Mystifying: how has Morrissey become unable to approximate a tune?

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New song: "All you need is me":

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ElemRKA9r1c

Along with his perpetually neither here nor there band, and some pretty bad lyrics, this is just as tuneless and plain bad as "Far off places."

Was "Quarry" a late career fluke? Cos that excepted, this'll be his 4th clanger on the trot.

paulhw, Tuesday, 3 June 2008 22:52 (seventeen years ago)

Maybe three songs off the last disc were pretty good to v. good.

Daniel, Esq., Tuesday, 3 June 2008 23:56 (seventeen years ago)

by the looks of the video he chooses his band members based on muscles and packet size. i'd probably do the same in his position.

jed_, Wednesday, 4 June 2008 00:31 (sixteen years ago)

Morrissey has been doing this kind of stump singing for his entire career. The results are great quite often, but if his collaborator gives him a bland backing track, it's going to come out sounding like a bland Morrissey track. The problem is that he needs space to move around in the music & overcompressed chugalug indie ain't gonna provide.

Curt1s Stephens, Wednesday, 4 June 2008 00:57 (sixteen years ago)

I do love that he's taken on such a grandfatherly appearance in his middle age

Curt1s Stephens, Wednesday, 4 June 2008 00:59 (sixteen years ago)

whoa i had no idea this was out

weird you say that crut cuz the first impression i had was that he looks way more like young-solo-moz than ive seen him lately

but as you say this could be a song on any one of his albums. but then i loved 'far off places' & i dont think YATQ was all that great

deeznuts, Wednesday, 4 June 2008 01:16 (sixteen years ago)

I thought this song was off of a greatest hits release or something...

brightscreamer, Wednesday, 4 June 2008 01:28 (sixteen years ago)

Yeah, it is. Morrissey: Greatest Hits, 2008 Decca Music Group Limited.

So it doesn't count against him. Right?

brightscreamer, Wednesday, 4 June 2008 01:41 (sixteen years ago)

Morrissey has been doing this kind of stump singing for his entire career. The results are great quite often, but if his collaborator gives him a bland backing track, it's going to come out sounding like a bland Morrissey track. The problem is that he needs space to move around in the music & overcompressed chugalug indie ain't gonna provide.

OTM, lock thread

J0hn D., Wednesday, 4 June 2008 01:43 (sixteen years ago)

Well, I agree, but I'm also talking about how his newer songs often have no actual catchy melody (hi Geir!). This wasn't something I often thought about most songs on the first 4 or 5 albums / compilations.

paulhw, Wednesday, 4 June 2008 02:17 (sixteen years ago)

"First of the Gang to Die" was plenty catchy - so was "Irish Blood, English Heart" - his hit/miss ratio isn't as high as it used to be but I really think it's all about who he's working with: Morrissey does one thing, and it involves playing off clever collaborators. He started with a very high standard, and with somebody with whom he had great creative rapport.

J0hn D., Wednesday, 4 June 2008 03:23 (sixteen years ago)

John OTM. "First of the Gang to Die" did the trick, but too often the plodding indie-rock of the last four albums doesn't give him enough room to vocally embellish tracks.

Alfred, Lord Sotosyn, Wednesday, 4 June 2008 03:31 (sixteen years ago)

yeah these are great points from all of you -- FOTGTD is a classic as far as im concerned -- its also the only song that comes to mind of his past 2 albums as a genuinely catchy genuinely great pop song

its weird that as much as i love marr & favor the smiths over moz solo ive never really thought of moz as dependant on his collaborators but i think thats probably largely true, his best songs really are sung over his best instrumental tracks

deeznuts, Wednesday, 4 June 2008 03:34 (sixteen years ago)

o yeah & also i like southpaw grammar but i think ive mentioned that before

fake edit: ok just here POLL: Southpaw Grammar

deeznuts, Wednesday, 4 June 2008 03:40 (sixteen years ago)

Yeah, it's impossible to separate Moz's "compellingness" from the competence of his lead guitarists.

Alfred, Lord Sotosyn, Wednesday, 4 June 2008 13:46 (sixteen years ago)


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