What is the best *CLOSING* track in New Order's studio album discography?

hah. "leave me alone", without having to think for a second. although PCL is far from my favourite NO album.

actually, these are all fucking great songs. even "working overtime".

leave me alone just edges dream attack

Fuck no, "Dream Attack".

In general, they're better at ending an album than opening one.

my problem with "dream attack" is that it's almost totally eclipsed by "vanishing point" before it. i didn't even notice it the first few times i heard this album, because i was sitting there stunned.

In general, they're better at ending an album than opening one

yeh, i couldn't really rank these at all. "avalanche" is far too sweet and brittle a confection to work in the way i imagine it could have done, but that doesn't mean i don't adore it.

"Face Up" for me.

Although I love "Every Little Counts" too... yeah yeah the *CUETEST* closing New Order song... ....TIHSYLOHGMO?NOGNIOGS'tahw&^&(**(!

Actually, I love "Run Wild" too. Fuck. Grimly OTM.

Leave Me Alone vs. Face Up FITE! Wait! Oh no...Run Wild is here. Oh for the love of Christ, kill me now. Please kill me now. The choice cannot possibly be made.

But...but...Every Little Counts! aggggggh This poll is tragedy, I say. I living tragedy of ILM. Won't anyone vote for that one? PLEASE?

I did lol

"Leave Me Alone", not so much as a closing track but as (one of) the very best New Order tracks in any place on the album.

I love "Dream Attack"

Dream Attack is one of my favorite NO songs. The fact it closes my favorite album of theirs is just gravy.

"Leave Me Alone" is easily the most gorgeous song off Power, Corruption & Lies. But I gotta go with "Face Up" as it brings to a close my vote for the greatest album ever made.

What band was better than this band? None? Ok, that's what I thought.

And "Face Up!" Oooh so deliciously narsty, esp. given the album cover (and the video for "The Perfect Kiss").

Wait, who is better than this band?

I just remembered that the one time I saw them back in 1989 they opened the set with a huge, aggro version of "Dream Attack." Hell of a start.

The Cure is better than New Order. Ditto Siouxsie & the Banshees.

Dream Attack for me. Easier than the opener poll.

Don't sniff at "Run Wild," which ends with their most characteristic couplet, "I'm gonna live till I die/I'm gonna live to get high."

So, there's one more set of tracks to come, right?

I love every song on this list to bits. I'm stuck between "Face Up" and "Dream Attack," but will go with the former for its doomy synth and programmed drum clatter, Bernard's gulped vocals, and that fantastic Hook bassline.

WILL THE BAND REMASTER THESE ALBUMS ALREADY???

Steven Morris says that re issues and bonus tracks are on the way - and the remaining 7 songs from the WFTSC sessions are coming out too - 'twas on Teletext a few weeks back

Yeah, I saw that, forgot where till you said.

dream attack by miles and miles.

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For once, I don't have think about this: Dream Attack!!!

WILL THE BAND REMASTER THESE ALBUMS ALREADY???

that could be interesting. two sets of remasters: hooky's and barney/stephen's. heh.

i thought that turned out to be a bullshit story

WILL THE BAND REMASTER THESE ALBUMS ALREADY???

The Joy Division remasters were in the form of 2 CD deluxe edition with lots of bonus stuff and extensive liner notes. It is not unthinkable that the same thing will be done regarding New Order's back catalogue.

"Dream Attack."

Tough choice, but went for "Face up".

Too difficult - I cannot vote. Denial is the worst track here but after that...

Automatic thread bump. This poll is closing tomorrow.

"Leave Me Alone" is my favorite by far. Maybe it's just nostalgia, but to my ears their guitar sound was never as perfect as on that album.

I voted for "Leave Me Alone", even though it broke my heart to do so. I really wanted to go for "Run Wild" cause I know it won't get as many votes, and well..."Face Up" is another whole heap of guilt. Sigh. But I had to choose one.

WILL THE NEW ORDER GODS EVER FORGIVE ME???

Grimly! Back me up here.

Don't even get me started on the live versions.

"Leave Me Alone", no contest.

New Order's habit of going OMGWTFLOL for their album closing tracks (Working Overtime, Every Little Counts, etc.) is one of the more annoying things about them. Therefore New Order Closing Tracks > New Order Opening Tracks arguments are crazy talk.

"Face Up" sucks a huge amount of shit.

Oh how I cannot bear the thought of you.

lol

Dan and I have a long standing fued about which version of "Subculture" is the best. I say the Low-Life version. He says I'm crazy as fuck and reps for the single version.

Totally "Every Little Counts" - That record skip at the end ... coming right after Bernard's maudlin broken-hearted meanderings as his grasp on life slips ... chilling stuff

Tell Dan that the Low-Life version is as magical as "Domino Dancing."

That's 100% correct.

the vocal and lyrics on face up are aggravating but i love all the sounds. dream attack over all.

aggravating more than usual i mean

n that new order like disco lady for dance club kids

would rather hear rap singers!!!!!

but gay is ok at least u don't swing my girl and have smashnosed!

"Dream Attack" has some of my favorite Sumner singing; the man sounds in awe of a love capable of such a night of awesome humping.

single version of subculture is more danceable and smoother. i prefer to listen to the lowlife version though, it's JAUNTIER!

I get Dan's complaints about how amateurish Barney's singing is, but it helps the song -- I imagine this swinger of average looks in bad sneakers convincing himself he's gonna get laid tonight.

oh god it's Every Little Counts isn't it. damn. no revote

I think I've heard "Face Up" in its entirety once.

(btw I was referring to the original "Subculture")

I'm not as opposed to the original "Subculture" as I used to be but "Face Up" can still fuck right off.

Automatic thread bump. This poll's results are now in.

Well then.

as the vinyl has no Side 1 or Side 2 (or any i can remember seeing anyway) i've always thought that PC&L starts with "Your Silent Face" and ends with "586". it seems so wrong the other way!

those who voted for "avalanche" and "denial": i salute you. "denial" would probably have been my second choice.

surprised by this result, but pleasantly so: didn't realise so many other people loved "leave me alone". and thought "dream attack" would romp it.

as the vinyl has no Side 1 or Side 2

eh? there's always an A or a B in the run-out groove, dude :)

Nice battle this one.

Alfred, you are a trip with these song interpretations.

didn't realise so many other people loved "leave me alone"

it's the same problem we're gonna have when the Cure poll results are in: the songs from Disintegration are gonna win cause the album's the most widely heard in their discography. here, the casual New Order fan just has Power Corruption & Lies, so the opening and closing tracks win the polls.

heheheh. as someone who voted for both AoC and LMA, and for plainsong on the cure openers poll, i feel i should articulate a counter-argument.

but nah, you could be right :)

the counter argument is that those albums are the most widely heard because they are the bands' best efforts. which means, the opening and closing tracks on their best albums would be likely to win anyway, had everyone heard every album.

Very surprised by the result and I'm thinking stephen is correct to a degree.

"Leave Me Alone" is gorgeous. I don't mind "Dream Attack" losing to it.

I wish at least one person had voted for "Working Overtime".

Who else voted for Denial then?

Had I seen this poll I would have picked Dream Attack, and it would have been a tie.

Let's have a second round!

the casual New Order fan just has Power Corruption & Lies

Nah. When I was growing up, New Order seemed a band who didn't have a single canonical "best album", and then Technique came out I loved it and over time, found other people did too. After Substance or the Best Of, I'd have thought Technique, if anything, would be the next one people get. P,C&L might be up there too, but it's in no way a walkover that would skew a poll.

[we need a Casual New Order fans: which one album do you own? poll]

There are no casual NO fans

the counter argument is that those albums are the most widely heard because they are the bands' best efforts. which means, the opening and closing tracks on their best albums would be likely to win anyway, had everyone heard every album.

No, the counterargument is that "Leave Me Alone" and "Age of Consent" >>>> everything else on PC&L, and so those tracks stick out more compared to more uniformly great albums like "Technique".

You forgot "Your Silent Face"

"Your Silent Face" is even better than "Leave Me Alone" and "Age of Consent". The majesty of its opening synth melody has been much imitated by other groups, but never matched.