What is indiepop?

For me indiepop as a genre is songwriting (often but not always imitative of 60s styles) centered on melody and generally in a diaristic, personally expressive mode. In terms of lyrics, indiepop values emotional honesty - the singing though generally avoids obvious cathartic techniques (eg screaming, hollering, etc.) In fact blues and rock inflections are usually absent: soul, funk and disco elements are even more usually absent. There is no particular privileging of the guitar as an instrument, though.

The relationship with the audience is a very close one - more like a folk-audience relationship than a pop/rock-audience relationship. This audience relationship, and a loyalty to the indiepop community, is seen as more important than technical ability or innovation in the music.

Too right. Jangly is the keyword. Generally sounds like pre-debut album Stone Roses. Think Bluetones. Think Dodgy. Think I Should Coco by Supergrass. Can be good fun if taken in small doses.

This appears to be what Marianna, anyway, is talking about when she says "indiepop" -- same, I think, for Electric Sound of Jim or Grayson Lane (or any of the people who actually listen to that stuff, obviously).

I don't really separate indiepop from indie rock, although I concede there may be a slight difference between Tiger Trap and Trail Of Dead. Although not so much of a gulf between Heavenly and Supergrass

These guys know what indiepop is.

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C86

PURE INDIE ROCK AND ROLL // the only midweek indie party worth giving a toss about. We play the finest grade A indie beats from dusk til dawn, if you have the attitude, we have the music.

***** MUSIC // INDIE MUSIC WE PLAY *****

Our resident DJs will be laying down the tunes, plus we have special guest DJs from your favourite breaking bands from around Brighton each week.

You can expect to get down to: The Smiths, Joy Division, Arctic Monkeys, The 1975, The Libertines, Oasis, Stone Roses, Happy Mondays, Peace, PIL, The Clash, Jesus and Mary Chain, The Jam, Jake Bugg, Blur, The Kills, The House of Love, Primal Scream, The Velvet Underground, Lou Reed, Iggy and The Stooges, David Bowie, Interpol, Tame Impala, Haim, The Heartbreaks, The Sleepwalks, The Crookes, Blondie, New Order, Ramones, Pixies, Ian Brown, Beady Eye, NGHFB, Sex Pistols, The La's, The Cribs, The White Stripes, Babyshambles, The Art Club, Splashh, Talking Heads, Arcade Fire, The Courteeners, Palma Violets, Morrisey, Kasabian, Eels, Pulp, The Cure, The Black Keys, Fleetwood Mac, MC5, The Replacements, Nirvana, Rolling Stones, The Charlatans, Ancient Times, The Pastels, The Whether Prophets, James, The Strokes, Black Rebel Motorcycle Club, The View, Echo and The Bunnymen, Jagwar Ma, Miles Kane, The Strypes, The Vaccines, MGMT, Ocean Colour Scene, The Verve, Bayy, Reverand And The Makers, The Enemy, The XX, Smashing Pumpkins, Yeah Yeah Yeahs, Yuck, The Zutons.

***** MUSIC // INDIE MUSIC WE DON'T PLAY *****

The Killers, Kings of Leon, Daft Punk, Mumford and Sons, Bloc Party, Muse, Bastille, Kaiser Chiefs, The Wombats, The Kooks, The Klaxons, Snow Patrol, Coldplay.

This is a very special kind of stupid.

"Ocean Colour Scene" yes "The Killers" no

£2 Red Stripe cans

yep

"The Courteeners" yes, "Bloc Party" no.

I mean really, I'm stuck at the very beginning. When I think of C86 I think of "PURE INDIE ROCK AND ROLL". When I think of C86 I think of "the finest grade A indie beats".

"You have the attitude, we have the music"

these dudes never heard C86 huh?

If you want a picture of the future, imagine the letters C86 stamped on a Pete Doherty's face -- forever.

god Jagerbombs are such a rip, "wooooh 2 quid for something i won't notice i've drunk"

Man, that's the LEAST offensive thing about this flyer (I like Jagerbombs).

lol a barman in a weird village pub once gave me a load of free jagerbombs like "this will fuck you up" I was like thanks 4 the sherbert can I have a drink now

i don't dislike them but i feel like they're a waste of drinking money

clearly it's the least offensive thing about any indie disco night

(not because i hate "indie" per se but indie discos are the fucking nadir)

it's a "party" playing jake bugg

at least they've had the courtesy to misspell Morrissey

tbh fuck you, kids who want to go and listen to the same fucking songs every week

kids who only wanna cop off to the strains of Kasabian

the dulcet strains of Gomez, get it right

tbf Gomez are largely above most of this lot in retrospect and that's damning

But they do play the, er, "Whether Prophets".

"I Almost Preyed"

do you really think this goes on from dusk till dawn

I can't think of anything worse

where is this thing

brighton!

I checked the source, these are among the things you could be doing instead:

Above Audio
Cottontail Club

Big band and jitter jive tunes
Date
Tue 19th Nov
Time
9pm
Price
Free Pubs
Blind Tiger
Out There
Date
Tue 19th Nov
Time
7pm
Price
£tbc Music
Brunswick
Jazz Jam

Open session with a house band and special guests
Date
Tue 19th Nov
Time
8pm
Price
Free Music
Chequers
Open Mic
Wolf William, Livvy Moore, Dirty Scavenger
Date
Tue 19th Nov
Time
8pm
Price
Free Music
Coalition
Faded

New R&B and hip hop night
Date
Tue 19th Nov
Time
11pm
Price
£4/2 Clubs
Corn Exchange
The Oska Bright Film Festival

International showcase of short films made by people with learning disabilities
Date
Tue 19th Nov
Time
tbc
Price
£12/3 Cinema
Cornerstone
Quiz Corner

Pub quiz
Date
Tue 19th Nov
Time
7.30pm
Price
£tbc Pubs
Digital
CU Next Tuesday

4 a gr8t nite of R&B + d1sc0
Date
Tue 19th Nov
Time
11pm
Price
£4/3 Clubs
Duke Of Norfolk
Open Mic
Date
Tue 19th Nov
Time
9pm
Price
Free Music
Duke's @ Komedia
Mister John
Date
Tue 19th Nov
Time
6.30pm
Price
£tbc Cinema
Fabrica
In Transition

Showcase of short films
Date
Tue 19th Nov
Time
7pm
Price
Free Cinema
Fiddler's Elbow
Quiz Night
Date
Tue 19th Nov
Time
8pm
Price
Free Pubs
Fountain Head
Student Night

DJs play indie and rock
Date
Tue 19th Nov
Time
8pm
Price
Free Pubs
Funfair
Branded
Date
Tue 19th Nov
Time
10pm
Price
£3/free Clubs
Gladstone
Quiz Night
Date
Tue 19th Nov
Time
8.30pm
Price
£1 Pubs
Globe
Basement Cinema

Underground films, comfy seats and free popcorn
Date
Tue 19th Nov
Time
8pm
Price
Free Cinema
Green Door Store
Sweet Baboo, Paper Hawk

Indie folk
Date
Tue 19th Nov
Time
7.30pm
Price
£7 Music
Buy Tickets
Green Door Store
Donuts

Hipster funk and hip hop gems
Date
Tue 19th Nov
Time
11pm
Price
Free Clubs
Hampton
Comedy Hamster

Stand-up night hosted by Johnny Wardlow
Date
Tue 19th Nov
Time
8pm
Price
Free Comedy
Haunt
Dilated Peoples & Brother Ali

Live music
Date
Tue 19th Nov
Time
7pm
Price
£15 Music
Hope
Brighton SOURCE Music Quiz

Brighton’s best music quiz hosted by Brighton’s best music mag (downstairs)
Date
Tue 19th Nov
Time
8pm
Price
£1 Pubs
Komedia
Jason Isbell & Amanda Shires

Live music
Date
Tue 19th Nov
Time
7.30pm
Price
£12 Music
Latest Music Bar
Cafe Scientifique

Let’s talk about science, baby
Date
Tue 19th Nov
Time
7.30pm
Price
Free Culture
Mesmerist
Pollito Boogaloo

Live music
Date
Tue 19th Nov
Time
9pm
Price
Free Music
Nightingale Theatre
Rebelling Against Limit

A ‘lecture concert’ by Jonathan Burrows and Matteo Fargion
Date
Tue 19th Nov
Time
8pm
Price
£10/8 Culture
Prince Albert
Vile Imbeciles

Live music
Date
Tue 19th Nov
Time
8pm
Price
£4 Music
Quadrant
Open Mic

Jam session hosted by Jenna Bennett
Date
Tue 19th Nov
Time
8.30pm
Price
Free Music
Ranelagh
Will Johns Jam

Live music
Date
Tue 19th Nov
Time
8.30pm
Price
Free Music
Riki Tik
Reggae Tunesdays

Vinyl-only DJs play Jamaican ska, dancehall tunes hip hop remixes
Date
Tue 19th Nov
Time
10pm
Price
Free Pubs
Shooshh
Pachanga

Latino party playing reggaeton, merengue and ragga etc
Date
Tue 19th Nov
Time
10.30pm
Price
£3/free Clubs
Sidewinder
Open Mic Night
Date
Tue 19th Nov
Time
8.30pm
Price
Free Music
St George's Inn
Pub Quiz
Date
Tue 19th Nov
Time
8pm
Price
£1 Pubs
Theatre Royal
Kindertransport

A play about the British mission that rescued thousands of Jewish children from Germany in the build-up to WW2
Date
Tue 19th Nov
Time
7.45pm
Price
£11.90-32.40 Culture
Thomas Kemp
Poker Evening
Date
Tue 19th Nov
Time
8pm
Price
Free Pubs
Three & Ten
Whitehawk Inn Wordsmiths

Stories, poetry and spoken word
Date
Tue 19th Nov
Time
7pm
Price
£5/4 Culture
Wah Kiki
Ooh La La
Date
Tue 19th Nov
Time
10.30pm
Price
£3/2 Clubs
White Rabbit
Matt Rose & The Tin Cup Collective

Live funk soul band
Date
Tue 19th Nov
Time
8.30pm
Price
Free

bands

white people

DJs play indie and rock

But these guys told me they were the only indie disco in town. HOW COULD THEY LIE TO ME?

pachanga looks promising but I don't recall "shooshh" being one of the good places

tempting as it is to clown the misappropriation of shambling 80s indie feeb esthetics in the service of a 2000s landfill indie & classixxx night, i'm not sure what is to be gained from clowning something the venerable indie disco institution in general, given that they exist solely to help 19yr olds getting off with each other and make jake bugg fans older than 19 wish they had stayed at home insufflating soda crystals

something

also every music related 'what is' question makes me think of LFO

So is nobody else perturbed by the fact that these people clearly don't even understand what they're talking about? It's like advertising a night of gabba and then playing 2 Unlimited or something.

But yeah, NV is right that the mainstream indie disco is a long long long running tradition, and not something I would want to see completely burned to the ground.

A play about the British mission that rescued thousands of Jewish children from Germany in the build-up to WW2
Date
Tue 19th Nov
Time
7.45pm
Price
£11.90-32.40 Culture

if u think abt it, indie discos are the kindertransports of the modern age, taking the persecuted youth of the suburbs and provinces into their bosom and nurturing them with the sweet pablum of ian brown and the long blondes

Our wonderful friends Ancient Times have a new single out! Check it!

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^___^

(I saw that band play recently, they were hyped up as being post-punk wunderkinder... they sounded like the Smiths)

(But eh... they weren't bad enough to completely mock, I don't think. Just... straight down the line middling.)

I went to what was billed as a traditional landfill indie disco in Camden not too long ago and it turned out to be two guys from The Maccabees playing jackin house records all night. I think that as long as the ratio of 19 yr-old girls to lads with the top button of their shirts done up is maintained effectively, you might as well be playing Heino for all anyone cares.

that begs the question, why were you there?

"NGHFB" is definitely the worst thing about that flyer

Xp, I have a friend in a Czech indie-pop group and they were playing at a showcase event at the same venue beforehand.

ha, good answer

"Reverend and the Makers." This is something that's happening in 2013?

Funny to see this thread pop up, as my bandmate told me I was too twee to date her friend just a couple of hours ago. (Admittedly, I was wearing a Talulah Gosh t-shirt, so he probably had a point.)

Ugh, sorry about the mixed-up pronouns, meant "She probably..."

I think the people behind that night's sole awareness of "C86" is in terms of "a tape of NME-endorsed indie" so in their minds they're right on the button atm with that playlist..