he was about as far from cool as possible in the 80s and 90s; the very epitome of adult-contemporary mom-rock. my 19 year old cousin now describes him as "awesome." WTF
― res, Wednesday, 11 June 2008 20:59 (seventeen years ago)
AIDS
― s1ocki, Wednesday, 11 June 2008 21:00 (seventeen years ago)
9/11
phil collins has always been awesome
― Mr. Que, Wednesday, 11 June 2008 21:00 (seventeen years ago)
http://bernie.cncfamily.com/img/Questions.gif
― The stickman from the hilarious "xkcd" comics, Wednesday, 11 June 2008 21:00 (seventeen years ago)
s1ocki OTM, the reason it's cool to like phil collins now is that there's no God
― J0hn D., Wednesday, 11 June 2008 21:01 (seventeen years ago)
its cool like phil collins now because it wasnt cool 10 years ago
― max, Wednesday, 11 June 2008 21:02 (seventeen years ago)
thats how cool works, if you dont get it then youll never be cool
lol
it's cool b/c it was so uncool for so long, isn't that how it always is?
― Surmounter, Wednesday, 11 June 2008 21:02 (seventeen years ago)
i saw that you already posted that max, but i submitted it anyway becuase i wanted you to see that i see
― Surmounter, Wednesday, 11 June 2008 21:03 (seventeen years ago)
Generally this. But God makes an exception where hating Phil Collins' music is concerned. It's still cool to hate Phil Collins' music.
― Daniel, Esq., Wednesday, 11 June 2008 21:04 (seventeen years ago)
i like some solo phil collins but not other solo phil collins. i also like a lot of the later-period genesis more than i like the earlier stuff.
― get bent, Wednesday, 11 June 2008 21:05 (seventeen years ago)
hahaha daniel
― Surmounter, Wednesday, 11 June 2008 21:05 (seventeen years ago)
i hate phil collins
― bell_labs, Wednesday, 11 June 2008 21:05 (seventeen years ago)
thing i hate more than phil collins: logging in to post something and then being logged out by an intercepting xpost.
sorry, meta
― get bent, Wednesday, 11 June 2008 21:06 (seventeen years ago)
phil collins tho is a really good party subject-of-conversation. people have things to say
― Surmounter, Wednesday, 11 June 2008 21:07 (seventeen years ago)
Things to say like, "man he went bald early!"
― Daniel, Esq., Wednesday, 11 June 2008 21:08 (seventeen years ago)
its only cool to listen to "in the air tonight" also its always been cool to listen to "in the air tonight"
― jhøshea, Wednesday, 11 June 2008 21:09 (seventeen years ago)
NO HAIRPIECE REQUIRED
― get bent, Wednesday, 11 June 2008 21:09 (seventeen years ago)
he is a good drummer
― Jordan, Wednesday, 11 June 2008 21:11 (seventeen years ago)
phil collins is a weird figure that gets cathected with a lot of nonsense
― max, Wednesday, 11 June 2008 21:11 (seventeen years ago)
i think if you bring phil collins up at a party someone inevitably wants to put him on
― Surmounter, Wednesday, 11 June 2008 21:11 (seventeen years ago)
its impossible to have an opinion about the guy without it being a challops i think
― max, Wednesday, 11 June 2008 21:12 (seventeen years ago)
-- jhøshea, Wednesday, June 11, 2008 10:09 PM (1 minute ago) Bookmark Link
ie it's all michael mann's fault.
― banriquit, Wednesday, 11 June 2008 21:12 (seventeen years ago)
either being like, "i hate that dude, hes awful" or ppl like me who want to 'reclaim' him or whatever
jbr's stance is the most sensible but who wants to be sensible where phil is concerned
hating on this guy is so not challenging.
― banriquit, Wednesday, 11 June 2008 21:14 (seventeen years ago)
challenging is saying "but aaaaah! 'jesus he knows me' had some great drum fills" or whatever the fuck.
instead of letting this phil collins drive us apart we should focus on our agreement that the lyrics of "in the air tonight" are indeed some profound shit http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/In_The_Air_Tonight#Urban_legend
― jhøshea, Wednesday, 11 June 2008 21:15 (seventeen years ago)
"in the air tonight" is stone-classic esp. when youre high but there are a lot of gems in his catalog--"im not moving" for example. even sussuido is pretty great.
― max, Wednesday, 11 June 2008 21:15 (seventeen years ago)
my ringtone is "just a job to do"
― get bent, Wednesday, 11 June 2008 21:16 (seventeen years ago)
"even sussuido is pretty great."
no-one wants to call you bateman, but you don't make it easy.
― banriquit, Wednesday, 11 June 2008 21:16 (seventeen years ago)
bought that 12" for some reason
― deej, Wednesday, 11 June 2008 21:17 (seventeen years ago)
sounded good hearing it again in the store :-/
PHILL COLLINS FAQ
i have the sussudio seven inch
― Mr. Que, Wednesday, 11 June 2008 21:17 (seventeen years ago)
i was v into the genesis album invisible touch when i was 10
― jhøshea, Wednesday, 11 June 2008 21:19 (seventeen years ago)
lol great name for an album
― Surmounter, Wednesday, 11 June 2008 21:20 (seventeen years ago)
Voting Conservative, he declared a while ago, used to be as uncool as liking Phil Collins - but not any more.
― Billy Dods, Wednesday, 11 June 2008 21:20 (seventeen years ago)
'Once a party becomes too aligned with fashion you're on dangerous ground,' warns Bronwyn Cosgrave.
As usual, Bronwyn's so right - look what happened to Himmler's SS. Once black wasn't the new black they became so yesterday.
- Chubbarow, Nottingham, 19/5/2008 12:15
― The stickman from the hilarious "xkcd" comics, Wednesday, 11 June 2008 21:22 (seventeen years ago)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9xtbWjiXNzo&feature=related
^^^ fantastic video for i wish it would rain down feat. jefferey tambor
― max, Wednesday, 11 June 2008 21:22 (seventeen years ago)
xpost
we need Chubbarow on ILX now.
― Billy Dods, Wednesday, 11 June 2008 21:23 (seventeen years ago)
kevardo (3 weeks ago) 0 Reply | Spam the words of the song are so true
― max, Wednesday, 11 June 2008 21:23 (seventeen years ago)
Phil Collins is every bit as cool as Jethro Tull.
― Oilyrags, Wednesday, 11 June 2008 21:25 (seventeen years ago)
i am listening to the invisible touch now
still remember all the lyrics
― jhøshea, Wednesday, 11 June 2008 21:26 (seventeen years ago)
the way you bold that is really cracking me up for some reason
― Surmounter, Wednesday, 11 June 2008 21:26 (seventeen years ago)
it demands it really - i am just the vessel
― jhøshea, Wednesday, 11 June 2008 21:28 (seventeen years ago)
invisible touch video was so fucking ridiculous
― Mr. Que, Wednesday, 11 June 2008 21:28 (seventeen years ago)
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/d/db/InvisibleTouch86.jpg/200px-InvisibleTouch86.jpg
Answer to thread title: Collaborating with Bone Thugs N Harmony can do that do a guy is all.
― Eazy, Wednesday, 11 June 2008 21:29 (seventeen years ago)
Phil Collins is awesome because of this: http://www.thisamericanlife.org/Radio_Episode.aspx?episode=339
In the wake of a break-up, writer Starlee Kine finds so much comfort in break-up songs that she decides to try and write one herself—even though she has no musical ability whatsoever. For some help, she goes to a rather surprising expert on the subject: Phil Collins.
― jaymc, Wednesday, 11 June 2008 21:29 (seventeen years ago)
Is Phil Collins's vesion of "You Can't Hurry Love" the lamest cover attempt of all time? Might be.
Are you forgetting "Groovy Kind of Love"?
― Alfred, Lord Sotosyn, Thursday, 12 June 2008 17:26 (seventeen years ago)
why is it suddenly cool to dress like phil collins... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gSfJSJcDHkA
― rockapads, Thursday, 12 June 2008 17:54 (seventeen years ago)
anyone else have a soft spot for Cafe Jacques? I think phil played drums on Round the Back.
― rockapads, Thursday, 12 June 2008 18:12 (seventeen years ago)
"I Can't Dance" = AKA the we-cant-pee-we-cant-poo song.
― t**t, Thursday, 12 June 2008 18:23 (seventeen years ago)
Alfred OTM, plus the album it comes from is a pile of dicks.
"No Son Of Mine"... *shudder*
-- HI DERE
OK, thanks for the answer(s)!
I wasn't sure if you were maybe drawing a line in the sand on the dancefloor and taking some kinda stance in an imaginary war between the forces of good (dancers) and evil (non-dancers), in which case I would've had to protest on behalf of choreographically-challenged folks like myself who want no part in such a struggle. I'm a proud owner of hundreds of disco albums and think that dancing is a wonderful activity for other people, but will never set foot on a dancefloor ever again without a hefty dose of horse tranquilizer (which could only help me improve, who knows?)
― Myonga Vön Bontee, Thursday, 12 June 2008 21:01 (seventeen years ago)
What about his artistic, enlightened take on illegal immigration?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p7q1H3VKdp0
― mh, Thursday, 12 June 2008 21:07 (seventeen years ago)
his least defensible song is "another day in paradise." jesus christ does that shit suuuuuck
― kamerad, Thursday, 12 June 2008 21:48 (seventeen years ago)
What is some recent music with drum breaks?
― Geir Hongro, Thursday, 12 June 2008 21:50 (seventeen years ago)
"Another Day In Paradise" is perfectly fine musically. I agree those "I want to pretend I care without saying anything controversial" lyrics suck bigtime though.
― Geir Hongro, Thursday, 12 June 2008 21:52 (seventeen years ago)
Is Phil Collins's vesion of "You Can't Hurry Love" the lamest cover attempt of all time? Might be.Are you forgetting "Groovy Kind of Love"?-- Alfred, Lord Sotosyn, Thursday, June 12, 2008 5:26 PM (4 hours ago) Bookmark Link
-- Alfred, Lord Sotosyn, Thursday, June 12, 2008 5:26 PM (4 hours ago) Bookmark Link
Lou Reed, "Soul Man"
― Oilyrags, Thursday, 12 June 2008 21:52 (seventeen years ago)
"I Can't Dance" was my favourite song when I was nine.
― Bodrick III, Thursday, 12 June 2008 21:54 (seventeen years ago)
I should point out that I loathe Phil Collins and have on occasion enjoyed Lou Reed, so...
― Oilyrags, Thursday, 12 June 2008 22:00 (seventeen years ago)
Is Phil Collins's vesion of "You Can't Hurry Love" the lamest cover attempt of all time?
Lamont Dozier absolutely loves it. Surely, it may be because he thinks the original is perfect, because Phil Collins didn't really add anything to it other than male vocals.
― Geir Hongro, Thursday, 12 June 2008 22:02 (seventeen years ago)
He's just an inconsistent guy. Genesis s/t is pretty good with its moody numbers, but then in the middle of it you get this number.
― Eazy, Thursday, 12 June 2008 22:04 (seventeen years ago)
Other than the lyrics, "Illegal Aliean" isn't all that bad. (And lyrics aren't music)
― Geir Hongro, Thursday, 12 June 2008 22:06 (seventeen years ago)
Early 80s Collins with the atmospheric synths and and stuff is awesome. I thought that was just a given.
― Bodrick III, Thursday, 12 June 2008 22:06 (seventeen years ago)
I think that's the answer to the Phil Collins resurgence. The 20-somethings now were raised on Genesis ruling the airwaves.
― burt_stanton, Thursday, 12 June 2008 22:09 (seventeen years ago)
that illegal alien vid has been posted something like 3 times now. i'd never heard the song until today. i was embarrassed for them while watching it. ugh.
― rockapads, Thursday, 12 June 2008 22:10 (seventeen years ago)
"Illegal Alien" is the most explicitly political song the group has yet recorded and their funniest. The subject is supposed to be sad -- a wetback trying to get across the border into the United States -- but the details are highly comical: the bottle of tequila the Mexican holds, the new pair of shoes he's wearing (probably stolen); and it all seems totally accurate. Phil sings it in a brash, whiny pseudo-Mexican voice that makes it even funnier, and the rhyme of "fun" with "illegal alien" is inspired.
― Bodrick III, Thursday, 12 June 2008 22:20 (seventeen years ago)
but he's not any of those things you're supposed to glean from Ellis' tone.
Lewis and Collins seem to be down to earth blokes who anyone would enjoy having a beer with. It's just a complex relationship, how their music was produced, the particular culture of the time and place and context in which they were consumed...
― Fastnbulbous, Thursday, 12 June 2008 22:21 (seventeen years ago)
this is a good one http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p7q1H3VKdp0
― burt_stanton, Friday, 13 June 2008 00:08 (seventeen years ago)
make that four
― rockapads, Friday, 13 June 2008 00:09 (seventeen years ago)
I can't believe no one's mentioned the wonderfulness of "Easy Lover," but maybe because Philip Bailey deserves as much if not more credit.
― Alfred, Lord Sotosyn, Friday, 13 June 2008 00:14 (seventeen years ago)
Parody thread I will not actually start:
"Why is it suddenly cool to listen to Dr. Phil call-ins?"
― Hurting 2, Friday, 13 June 2008 00:16 (seventeen years ago)
Easy Lover
― burt_stanton, Friday, 13 June 2008 00:21 (seventeen years ago)
I'd be happy having that song on a desert-island mix.
― Eazy, Friday, 13 June 2008 00:42 (seventeen years ago)
EL is Phil Collins's best work as a clotheshorse.
― Eazy, Friday, 13 June 2008 01:19 (seventeen years ago)
No. Nothing can top this hideous abomination.
― Daniel, Esq., Friday, 13 June 2008 01:44 (seventeen years ago)
Good timing, thread. Last week I caught myself enjoying 'Something Happened on the Way to Heaven', and this week I played the entirety of 'Genesis' without vomiting. WHAT THE HELL IS GOING ON
― Autumn Almanac, Friday, 13 June 2008 01:53 (seventeen years ago)
and right now I'm listening to 'Invisible Touch' (sans 'In Too Deep, obviously) and actually appreciating parts of it. Someone's putting something heinous in the water, dead set.
― Autumn Almanac, Friday, 13 June 2008 01:55 (seventeen years ago)
People people, it's all baout the Tony Banks love, come on.
― Trayce, Friday, 13 June 2008 02:30 (seventeen years ago)
Trying to sit through Abacab, failing. He's doing that awful 'oi didn't do it guv' routine.
― Autumn Almanac, Friday, 13 June 2008 02:37 (seventeen years ago)
Someone's putting something heinous in the water
Spoiler alert. "The Happening"? Phil Collins.
― Hideous Lump, Friday, 13 June 2008 02:39 (seventeen years ago)
Misunderstanding is great. So is Man On The Corner. I like his drumming (80s-ish as it was) on I Know There's Something Going On.
But the vast majority of the rest of his stuff . . . ugggghhh.
― Daniel, Esq., Friday, 13 June 2008 02:54 (seventeen years ago)
i like will's pox, although sub out the last 2 for "in the air tonight" and "easy lover."
tipsy's right. I was meant to give "Easy Lover" an honorable mention, but you could definitely replace "Anything She Does" with "In the Air Tonight". And i think when I put down "the Brazilian" I actually meant "Domino", but after just listening to the Braz I'm not sure anymore...
― will, Friday, 13 June 2008 03:32 (seventeen years ago)
was
― will, Friday, 13 June 2008 03:33 (seventeen years ago)
I have to say, Collins is about the only thing I dont like much about Genesis. I watched the new live DVD from their 2007 tour the other night and there's a scene where he hams it up with a tambourine err... "dance" that he's done since the 70s (copied off Gabriel, I assume?) and it was painfully cringeworthy.
Also, on the extra DVD "behind the scenes" doco, he was being a complete grumpy little old cunge. "wah wah I have to get home to my kids".
― Trayce, Friday, 13 June 2008 03:39 (seventeen years ago)
Also, that bit in "Mama" with the "HA HA HA!" - classic or ridic?
― Trayce, Friday, 13 June 2008 03:42 (seventeen years ago)
Ridic.
― Daniel, Esq., Friday, 13 June 2008 03:43 (seventeen years ago)
Classic the first time, ridic by the 97th
― Autumn Almanac, Friday, 13 June 2008 03:44 (seventeen years ago)
PWEI ripped off the "Mama" drum loop as the riff in one of their songs, which I only realised recently.
I like "Abacab". I only discovered this the other day. I never realised it was a genesis song! I am slow.
― Trayce, Friday, 13 June 2008 03:49 (seventeen years ago)
C'mon guys, "Against All Odds" should be all over this thread. A brilliant song, and that's no even taking its karaoke potential into consideration!
― Tape Store, Friday, 13 June 2008 04:18 (seventeen years ago)
I made a cd with this cover
http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2378/2487686581_7b49b904db_m.jpg
― S-, Friday, 13 June 2008 06:23 (seventeen years ago)
I only just realised that, thanks to this thread, the only music I've listened to all day is Phil Collins. Fuck this thread.
― Autumn Almanac, Friday, 13 June 2008 08:07 (seventeen years ago)
Anyway, if the kids find Phil Collins cool again, hopefully they will also check out what he contributed to pre the 80s. That was better than his 80s material, even though the latter (particularly the first three solo albums) is better than its reputation as well.
― Geir Hongro, Friday, 13 June 2008 09:02 (seventeen years ago)
hopefully they will also check out what he contributed to pre the 80s. That was better than his 80s material
we have ^^^ truth bomb and we have ^^^ challops but we don't have ^^^ der freddie
― Autumn Almanac, Friday, 13 June 2008 11:35 (seventeen years ago)
Adverts, drugs, the re-emergence of Maroon 5?! I don't know. I'm too drunk for this shit.
― VeronaInTheClub, Friday, 13 June 2008 16:51 (seventeen years ago)
phil collins/genesis songs that i like:
"in the air tonight" "mama" "take me home" "i don't care anymore" "home by the sea" (this is a "suite," right?) "misunderstanding" "follow you/follow me" (god help me) "illegal alien" (if you can ignore the borderline [no pun intended] racist lyrics) "that's all" (why so little love for THIS one, given this board's unabasbed pop love?!?)
― Eisbaer, Friday, 13 June 2008 17:41 (seventeen years ago)
Eleventh Earl of Mar is all flavours of epic.
― Autumn Almanac, Saturday, 14 June 2008 00:07 (seventeen years ago)
this is why:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Person_Pitch
― amateurist, Saturday, 14 June 2008 09:03 (seventeen years ago)