Best Track Title on Trojan Dub Boxsets

WAR IN A SOUTH AFRICAN (VERSION)?

BUCK ROGERS IN THE BLACK HOLE vs. THE DEATH OF MR SPOCK

Having the Buck Rogers one come up on my ipod prompted this.

What's it the dub of?

12. EMBARASSMENT - Gregory Isaacs All Stars

12. THE SON OF DARHT VADAR - Roots Radics Band

i own both of these and my favorite is "I TRIM THE BARBER"

i mean, musically that's the best track

FLASH GORDON MEETS LUKE SKY WALKER

All the "Barber" tracks are great.

I don't have either of these collections (although I suspect I've heard a bunch of these tracks by different names) but I will totally rep for the Gregory Isaacs dubs on here.

I don't know what it's a dub of. The lyrics are "you want a night loving...you really need night loving..."
Agreed on the Barber, er, cuts.

I voted "The Alien Aborts" btw, cause it sounds like a lost Bradbury novella. Or a sci-fi corollary to The Dude Abides.

INTERNATIONAL PUM PUM

]11	Storming The Death Star	Scientist & Prince Jammy	Big Ship: Freddie McGregor

12	Mission Impossible	Scientist & Prince Jammy	Sweet Lady: Freddie Mcgregor

13	The Alien Aborts	Scientist & Prince Jammy	Roots Man Skanking: Freddie Mcgregor

14	Buck Rogers In The Black Hole	Scientist & Prince Jammy	You're Young: Linval Thompson

15	The Death Of Mr. Spock	Scientist & Prince Jammy	Baby Mother: Linval Thompson

16	The Princess Takes Her Revenge	Scientist & Prince Jammy	Round The World: Wayne Wade

17	The Crushing Of The Stormtroop	Scientist & Prince Jammy	Death In The Arena: Soul Vendors / King Of The Arena: Johnny Clarke

18	Flash Gordon Meets Luke Skywalker	Scientist & Prince Jammy	Skillful Man: Linval Thompson

19	The Son Of Darth Vader	Scientist & Prince Jammy	

20	C-3po + R2-D2 = The Force	Scientist & Prince Jammy	Rob And Gone: Barrington Levy

awesome. where'd you find that?

http://www.algoriddim.com/ <<< good site

box 1 http://www.algoriddim.com/album.php?album_id=1903

box 2 http://www.algoriddim.com/album.php?album_id=1904

thank god for obsessive types

Are there two volumes of these? I've only got the first one. All the Gregory Isaacs dubs are really good, don't know who did them. REBEL DANCE, DUBBIN AND WAILIN are great. And Upsetters, of course.

DUB DAT - The Upsetters

tru dat

Oh I misunderstood the premise of the thread (xp). I'm aware that a lot of people who buy dub don't listen to it.

What do they do with it, then?

Try to impress girls with them

It's more:

"Oh I've heard this dub stuff's supposed to be good... oh that's quite cheap... and it's a boxset... I'll have that then... nah, don't like this stuff much."

i just skimmed through all these tracks, and the best dubs (ie best engineered, not necessarily the best riddim) are all the ones credited to Roots Radics Band. All sound like Scientist dubs, to my ears.

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Roots Radics + Scientist + Junjo circa 80-82 should be considered a subgenre of reggae/dub.

"All the Gregory Isaacs dubs are really good, don't know who did them."

Jammy did Slum in Dub stuff, I believe.

"i just skimmed through all these tracks, and the best dubs (ie best engineered, not necessarily the best riddim) are all the ones credited to Roots Radics Band."

What do you mean by engineer(ed)? Best effects? Or best sound?

8. DUBBING SANDRA - The Upsetters

sounds like a romantic comedy

http://www.algoriddim.com/ <<< good site

EXCELLENT site

i think half of the tracks in these boxes are by the roots radics

also i'm pretty sure the best tracks are the king tubby dubs. case in point: "tubby's conversation".

who are "the jahlights"? their track is EPIC.

both, alex! catch-all term for anything that was done to the original track.

I don't know anything or care about dub but I like these box sets a whole lot

Roots Radics + Scientist + Junjo circa 80-82 should be considered a subgenre of reggae/dub.

dancehall?

i never bought these sets cuz i thought they overlapped too much with other cds i had but looking at the tracklists now i think i've been wrong

No you were right. A lot of these mis-named versions of other stuff you probably have (according to Steve Barker of the Wire anyway.)

8. DOCTOR SEATON IN THE ECHO CHAMBER - Rupie Edwards All Stars

^is this the same track as this doctor seaton from a tubby comp.

It's like one of the other boxes, has a version of "Come Together" with the writer credit as "Unknown"...

that era and some of those recordings are early dancehall style but the sound to me is more of a bare bass + drum sound. i don't think of them as dancehall at all but they def. have a distinct sound unlike any other combination.

"i don't think of them as dancehall at all"

You are alone then. For everyone else the rise of the Roots Radics = dancehall.

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People voting on the tracks themselves methinks.

yeah, alex and am0n, i know i'm alone in my opinion. part of the problem is I don't have much knowledge of dancehall. listening to Johnny Osborne - Fally Lover feels like i'm listening to reggae and not dancehall.

can you illustrate the differences between an early Dancehall and roots reggae? By early dancehall i guess i mean the sound you attributed to Roots Radics circa 80-82.

i think that junjo/radics sound IS what separates dancehall from reggae but also the singing/deejaying/singjaying. i think the confusion comes more from the term "dancehall" getting broadly applied to later eras without differenting them as digital, ragga, one-drop, whatever

http://www.scenariorecords.com/_productImages/thumbNail_3560.jpg

*differentiating

greensleeves gets it right, they call their 79-82 anthems comp. dancehall but all their other comps are ragga/ragga dancehall

i didn't vote btw. did anyone compare that doctor seaton?

That album being a George Formby tribute?

what?

ah, that would make sense. i'm listening to Ranking Dread - In Dub right now and i see this LP is classified as both Dancehall and Dub so i'm trying to get to the bottom of what makes this Dancehall musically. Is it simply the focus on the bass and drums? from what i can tell the common thread in this dancehall sound is the sparse instrumentation accenting the bass and drums.

http://www.roots-archives.com/release/771

A) Sparse production (so yes focus on d'n'b, lack of horns, etc.)

B) Complete dearth of new riddims (almost everything is a re-version of a classic Studio One/Treasure Isle riddim)

C) Shift away from rasta themes (not completely, but enough)

D) Cocaine

Also it's not like there was some BAM okay now roots is over thing and dancehall begins cut off or anything. Plenty of guys (esp. Osbourne, Minott) who had begun to thrive at the end of the 70s straddle both eras.

the dub rarities box is really good

want to change my vote for favorite track title to WHAT IS CATTY?