fox news: white liberals :: southern rap : ny rap fans, says the dude who wrote that lil wayne/zac efron story that did not bring the lulz

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http://music.clevescene.com/2008-05-28/music/southern-hip-hop-fox-news-what-s-the-difference-both-appeal-to-red-staters-and-both-are-unfairly-maligned

Eric B. & Rakim's "Follow the Leader" is a genuine classic, but can you really imagine a club full of anyone but ironic hipsters busting a move to it?

The same is true of the majority of old Snoop Dogg, Warren G., 2Pac, and Notorious B.I.G. tracks, which tend to be more conducive to blazing a blunt with your homeys than packing a club.

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J0rdan S., Thursday, 5 June 2008 05:13 (seventeen years ago)

I hate to take the bait and be the guy who actually cares about the article but,

He's arguing the fox news is good because it's populist? There's something very confusing about that. A) Should a news network be populist? and B) Aren't they just populist because they are able to mold public opinion? Oh and one of the guys on Fox news brings an "infectious energy" to the table.

On the hip hop front again I hate to point out the obvious but is there really a feud at all between the south and the other coasts? Isn't Lil Wayne the lyricist everyone's been going apeshit over recently? And which MC from the East Coast has been so concerned with lyrics recently? Jay Z and Nas and the Wu Tang Clan who are all at least 10 years old? Was it not the east coast that gave us Lean Back and marble mouthed 50 cent?

filthy dylan, Thursday, 5 June 2008 05:49 (seventeen years ago)

ny dudes actually really hate the south but the prose and points are horrifying

J0rdan S., Thursday, 5 June 2008 05:52 (seventeen years ago)

ny dudes actually really hate the south

being general here and basing this off of blog comments i don't actually know "ny dudes"

J0rdan S., Thursday, 5 June 2008 05:53 (seventeen years ago)

ny strawdudes

The Reverend, Thursday, 5 June 2008 06:41 (seventeen years ago)

southern rap is like fox news only if southern rap is full of cranky old guys with erectile and urinary dysfunctions. (going by the ads, anyway.) when webbie does a spot for flomax, i'll believe it.

tipsy mothra, Thursday, 5 June 2008 07:04 (seventeen years ago)

i-n-d-e-PEE-n-d-e-n-t

tipsy mothra, Thursday, 5 June 2008 07:05 (seventeen years ago)

Fox also has measured, insightful hosts like Brit Hume and Chris Wallace.

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J0rdan S., Thursday, 5 June 2008 07:14 (seventeen years ago)

ok so in between Dom posting the british versions of these articles and you posting the american ones I just figured out why ILM sucks in summer 2008

feel free to post snoop-shake again

El Tomboto, Thursday, 5 June 2008 08:08 (seventeen years ago)

sorry I'm tired and cranky and can't sleep

still bullshit repost though

El Tomboto, Thursday, 5 June 2008 08:09 (seventeen years ago)

this thread was made mostly for ringtone ppl to lol at, not really to be a groundbreaking thread or anything where we all lament the fact that shitty writers with challenging opinions work for city alt-weeklies

J0rdan S., Thursday, 5 June 2008 08:11 (seventeen years ago)

since when do you ever post to lim anyway

J0rdan S., Thursday, 5 June 2008 08:11 (seventeen years ago)

and anyway ilm's been the same as it's always been since it turned into from a music critic board into an internet board

"old school" ilm threads this year like the no age one have been unbearable anyway thx to burt_stanton types

old ilm aint ever coming back

J0rdan S., Thursday, 5 June 2008 08:13 (seventeen years ago)

why dont u respond to the email i sent you instead

J0rdan S., Thursday, 5 June 2008 08:14 (seventeen years ago)

Take perky Fox Report host Shepard Smith — perhaps the Soulja Boy of news anchors — who doesn't really seem like he could hold an intelligent conversation on, say, Russian politics. Plus, he appears to wear eyeliner. But, we would argue, the more you watch him, the more you can't help but appreciate his silliness and infectious energy. Eventually, you wonder what was so great about Brian Williams in the first place.

and what, Thursday, 5 June 2008 14:59 (seventeen years ago)

KRANK DAT !!!!!!!!

jhøshea, Thursday, 5 June 2008 15:20 (seventeen years ago)

this is a good thread

deej, Thursday, 5 June 2008 15:33 (seventeen years ago)

who is the charlie rose of rap?

Kerm, Thursday, 5 June 2008 15:38 (seventeen years ago)

http://z.about.com/d/rap/1/0/B/D/-/-/CommonFindingForever.jpg
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deej, Thursday, 5 June 2008 15:40 (seventeen years ago)

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am0n, Thursday, 5 June 2008 15:46 (seventeen years ago)

southern rap is like fox news only if southern rap is full of cranky old guys with erectile and urinary dysfunctions.

that's not a nice thing to say about Shawty Lo

Curt1s Stephens, Thursday, 5 June 2008 20:22 (seventeen years ago)

I would enjoy it a lot if shep said YAHHH at people

El Tomboto, Thursday, 5 June 2008 22:57 (seventeen years ago)

Who was it that did the ridiculous piece the other day talking about how the South is dead now and the new center of gravity is Chicago "thanks to avant-garde MCs like Lupe Fiasco and Rhymefest."

Passion of the Weiss, I think?

BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Friday, 6 June 2008 00:14 (seventeen years ago)

pretty much only white liberals ever call things they like "avant-garde" so there you go. I think for the rest of the world it remains something close to an epithet or at least damning with very faint praise

El Tomboto, Friday, 6 June 2008 00:16 (seventeen years ago)

Ahhhh of course it was DocZeus.

BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Friday, 6 June 2008 00:30 (seventeen years ago)

ha this dude has a blog

J0rdan S., Friday, 6 June 2008 00:31 (seventeen years ago)

i thought he was just some dude that commented on every post of every rap blog i read

J0rdan S., Friday, 6 June 2008 00:31 (seventeen years ago)

In ten years, when music historians are looking back at this particular period in hip hop's history. I have a feeling that we will be calling this period "the Hip Hop Is Dead Era."

yeah dude is a fruitfly w/an ego

BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Friday, 6 June 2008 00:32 (seventeen years ago)

sign o the times there

J0rdan S., Friday, 6 June 2008 00:33 (seventeen years ago)

Like

Record companies fearing the worst began signing artists who were virtual clones of the few success stories they had and accordingly, the music got stale and processed.

doggie are you not aware that your daddy made this argument about marvin gaye

BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Friday, 6 June 2008 00:34 (seventeen years ago)

stuntin like his daddy

also that record companies signing clones applies to rick ross yes but also 98 degrees and like fucking morningwood so

J0rdan S., Friday, 6 June 2008 00:35 (seventeen years ago)

daddy listened to david allen coe

El Tomboto, Friday, 6 June 2008 00:36 (seventeen years ago)

Exactly xp

BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Friday, 6 June 2008 00:37 (seventeen years ago)

They like to point to point out artists like Z-Ro, Killer Mike, Andre 3000, and others as prove that the South is deep. There is a partial truth in that statement but let's be real for a second, the South was not promoting or supporting these artists at nearly the rate they supported the coke-obsessed ignorant quotient of their artists. For better or worse, Young Jeezy is ten times as a big a star as Killer Mike and if artists like Killer Mike were the true face of the South, they would've sold more and been on television as ubiquitously as Mike Jones and Paul Wall. If you are going to present the likes of the Ying Yang Twins, Dem Franchise Boyz, and D4L as the face of your movement than you should prepared for people to stereotype your entire region's musical movement as a bunch of ignorant, gangsta grilled minstrels.

Yes only Southern apologists are buying Jeezy records, and Southern apologists who are pointing to Killer Mike et al are also presenting D4L as the vanguard of hip-hop.

BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Friday, 6 June 2008 00:40 (seventeen years ago)

hoos let's be real for a second though

J0rdan S., Friday, 6 June 2008 00:40 (seventeen years ago)

yeah if killer mike had made a single half as good and/or promotable as "laffy taffy", "my hood" or "lean wit it" im pretty sure a major might've thrown some money behind him

J0rdan S., Friday, 6 June 2008 00:43 (seventeen years ago)

That's what I'm sayin: D4L put out good pop music, so they get the label engine behind them. Killer Mike (say) puts out hardcore rap music which has always been harder to promote and sell. Yell GOLDEN AGE all you want, but Wu-Tang never had the same first week sales as Miley Cyrus, so it's a little disingenuous to say Killer Mike's relative mid-level success is some kind of indictment of the hypocrisy of Southern rap fans.

BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Friday, 6 June 2008 00:49 (seventeen years ago)

Killer Mike is perfectly capable of making great pop singles or at least was five years ago.

The Reverend, Friday, 6 June 2008 09:33 (seventeen years ago)


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