What is some recent music with drum breaks?

That's because recent rock music sucks.

Snrub otm.

are you looking for only rock with that sound ?

The Budos Band?

And is there rock music anymore? That's the most damning thing I can say about it, really.

Yeah if we are going w Budos Band I would say this:

http://www.myspace.com/whoisclutchyhopkins

I don't think retro-fetishists who worked backward from hiphop to funk obscurities should count here.

Just threw it out there. I dunno how much "cool" music has been done with drumkits, as opposed to machines, lately. Read "cool" as listenable or whatever else you like.

Also, re Budos Band: Ouch.

I actually like the Budos Band, but the point stands.

I dunno how much "cool" music has been done with drumkits, as opposed to machines, lately. Read "cool" as listenable or whatever else you like.

-- If Timi Yuro would be still alive, most other singers could shut up, Saturday, June 7, 2008 10:18 PM (Saturday, June 7, 2008 10:18 PM) Bookmark Link

This is the exact point where the query hits a wall.

LOL @ THIS THREAD

I mean I just wanna C&P something in italics over and over again but I'm having to choose one from about 10 thoroughly worthwhile candidates

I think this is a worthwhile point. In the days before drum machines and programmed beats a drum break of 2 or 4 bars somewhere in the middle of the song (or as an intro, right at the start) was a handy song arrangement device. Speaking from experience if you were stuck for something else you could always say, 'let's start with the drums', or 'let's break it down to the drums for 4 bars', assuming they sounded cool enough in their own right.

There is plenty of music still being made with drum kits (whether it's good or not is another matter) but I can't remember the last time I heard a drum intro or break (not that I listen to a lot of music) so it would appear it's a device that has been largely discarded. But why?

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I think "not that I listen to a lot of music" is perhaps leading narrowly from "I dunno how much "cool" music has been done with drumkits, as opposed to machines, lately" as things stand.

That's perfectly possible but could you link to a few examples that would disprove the point?

Leading as in horse-race, dude. I'm not trying to make a semantic point, I'm clowning.

There is plenty of music still being made with drum kits (whether it's good or not is another matter) but I can't remember the last time I heard a drum intro or break...so it would appear it's a device that has been largely discarded. But why?

this is what i was trying to ask in the original post, and as The Reverend pointed out the question excludes retro-fetishists (like Jamie Lidell, Sharon Jones, Amy Winehouse etc.)

Radiohead has some good drum intros/breaks, the intro to Reckoner and Arpeggi (which also has a break to great effect) for example but no other bands are coming to mind

THIS IS BECAUSE YOU HAVE NOT LISTENED TO ENOUGH MUSIC

EITHER THAT OR YOU HAVE RADIOHEAD DEAFNESS WHICH MEANS YOU ONLY LISTEN OUT FOR ATTRACTIVE AURAL FEATURES IN THE MOST POPULAR AND CANONICAL RECORDS

FUCK THIS IS THE WORST THREAD ON ILM

Shut up dude.

I'd have imagined one of you corny indie fuxx might have at least heard some Beta Band.

Keep digging, Louis.

Haha, OK you've clearly not been reading your Indie Bible. Sort it out pronto, eh lads?

In all seriousness the closed-mindedness and one-eyed idiocy on display here is astounding. I would trawl through my post-2000 iTunes collection, which probably represents roughly 1/400th of the music released since then at the very most, but such an exercise would be pointless because anything I suggested wouldn't be "cool" or "listenable" enough on account of not being Radiohead or whatever. Sorry to be an asshole but you're all completely deserving of it and my goodwill will be bestowed when or if you accept that I regard a lot of the things other people have written here to be fucking ridiculous, even risible.

fall out boy. they're drummer is real good.

Put up (some breakheats) or shut up. The thread is in answer to a question.

xpost

Louis, you might want to figure out who you're ranting at before you accuse them of being Radiohead-loving indie fuxx.

The nu-teenpop crowd?

No.

RadiOHead good but itis a little wierd sometime

The most talented and thus currently unemployed jazz drummers in America?

Well, there you go.

Alright, now that you've calmed down a bit, please post whatever good drum-breaky music you've been listening to.

Crazy thought I know, but most of the good drum breaks I'm hearing these days are in really hard rock/metal/hardcore or what have you.

Very well, although now I know who I'm talking to, I can also draw your attention to absurd absolutist statements made in this thread. Or, hey, is there a thread any more? That's the most damning thing I can say about it.

Aha! Mackro has uncorked an absolute fuckload of music I don't think even occurred to most of the OPs.

I think the people making the absolutist statements were aware of their absurdity.

There are good drum breaks everywhere today too, but I guess the question is: how many isolated "When The Levee Breaks" style drum breaks are there today? Rock music in general fills up a lot more space in a song than it did in the 60s and 70s due to recording technology allowing greater ease in overdubbing and adding texture and so forth, so anything that's, say, sample-able today would have a bunch of other noise, good or bad, happening over the drum breaks.

Maybe that's the crux of the point? I'll shut up if I'm wrong.

Also, today's music isn't 'old enough' to sample, and so far neither is the 90s rock pantheon -- yet.

Well I was about to ask what was meant by a "drum break" before proceeding to my big futile list. Does it have to use five different tom sounds and a cowbell or can it just be a big rock intro?

xxp: That's probably true, but there's really no difference between the intentional use of negative space in 1968 and 2008.

LJ, use your own discretion.

i love the drums on the last giant brain album. good if you like that trans am/krautrock/battles kinda thing:

http://www.myspace.com/thegiantbrain

listen to "americaner"

Yeah, also are we just doing intros or can the break be at any point in the song?

Also, today's music isn't 'old enough' to sample, and so far neither is the 90s rock pantheon -- yet.

-- Mackro Mackro, Sunday, June 8, 2008 2:39 PM (Sunday, June 8, 2008 2:39 PM) Bookmark Link

I think this is a red herring. Lots of people. today and in the past, have sampled relatively recent music.

xp: any point, dude

Scott: nice

I think this is a red herring. Lots of people. today and in the past, have sampled relatively recent music.

True, but not so much in the context of drum breaks. Back in the late 80s, people were crazy-ready to sample whatever was the newest, hence all the Public Enemy sampling in 1988 to 1990, as well as acid-house sampling even in rock music... also, in hip hop especially, sampling has never really stopped refining and tightening the practice, although the practice itself was muted a bit after 1991, due to lawsuits and what not.

But today? I dunno, for better or worse, the whole culture of unmining lost old gems thanks to the internet, file sharing, and tons of reissues has really stressed romanticizing sampling THEE OLD AND OBSKURE more than ever before. This isn't a bad thing, it's just the way things are today. Shrug.

I was about to say re: scott's tip. Broadcast! Surely, there's a Can inspiration, but it's not really straight-up recycling per se. Broadcast's drummer is a monster.

OK, first basic example that came to mind was The Fiery Furnaces' "Chris Michaels" but I have about 50 more lined up. Oh wait, the song "Uncle Charlie" off their new album begins with a TWENTY-SECOND drum break. Eat that. :D

But today? I dunno, for better or worse, the whole culture of unmining lost old gems thanks to the internet, file sharing, and tons of reissues has really stressed romanticizing sampling THEE OLD AND OBSKURE more than ever before. This isn't a bad thing, it's just the way things are today. Shrug.

-- Mackro Mackro, Sunday, June 8, 2008 2:48 PM (Sunday, June 8, 2008 2:48 PM) Bookmark Link

Among the people who romanticize sampling THEE OLD AND OBSKURE. On the other hand, you have people making hit songs sampling Alice Deejay.

OK, in alphabetical order by artist and skipping loads I can't be bothered to check for:

Acoustic Ladyland - pretty much every song. Jazz-rock with a sick drummer.
Alcest - Tir Nan Og begins with a nice little break
Bark Psychosis - Shapeshifting ends with nearly 2 minutes of practically unaccompanied drum-break, most of the other tracks on Codename: Dustsucker have some sort of break in them
The Beta Band - jeez, erm just about anything, Lion Thief probably the best, Out-Side begins with a beauty, ah, so does Space, and all this from their last album only, there are even more in the S/T and HSII
Blur - On The Way To The Club and Ambulance, simple but effective each time

ah man time for a quick "break", lol

Boards Of Canada - Dayvan Cowboy has a SICK break that sounds live even if it isn't, therefore I'm counting it.

Vision Creation Newsun was 2000 wasn't it? :D

Scott or Mackro mentioned Trans Am, which is lighting up my brain. Lots of stuff on the last album, I'll bet.

can't believe nobody mentions "My Doorbell" by the White Stripes... great drum break

The Chap - Now Woel has one although I'm not sure it's entirely done with natural drums; a lot of their other songs have awesome-sounding drum-breaky things while other instruments are playing (a factor that has already caused me to discount loads of possibilities; it is meant to be a BREAK from the rest of the music after all I guess)
CHROME HOOF - SPOKES OF URIDIUM (this is the best example I have so far, you've either heard it or you haven't, their other songs for ex. Astral Suicide also have genuine virtuoso breaks)
Comets On Fire do this a lot! The Antlers of The Midnight Sun a prime example.
omg Deathspell Omega, I take it you haven't heard any avant-garde French black-metal Mr. Reverend
I bet Deerhoof do this
hahahahaha The Dillinger Escape Plan have never employed a drum-break, this is scientific fact, and if they have it's been too fast for human ears to process
Dodheimsgard - Apocalypticism begins with a sweet drum-break, it's the one song I can think of that bridges Norwegian black-metal with genuine disco-funk, no really
can't be fucked to check but Dungen has clearly done this
Elbow - Bitten By The Tailfly
Electrelane - Nick can help me out on this, I bet they have a drum-break in there somewhere

ffs THE FIERY FURNACES have as many drum-breaks as the rest of my iTunes A-F combined

Brainwasher OTM

The Go! Team - Ladyflash (OBV FFS)
Hood - Any Hopeful Thoughts Arrive starts with a mega break which happens to be spiced up with brief samples, later on in Outside Closer more conventional breaks are seen
Jaga - Mikado
King Crimson - Into The Frying Pan (yeah cheating but they still released stuff after 2000)
Koenjihyakkei and any self-respecting zeuhl band lurve this shit
lol d'ya think Lightning Bolt go in for this shit (hint: try Bizarro Bike)
LOLOL d'ya think The Mars Volta go in for this shit (hint: try L'Via L'Viaquez)
LOLOLOLOL MESHUGGAH ok srsly
My Morning Jacket - Lay Low

look i can't be fucked any more, suffice it to say that i have a TINY, SHIT collection and all this is what I have gleaned from HALF of it

new Young Gods album also crazy for the drum break

just wasted my evening

haha listening to "Freak Out/Starry Eyes" at this moment

I'm guessing the drums in "Ladyflash" might be sampled themselves

Battles - HI/LO

awesome drum break

nine inch nails
deerhoof

You mean, you guys have started missing Phil Collins already?

thread of missing phil collins

most everything on DFA and ITALIANS DO IT BETTER

lol

roffle

*snort*

mmrph!

well at least nobody who posted to this is of the "fuck ILM in 200X" crowd

stretching the definition of recent to absolute breaking point

Modest Mouse - Dramamine
Yo La Tengo - Nuclear War
Blind Melon - No Rain (ripped away version)
Spoon - Was It You
Jon Spencer Blues Explosion - Right Place Wrong Time
Oasis - Cloudburst, Listen Up, Supersonic

just a few that came to mind