i forgot about MTV! do you ever think about MTV? when was the last time you watched MTV?

I think you're still kinda drunk.

hungover...

when was the last time you watched mtv mr.snrub?

A few kids I work with watch MTV on every break. I HAVE SEEN SO MUCH VIVA TEQUILA AND LET ME TELL YOU IT STOPS BEING QUAINTLY LOL AFTER ABOUT ONE MINUTE

Side note, I know a girl who was on Next.

I haven't seen it for over ten years, the last time I saw it, there was an episode of Yo! MTV raps and it was being presented by Run DMC, so that's a good long time ago. I never think about it at all, I can't remember the last time it even crossed my mind TBH.

Do people still expound upon the poisonous influence of MTV like they used to? (Or maybe "they" just = Jello Biafra and the Replacements and I'm just projecting this somehow??) I feel like no one cares about MTV though I'm thinking it might just be the company I keep.

my son likes pop music videos and watches the top 20 countdown every weekend -- on VH-1. he seems aware of MTV as some kind of brand-name but never watches it.

last time I watched MTV was over my 13 y.o. niece's shoulder. some kinda reality show about models. yuk.

to be honest I never cared for MTV, watched it the first few years w/professional interest I guess. this is is an age thing, if I'd been a teenager in the 80s instead of in my 20s no doubt MTV would've been formative.

I only see MTV in the middle of the night, what's it like during prime viewing hours? Is it really just reality / dating shows? I remember it was getting terrible around the time I graduated high school (98/99) and I get the notion that it's only gotten worse.

The Hills has more viewers than any MTV production ever. Which is kind of depressing because I wanted MTV to slide into total irrelevance and obscurity, and it certainly seemed to be head there 3 or 4 years ago. But then came The Hills. Which is kinda brilliant!!

headed

I googled The Hills and the "review" diverted into speculation of sex tapes within three sentences. Pretty impressive.

i have to tell you i think i'm ready to love The Hills

i know.

(this won't be no ordinary love)

The Hills is about the only programme worth watching on television.

I read the Rolling Stone article about The Hills and thought I remembered the article saying it was the most successful Mtv show ever, but I just tried to verify this on the internets and apparently it's only the most successful show since Real World XIV: San Diego! My bad.

It's such a simple formula: Reality X typical serial production-values = hit. Well, it's sort of a guided/molded reality in this case.

I'm too old to watch MTV.

also there's just a lot of blond, skinniness happening

If it isn't it should be.

that lauren, she looks good.

I love how teen vogue were obviously starting to see her as fashion poison.

Whenever I get bored enough to try any of the cable music channels - and that's pretty bored - I'm amazed by the limited range of vids on offer, and just how old most of it seems. There's a Faith No More one which seems to have been on regularly since I first got cable in the nineties.

I'm too old to watch MTV, too, I guess. But even a few years ago, it was filled up with bad, seedy reality and game shows. It had totally lost the homemade charm and inventive spirit that made it so signficant for me in the early 1980s (and I'm really not one of those "everything's gone to hell/times were so much better when I was a kid" types).

we live in a world of another mtv entirely...

I still click over to MTV on a fairly regular basis but they're never playing a video so I click away just as quickly, to MTV2 (which plays about 2 percent more videos than the parent channel) or VH1 (which at least has the aforementioned Top 20, and they play videos in the morning while I'm eating breakfast and getting ready to go to work). I usually wind up watching the Latin music video channel, mun2 (I don't get MTV Tr3s with my current non-premium cable), which plays lots of norteño/Tejano/ranchero videos in the mornings. No better way to start the day than dudes in cowboy hats playing accordions.

I don't even have cable! (At home, the only TV I really watch is Netflix.) But I've probably watched a minute or two of MTV in a hotel room in the past few years. Mostly in hotels, though, I just get addicted to catching up with country videos on CMT. And last time there was an okay Def Leppard video special on VH-1. But MTV never seems to grab me.

in a way, i guess, mtv's work is done. they successfully made everything else in the world look like mtv so even if you aren't watching mtv you kinda are watching mtv. kinda. wow, that was cosmic.

Well, it's sort of a guided/molded reality in this case.

Isn't it the case in most reality tv?

The dating shows especially.

Wait, come to think of it, I have watched Beauty And The Geek in hotel rooms in the past couple years!! That's on MTV, right? So there you go.

i don't think beauty and the geek is on mtv. it's on whatever the wb is now. i think.

Oh yeah, I guess you're right:

Hosted by MTV's Bryan McFayden, Beauty and the Geek inaugurated its first WB season on June 1, 2005.

But I was close! Honestly, in the rare moments I do watch TV, I'm not really paying much attention to what channel is on. I just sort of flip around and see what comes up.

Oh, I take it all back. MTV has Date My Mom AND Pimp My Ride.

Stay classy, MTV!

in a way, i guess, mtv's work is done. they successfully made everything else in the world look like mtv so even if you aren't watching mtv you kinda are watching mtv. kinda. wow, that was cosmic.

^^good point. I haven't watched in years, but I assume it's still an endless parade of 'reality' shows, dating shows, OC-ish soaps? Obviously these things sell ads like crazy. While I realize the format was kind of always in flux, it just seems weird to me that it in no way resembles it's initial raison d'etre. Liek maybe they could have branched out with other channels for the current fare.

OTOH, I suppose using the time-tested flagship channel for the advert dollar magnets makes good business sense. LEt special interests, say music for example, be relegated to the MTV2/ whatever ghetto.

this is why I could never succeed in the bizness world.

Haven't watched MTV since 1996. I think Youtube and other video sites have superseded it as the place to watch music videos, partly because of technology, but mostly because MTV don't play much music any more.

i just got the new rolling stone in the mail with the people from the hills on the cover.

the headline is "the truth about the hills. OMG do they totally hate each other?"....yeah, what does that have to do with music?. anyway, they all look like girls that would never date me.

mtv and mtv2 both suck. there's a third one now (I think it's called mtv hits) that actually rolls with video playlists with limited commercials so if I'm like "hmm I'd like to hear the new Rick Ross or Rihanna maybe something good's on" I'll flip it on for a bit. I don't have a car / never listen to the radio so I never hear the big pop songs except at the gym or something. or at the corner store if they're listening to Hot 97.

OTOH, I suppose using the time-tested flagship channel for the advert dollar magnets makes good business sense. LEt special interests, say music for example, be relegated to the MTV2/ whatever ghetto.

unfortunately it only took like a year before mtv2 was taken over by reruns of Real World Road Rules Challenge: Inferno Part 12

It's weird to think there was a time when MTV2 played like ... Smiths videos and shit. and when MTV played music videos. That was when VH1 was the corny "adult contemporary" music channel.

That was when VH1 was the corny "adult contemporary" music channel.

What is it now?

It's weird to think there was a time when . . . MTV played music videos

Easy, sonny.

Do pop musicians today still make music videos? Why?

youtube

2000-2001, used to watch Undressed and Cribs all the time, flip over to MTV2 to see At The Drive-In played constantly, flip to VH1 for Dido's "Thank You" every 15 minutes.

I think New Orleans was the last Real World I paid any attention to.

undressed was great. you could always tell when they were about to go to a commercial break. it would be like "i'm a premature ejaculator" "Oh no" *surpised face*, cut to commercial.

i just got the new rolling stone in the mail with the people from the hills on the cover.

the headline is "the truth about the hills. OMG do they totally hate each other?"....yeah, what does that have to do with music?. anyway, they all look like girls that would never date me.

-- Creeztophair, Saturday, June 7, 2008 6:07 PM (3 hours ago) Bookmark Link

haha

undressed WAS great. especially when they did the marathons.

youtube kind of makes mtv irrelevant, doesnt it? more or less?

VH1 was "adult contemporary" as in, the only stuff they played was like, Kenny G and Sade videos.

youtube kind of makes mtv irrelevant, doesnt it? more or less?

Not necessarily. YouTube has the content, but not the charm of old MTV. I guess most of you wouldn't think that the Vee-Jays that began the MTV era were part of the appeal, but for me, they were. They seemed to have a lot invested in the enterprise, it all seemed new and cutting-edge, and they brought a fresh-faced, relaxed attitude toward it that made the channel so appealing. You can't get that on YouTube. Maybe on something like Pitchfork.tv (tho I don't think that will capture what made MTV so special in the early eighties), but not on YouTube.

lol I'm old.

mtv's old ads, that they would play right before a show would come back on, were priceless

xp Now I get the idea that VH1 is basically the hair-metal nostalgia channel! (They've put out a bunch of aging hair-metal guys' albums on their VH1 Classics label, even.) Which, obviously, was the music that MTV spent most of its time on two decades ago. (So I guess aging '80s MTV fans are VH1's target audience.)

I thought the "hair-metal" revival channel was VH-1 Classics.

So I guess aging '80s MTV fans are VH1's target audience.

omg. it's true.

(Except in select cases like Bon Jovi, of course, where CMT is now the hair-metal nostalgia channel.)

Wait, VH1 and VH1 Classics are two different channels? (Shows what I know. Like I said, I don't even have cable.)

I watch VH-1 Classics when I visit my parents; it's how I catch up on Survivor and Robyn Hitchcock videos.

VH1 Classics is pretty shitty now... it's mostly just crappy movies and reality shows they play on regular VH1.

90s MTV wasn't that bad, though. Beavis and Butthead, Downtown, Daria, the Maxx (I couldn't get into it), Liquid Television. I never watched MTV Beach House (with Pauly Shore!!!!!), but for some reason it was always on in the background.

I watch VH-1 Classics when I visit my parents

lol I old lol.

I haven't watched it in years and years but apparently Headbanger's Ball has now spun the Danava video 4 weeks in a row. That's so crazy to me.

guys you need to watch Metal Menia. It's on tonight on teh Classic.

I was watching "Run's House" on MTV within the past year or so. That's a reality show with Reverend Run and his kids. I don't think DMC has ever guested on it. It's kinda funny.

Also MTV within the past year would have videos on between 6 and 8 a.m. Eastern time and I'd have it on in the background while getting ready for work. Vampire Weekend, Usher, Keysia Cole...This recently stopped for the most part. VH1 shows mostly terrible Daughtry and Buckcherry and Nickelback power ballads at that same time in the morning plus Death Cab for Cutie indie-pop, Amy Winehouse and all those other new Brit women singers who sound like Amy Winehouse---Duffy and I forget the names of the others.

I wish my cable plan included Mun2 like Unperson's. I wanna see some reggaeton videos.

Yea I can go on the computer in the other room and watch youtube but it's not the same

VH1 Classic would be the best channel on TV if they'd run actual episodes of Headbanger's Ball and 120 Minutes, instead of just giving the title to new blocks of programming.

, but for some reason it was always on in the background.

This is the difference between youtube and MTV, innit? There's was a communal aspect to it - everyone in school watched the Music Video Awards the night before, or all the nerds were into Daria, the nascent Pitchforkers could talk about 120 Minutes, everyone agreed it kind of sucked but it was the background to a lot of teenage lives. (Maybe college too, but I dunno)

Now you've got youtube and you might watch it with someone else in the room, or you might send a link to a few people, but it's limited to that.

Daria is the greatest thing to come out of Mtv.

Whoa. Just found out about Austin Stories. I used to live in Chip's apartment complex!

I watched MTV Jams and a little bit of MTV Hits last night. It's probably been 2-3 years since I tuned into MTV proper.

Oh, I guess my old roomie liked to watch Run's House sometimes, but I never really payed attention for more than a couple minutes at a time.

youtube >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>MTV

The shift towards non-music programming was to address the problem that advertisers were unconvinced that viewers weren't flipping away for commercials, if I recall. Though as teen in the 80s I would sit through a solid hour of Billy Ocean and Glenn Frey videos 'cause I'd heard they'd played a Killing Joke video the previous week.

Amp, or Amped or what ever that middle-of-the-night 90s electronica show was called... that's the last bit of MTV programming that felt like it was exploring new music, rather than scheduling payola.

More than music, even, what seems to have vanished from MTV-associated product is the sense of being kingmakers. Though I'm sure ample backscratching was always involved, there were times MTV could break left field acts that didn't fit radio formats. That's what made it seem sorta hip for a decade or two. The bits of music programming that remain on MTV networks are like an endcap at Best Buy, now.

I wouldn't know what an endcap is if I didn't work marketing for consumer electronics

This is the difference between youtube and MTV, innit? There's was a communal aspect to it - everyone in school watched the Music Video Awards the night before, or all the nerds were into Daria, the nascent Pitchforkers could talk about 120 Minutes, everyone agreed it kind of sucked but it was the background to a lot of teenage lives. (Maybe college too, but I dunno)

but i think youtube is totally communal! everyone shares videos, everyones seen the same big ones. you can talk about youtube videos in high school as well as you could talk about mtv

http://www.mtv-chilloutzone.com/watchthevideos.htm ^^