Brian Jones Presents The Pipes of Pan at Jajouka / Joujouka - C/D?

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Do you rate? If so, for cultural impact or listenability? And how much credit do you give Brian Jones?

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roxymuzak, Thursday, 5 June 2008 19:08 (seventeen years ago)

seek ye: Brain Jones' Visit to Jajouka is described by Brion Gysin to Genesis P-Orridge in Paris on the GODSTAR: Thee Director's Cut reish cd. In short, Jones' amorality wrt Joujouka is blessing/curse.
As for me, I dig the gonzo artifact of the phasing on side 2, but perhaps better documents of Joujouka exist ... like Laswell-recorded Apocalypse Across the Sky.

sexyDancer, Thursday, 5 June 2008 19:23 (seventeen years ago)

overrated. the laswell one and the ones on sub rosa are much better

am0n, Thursday, 5 June 2008 19:50 (seventeen years ago)

http://www.posteverything.com/2005/06/13/10549/sr97_328.jpg

probably repeating myself from other threads but THIS^^^^^^^^^

am0n, Thursday, 5 June 2008 19:53 (seventeen years ago)

I really, really like the phasing. I really appreciate Brian Jones, and I like how fucked up he was all the time, and how he added a little bit of that flavor to his ethnomusicological experiemtn. Never heard any other Jojouka recordings. A+

people explosion, Thursday, 5 June 2008 19:57 (seventeen years ago)

not strictly Joujouk, but the Pharoah Sanders collabo with Sufi musicians Trance of Seven Colors is up there with the GREATS OF MUSIC.

sexyDancer, Thursday, 5 June 2008 20:00 (seventeen years ago)

cultural impact-wise as a historical document the jones one is cool. when i heard other recordings i realized the phasing was totally unnecessary and maybe even detracts

not heard the sanders one but i really hated other collabs i've heard (ornette coleman, talvin singh)

am0n, Thursday, 5 June 2008 20:07 (seventeen years ago)

ornette plays over, pharoah plays with

sexyDancer, Thursday, 5 June 2008 20:13 (seventeen years ago)

the Brian Jones one is the only one (I've heard) that captures that field recording ambience, as if you're overhearing something that's more than a performance. even though it's probably the one that has the most severe post-production collage & layering (that phasing effect was laid on everything pretty hard but it sounds so so so mad)

Laswell one is good, he cuts them into varied shorter songs, but has a good ear for it. I remember not liking the one on Real World, just never caught fire? I like the Sub Rosa one amon linked to -- Sub Rosa put out a new one in 2006 I want to hear: http://joujouka.net/4Store/26/buy-an-advance-copy-of-the-new-boujeloud-cd

when you record music that doesn't want to be recorded, using lo-fi equipment is like you're meeting it halfway -- 'Chechen Zikr 1' mp3

Milton Parker, Thursday, 5 June 2008 21:50 (seventeen years ago)

there this too http://www.mysticfire.com/ntsc/76936/76936.html?cart=1126 but i think they might be a different sect

am0n, Thursday, 5 June 2008 22:07 (seventeen years ago)

whole CD as good as that clip?

'cause that's a good clip

Milton Parker, Thursday, 5 June 2008 22:17 (seventeen years ago)

I like this album a lot

Tom D., Friday, 6 June 2008 09:16 (seventeen years ago)

whole CD as good as that clip?

from what i can remember yes. i don't have a copy anymore

am0n, Friday, 6 June 2008 15:19 (seventeen years ago)

seven months pass...

Master Musicians of Jajouka are playing UCLA on the 6th. Should I grab tickets for this?

Chris Barrus (Elvis Telecom), Sunday, 1 February 2009 08:16 (sixteen years ago)

Fuck yeah, why not?

Ned Raggett, Sunday, 1 February 2009 09:25 (sixteen years ago)

They're coming to DC as well (as part of "Arabesque" Feb. 23 to March 15 festival of Arabic and Middle Eastern and Islamic music)

curmudgeon, Wednesday, 11 February 2009 13:20 (sixteen years ago)

FEB 11 Yoshi’s San Francisco, CA Yoshi’s
FEB 12 Yoshi’s San Francisco, CA Yoshi’s
FEB 14 Amoeba Records** San Francisco, CA Amoeba Records
FEB 17 Neumo’s Seattle, WA Neumo’s
FEB 19 Portland Jazz Festival – Roseland Theater* Portland, OR Roseland Theater
FEB 25 Kennedy Center Arabesque Festival Washington D.C. Kennedy Center
FEB 28 The Knitting Factory New York, NY The Knitting Factory

Those of us in flyover land are screwed, as always.

To the topic, the Brian Jones album really is as neccessary a part of an ethnomusical collection as the Colin Turnbull pygmy recordings. They highlight the influence of the observer/recordist, and preceded just about anything else from Morocco (though I haven't been into the Folkways vault). I happen to like them too, not my preferred Jajouka (that would be the Laswell recorded Apocalypse Across the Sky, which should be canonical for its appropriate application of subtle reverb to correct dry close-recorded digital), but the phasing isn't antithetical to the source material.

derelict, Wednesday, 11 February 2009 20:07 (sixteen years ago)

I only heard this for the first time in the last year or two (this summer, I think, but this year is getting jumbled in memory) and I love it. I somehow expected that the added studio stuff would turn me off, but it didn't. In fact, it was less omnipresent than expected.

They should come to Albuquerque, they would like it here.

How much credit?

_Rockist__Scientist_, Wednesday, 11 February 2009 23:34 (sixteen years ago)

Going to try to make it to the free Amoeba show on Saturday.

Alex in SF, Wednesday, 11 February 2009 23:36 (sixteen years ago)

Did you see them. They're appearing for a charge tonight/Wednesday at the Kennedy Center in DC as part of the Arabesque Fest. I saw 'em do 1 long song Monday night as part of a special Arabesque preview night thing for invited guests and press. 4 guys on oboe-like squeeky "ghaita" horns and 4 percussionists making quite a din. Later the group's leader did a solo number on his "ghaita" that had a bit of melody and was quite nice also.

curmudgeon, Wednesday, 25 February 2009 13:11 (sixteen years ago)

omg how did I miss all these bay area performances?

akm, Wednesday, 25 February 2009 14:36 (sixteen years ago)

six years pass...

new one is blowing my mind:

Recorded live in Joujouka in 2012, Into The Ahl Srif is the first new album of Joujouka material available on vinyl since 1976. Focusing on the trance-inducing ghiata music of the rites of Boujeloud, Into The Ahl Srif eschews the highly edited, special effects approach of Brian Jones Presents The Pipes Of Pan At Joujouka in favor of a raw, untampered transmission. Although preserving the full 90-minute fertility ritual in uninterrupted form would be impossible on any physical sound medium, this LP takes a more thorough look than ever before at this most cacophonous, droning, and deeply psychedelic side of Joujouka's music.

Mordy, Tuesday, 26 May 2015 10:25 (ten years ago)

Your Eyes Are Like A Cup Of Tea is a great title in itself. I think it was a good track but I haven't listened to it in a while. Must dig out the cd if I've still got it.

Stevolende, Tuesday, 26 May 2015 18:32 (ten years ago)


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