesome he awesome he is because he meditates? are you like 14? calm down, beavis.

-- chaki, Wednesday, 14 May 2008 22:12

x-post - totally forgot to respond to this.

The difference is that your loling at NoAge quotes coincides a little too well with the massive unwarranted backlash to the fact that Nouns is receiving accolades from music writers. That's a lot different than Mike Love quotes from thirty years ago. And frankly, your pull quotes are more risible because they're obviously fueled by your frustration as to why this band is the beneficiary of critical praise when it might just be because, hey, the album's fucking good.

It's one thing to have accurate, detailed, articulate criticism of a band, especially one that's three or four albums into their career. But what I find frustrating about the No Age criticism is that it seems to arise out of people being confounded as to why other people seem to love it and they don't, which ultimately is about taste. And the fact that the only argument against No Age (that I've read so far) is that, "It's not that good" is lazy and unproductive towards furthering any sort of discussion. So what if someone else's taste doesn't align with your own, and boo hoo if that falls on a number of people instead of just one. Why polemicize and go on some evangelical-type mission to bring an indie band down when they're, for all intensive purposes, releasing their first album?

Stiil,I wish they meat.

I saw them a couple of nights ago.

The stuff from Weirdo Rippers stands out a mile, the lo-fi studio experiments become brilliant performance gestures live. The hooks really hook.

The exception to this is Sleeper Hold.

It bothers me the politics of Pitchfork, I think Nouns is a good album, but not so remarkable that it would have gotten that score without the hype. Weirdo Rippers was remarkable enough, but I suppose it hadn't reached its fever pitch yet.

The waves of sound are surprisingly concrete, the way they stretch the songs is beautifully in control. They never really give in to any jamming instinct. It is gloriously uptight, yet all over the place.

Dublin "hipsters" are the worst in the world. They don't even know how to have good contrived haircuts and the girls in front of me with the fat asses couldn't dance for shit.

Okay, now I'm back on Chaki's side

just cuz everyone is no age cr8zy right now, i wanted to encourage everyone to get "erect the youth problem" by wives, which was the band these dudes were in before no age.

it's fucking great, listening to it right now, super spazzed out noise rock meets negative approach type wild n wooley hardcore.

soundz good. I've not been able to track it down yet tho...

Has anyone seen the video for Eraser. Really clever.

Would I like this?

I can't recommend anything to you anymore, chum, because I'm afraid you'll think either my ears or headphones are shite.

So much tinnyness you might not find it roomy enough. Still, nice guitar atmospherics and its as catchy as hepatitis.

Why not try watching this video on youtube for a taste

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n368OU17cz0

The fact that people keep describing it as lo-fi is a big plus sign for me, because that means it's probably not super smashed.

I think that's more because of how blurry it sounds but more the cheap transistor feedback that was all over Weirdo Rippers, which is way cooler if you're investigating.

playing for free in new york tomorrow

http://flavorpill.com/newyork/events/2008/7/11/river-to-river-presents-no-age-w-telepathe-and-abe-vigoda

I quite like this. But wtf is this thread about?!

It hasn't been 5 years yet, so I can still accurately call this my favorite album of the last 5 years.

I was thinking of polling this but I'm not sure if ILM ever loses its shit over No Age.

What happened to these guys? Are they done?

They're not done. just taking forever.

wow, was just rediscovering this record and Weirdo Rippers over the weekend. forgot how good "Brain Burner" and "Sleeper Hold" are especially. never checked out Everything in Between, any good?

Yea def. More of the same, I guess a bit weaker but still wonderful.

the combination of the metallic creaking noise and the two separate guitars (one being plucked kinda quietly and the other just accenting it) is killing me and then the piano comes in awwww man
― PoMXII

EIB has Fever Dreaming, one of their best songs.

EIB has cleaner, thinner production and it sounds kinda generic and much less lively than Nouns.
I hope it's just only a one-time slip.

on the other hand, Losing Feeling was awesome, maybe the best thing they did.
i hoped they would continue with that direction on EIB, so my disappointment became stronger.

I liked EIB way more than Nouns, though not as much as WR (which benefited from shockofthenew). All three are worth yr time though.

SO good live too (though most people I know HATE their shows - haha).

they were great live

Loved WR... then Nouns came out and I found it disappointing, maybe cuz I didn't know which direction they'd head in after WR?
Seemed like loads of possibilities, then... oh... it's just a really good record that sounds like them.

I think I got over that and just settled in to liking what they do by the time EIB came out.

saw them play a great show in the summer of 2008 at floristree in baltimore, i have that recording if anyone wants it. setlist:

Miner
Here Should Be My Home
Every Artist Needs a Tragedy
My Life's Alright Without You
Boy Void
Cappo
Teen Creeps
Dead Plane
Sleeper Hold
Eraser
Brain Burner
Neck Escaper
Ripped Knees
Male Masturbation [the Urinals cover]
Everybody's Down