Fleetwood Mac Say You Will Poll

Hint: NOT SILVER GIRL

I'm leaning towards "Bleed To Love Her" at the moment but there are so many great songs to choose from.

this is difficult

i need time to think on this, but it will be one of thrown down, running through the garden, or red rover

The first three songs are the album's weakest.

"Thrown Down," "Say You Will," or "Bleed To Love Her." The latter has some truly awe-inspiring high notes (and ghosted McVie backing vocals).

I really like "Come" and I suspect I am alone. I reckon "Everybody Finds Out" is seriously underrated. The last two songs are great too, and "Running" is seriously one of Stevie's best. Weirdly back-loaded album, too, first three songs aren't great, "Miranda" is jaunty but slight, "Say You Will" they coulda knocled out in their sleep, but my god, the second half is GREAT.

Oh OK, "Running Through The Garden" it is.

"Goodbye Baby" is probably my favorite Buckingham-Nicks era album closer.

Red Rover

OMG. I had no idea this album even existed until this very moment! Which is VERY odd cuz I've spent lots of time with their Allmusic discography. I'm assuming from the comments here that this is better than Time (a root canal is probably better than Time).

It's a great album even if it is effectively Buckingham-Nicks 2. I think it probably suffered critically and commercially at the time for lack of reassuring Christine McVie input.

Is it one CD or two?

One, but it's as long as Tusk.

I find myself skipping around a lot, though.

Of the first three songs I think only "What's The World Coming To" is relatively weak, and I love "Illume" - although yeah it's not one of the best Stevie songs here (but "Silver Girl" is by far the worst). "Murrow Turning Over In His Grave" is insane and weirdly compelling.

Also I love how the production can sound both classicist and unhinged. "Red Rover" is astonishing for this in particular.

The quality of Stevie's work is what really astonishes, I think. She was the weak link on Tango In The Night I reckon - imagine how much better that album would have been if her three songs had been "Thrown Down", "Everybody Finds Out" (which even sounds a bit Tango-ish) and "Goodbye Baby"? Okay, I know some of you love love love "Seven Wonders" but come on...

It does suffer from lack of Christine. Not bad though.

I so want to get this album but don't. Does anyone know what Fleetwood/Buckingham album Somebody's gonna Change your Mind is on? I'd vote for that if it were here.

That's on the unreleased Gift Of Screws if memory serves, much of which turned up on Say You Will without any audible change. My favorite track from GoS is the title track, which is a really weird setting of part of an Emily Dickenstone poem with a very driving power-pop tune.

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i went for running through the garden in the end.. it's like edge of seventeen, but older

speaking of which, I wish "Everybody Finds Out" was better than it is; it's 20 years from being a sequel to "If Anyone Falls" or "Stand Back."

"Bleed To Love Her." I enjoyed seeing Lindsey perform it on his "Under The Skin" tour.

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I'm rediscovering this album and its is actually pretty great

Buckingham whispering "together together together" beneath his guitar on "Thrown Down" = CHILLS

^^^^^

Love this album so much.

Illume (9-11)

Odd to see this thread revived today - I was making up a Fleetwood Mac best of for my car yesterday and put 'Say You Will' and 'Everybody Finds Out' on there. They weren't sounding too good tbh, very harsh production next to everything else. And far too loud.

But more important
Night by night
She watched it all come in to play

thrown down ;_;

like a barricade ;_;

Maybe now he can prove to her ;_;

that he could be good for her ;_;
and they should be together (together together together) ;_;

Faith is a hard thing to hold on to
Something inside you says I don't have to

Listening to "Destiny Rules" now, I wonder if it's about her affair with Tusk engineer Hernan Rojas, (described in the book Get Tusked) with whom she went to Chile for awhile.

"Silver Girl" is by far the worst

I like it better than "Silver Springs"!

Best Lindsey - "Peacekeeper"
Best Stevie - "Everybody Finds Out"

This is their joint best album with Tusk

And yes Thrown Down is clearly perfection even though the track I listen to the most is Smile at You (which taught me that maybe I don't really have a problem with Stevie's voice when she goes all big and husky after all)

The important thing is that apparently most of the songs Nicks wrote fresh for the album; they weren't part of her stash (like "Running Through the Garden" and "Goodbye Baby" (which I like!).

Lindsey's harmonies on the Stevie songs...!

severely underappreciated album.

thrown down!!!! like a barricade!!!!!

Every time this thread is revived I feel an immediate and irresistible compulsion to listen to the entire album again

Feel like "Steal Your Heart Away" might be an underrated track on this. I just love:

The light was creeping
Down, down, down
While we were sleeping
Suddenly we hit the ground

It's definitely a really wild sounding record.

xp as soon as i saw this thread appear it was to jump on and praise "steal your heart away". the lyrical economy and the usual buckingham guitar masterclass go a long way. sneakily great fleetwood mac record.

The chorus of "Bleed to Love Her"! McVie's harmonies on it!

Actual best song of all time

So does that make "Bleed to Love Her" and "Steal Your Heart Away" the final two Fleetwood Mac songs with all five of the famous lineup on it?

seems like it

christine does some uncredited work on "red rover" but i'm pretty sure stevie isn't on that one at all

impossible to believe a song like "come" exists on a fleetwood mac album

Murrow turning over in his grave Murrow turning over in his grave Murrow turning over in his grave Murrow turning over in his graveMurrow turning over in his grave Murrow turning over in his grave

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XDjmrv-AxR0

i rewatched destiny rules last night!!! great documentary about ppl who are a nightmare to be in a creative enterprise with

great documentary about ppl who are a nightmare to be in a creative enterprisewith

The whole doc is underrated/underseen rock doc gold. My fave scene comes around the 22 minute mark, when Lindsey and Mick are talking, and Mick is trying to convince Bucky to edit the album into something more commercial, and Bucky totally passive aggressively goes, "well, OK, you can do that, and I'll fully support it, but if you do that I am going to take 3/4 of my songs back and release them as a solo album, since I own the masters." And Mick just goes silent.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v0Mw0LudFm4

lindsay especially a nightmare tbh. sort of a clueless narcissistic passive aggression to nearly all of his arguments. the whole back and forth about whether this would be a double album was pretty hilarious, especially since it was lindsay who ultimately relented based on some weird touring logistics i failed to understand

tfw you cause the other member of the band to marshal her legal team because you cannot deal with the completely reasonable requests of your potential album mixer such as "which songs are you putting on the album and in what order"

I know the scene gets talked about a lot, but when Nick defends her right to mix verb tenses like Dylan does it's the way Buckingham's, like, chewing gum nonchalantly like a psycho killer L.A. guru that's chilling.

also just wanted to say that all of stevie's songs on this record are so inspired, especially the really new stuff she came up with like "illume"

That's because she brought a spirit catcher with her to the sessions.

the "thrown down" argument... idk why but the first time i saw it, it was like i understood absolutely everything about these two egos that had been dancing around each other for decades. lindsay's suggestion is stupid, because it's a song not a term paper, and also part of what makes "thrown down" really thrilling IS the tense shifts between each verse, it's like you swim from outside of these characters into each of their perspectives, but also stevie's reply ("you wouldn't say that to bob dylan") is like... soooo full of it (but she is the best lyricist in the band, so i'll give it to her)

i keep misspelling lindsey today because i hung out with my friend lindsay yesterday

Lindsay You Will

it's like you swim from outside of these characters into each of their perspectives,

yeah, this – it's what she brings to the band as a writer. When Buckingham goes aqueous on the production choices (Tusk, Tango in the Night) it complements those songs.

i know i've been talking mad shit about lindsey but i would like to say that gift of screws is just as good as this album

That's the one he cannibalized for this one, right?

I loved watching him break things down here:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HCGKFY9NBZY