Psychedelic Country Music

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Grudzien was my first thought as well. Then The Flying Burrito Brothers. Two Grudzien tracks appear on the Yee-Haw!: The Other Side of Country comp. I didn't like it, though.

I don't know...The Grateful Dead?

I've been liking Deerfield, Country Joe and the Fish and 50 Foot Hose lately.

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i knew about the flying burrito bros. just curious if there was stuff out there that was really psyched out country.

ill check that grudzien, looks interesting

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great grateful dead-type shit but a bit further south

Can we talk about early-mid70s West Coast post-psych/pop/rock/folk-rock/country-rock?

http://www.myspace.com/dcharlesspeer

Check that West Coast thread. It's my most fave on ilm.

Charley D. and Milo -- twee psych-country from '70:

http://musiconthefringe.blogspot.com/2007/01/charley-d-and-milo.html

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and Nancy And Lee

The Sadies

Gene Clark

Seriously, Some Velvet Morning

captain beefheart sometimes

this Grudzien dude is awesome!

yeah was listening to some of that grudzien based on the rec from sshasta and wow, here is the henry darger of country music.

Hazlewood on acid

D Charles Speer seconded big time with extreme prejudice

Speer rules. Needs to tour the South and Appalachia.

Also, Charlie Tweddle:

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Tweddle is like the Godz/Shaggs of Northern California hippie country. This record smells like hemp.

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The Gourds.

Did this thread REALLY go this far without a mention of Spence's Oar? I had to read it three times just to make sure.

Just now listening to Area 615's s/t (1969) and Trip in the Country (1970) on one disc (kindly provided by Edd Hurt), is pyschedelic enough to expand my mind enough to halfway grasp new shapes of chesnuts I'd long since really stopped hearing, whether I liked them or not: the former would include "I've Been Loving You Too Long," now on its way to the family bayou of "Jolie Blonde" (wish they'd done that too; the "not category would include "Hey Jude," which starts out with "Loving You"'s olld school Cajun tinge, but then zigzags toward "Psychotic Reaction" and other nice thangs (later, way into Trip, "Gray Suit Man" is a yowling garage bust of the Man, chugging away; the bass sounds like a 10-ton jug all through both sets; the drummer is ravenous too; but use of sustain, fuzz, mebbe Moog, bass harmonica through echo chamber? never crowd the banjo, steel, oh lord the fiddle--some great ballads too, in between the rolling panstylistic puzzle palacess) A-List Nashville Cats, kicking out more than jams, more than resumes; real-enough soul, and some originals I guess, and trad-arr.beyond the festival bait (not that it wouldn't sound great live) It's like the first time I ever heard two LPs on one of those newfangled CDs: two much man!(Made Galileo look lak uh Boy Scout. Sorry bout that, let it all hang out.)

If someone more well-versed in the guitar could figure out the chords to Grudzien's "The Unicorn" I would be forever in debt. I can figure out the root notes but I don't know enough about the guitar to figure out beyond that. I know it's a long shot, but I figured it's worth a try.

Also, if anyone has a good quality rip of Cowboy in Sweden please send it my way. I've gotten a number of straight-from-vinyl rips over the years but all of them are extremely static-y and I've never come across a physical copy.

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Also, if anyone has a good quality rip of Cowboy in Sweden please send it my way. I've gotten a number of straight-from-vinyl rips over the years but all of them are extremely static-y and I've never come across a physical copy.

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see the Smells Like Sounds CD edition

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The Omni Recording Corporation from Australia (http://www.myspace.com/theomnirecordingcorporation) is a very compelling reissue label with some stuff that might interest you. Not necessarily psychedelic in the swirling phasers and backwards guitar solo sense, but more of "outsider" country thing -- a lot of it is selections from more IN type folks, too, which is interesting if you're a country fan.

can't f with that grudzien

Grudzien reminds me of someone, not sure who..maybe tom verlaine?
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Me too, but it's not Verlaine. Someone from movies...shrugs...

horror movies...

and back to the original question:
the butthole surfers did some psych-country back then,,,

The International Tussler Society is Motorpsycho doing country for once, and it's pretty close to what you are asking for I suppose. Another act from Norway that may be slightly that thing is Sgt. Petter, who musically is sort of a cross-in-between 66-67 Beatles and Gram Parsons-like country rock.

And how about Gene Clark's "No Other"?

clark already mentioned here

What about early Kenny Rogers? Pre-Gambler he put out the song Just Dropped In (To See What Condition My Condition Was In) with The First Edition.

Rex Allen Jr.'s Today's Generation, '70. Mentions "videophones" and LSD. Some mellotron and harpsichord, not quite as psychedelic as one would have hoped but still mighty strange. There's a bunch of Bobby Bare and John D. Loudermilk concept records from the '60s that fall into this category too.

So, there's a a previous thread on this from a couple years ago, called "I found $41 on the ground today, so let's talk about Psychedelic Country!"; I've been trying to link to it for the past 24 hours, and keep getting the same retarded error message. Anyway, it lists lots of stuff not mentioned here; maybe somebody else can cut and paste the link...

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That'll do it. Oddly, I posted it in BBCode, it returned the error and refused it. Then I just posted it for C&P and it mounted it. Perhaps a change was made to how the chatboard software handles naked URLs.

"it seems obvious that the term psychedelic (which is elastic to begin with) has to be modified to fit the genre we're dealing with."

eggzactly

"skot i sent u the mp3s of that hoover record. i'm not sure if the ILM email thing worked or not."

i got it. i haven't listened yet. thanks!

i have another album by that hoover guy, and it's not country nor is it psych. it's more like loner folk. good album. he's sitting in front of a tombstone w/"Hoover" written on it

-- jaxon, Wednesday, June 18, 2008 6:21 AM (13 hours ago) Bookmark Link

yeah i'd love to run across the vinyl of that...seen the picture online.

yeah i don't know if it's psych or whatever, i've never seen so many panties in a bunch over the definition of psych before.

basically i just figured if ppl dug some of the stuff on this thread they might like hoover

I'm glad you mentioned him!

this is not the way home

and this, too

Scott mentioned Quicksilver above, and yeah, maybe it's more interesting when country people go psych than the other way around, but I just wanted to say that I've been listening to the used $1 vinyl copy of 1969's Shady Grove I bought last year, and the first side, at least, definitely qualifies for this thread regardless. (Second side is cool, too, but maybe more proto-goth-metal and proto-jazz-fusion. I don't know their other stuff at all; curious, now, if this is considered one of their best, worst, or what. Either way, I like it a lot.)

Another more recent band (possibly mentioned on the other thread) who might belong here: Grandpa's Ghost.

And I know he's not super obscure collectors' bait or anything, but Neil Young deserves at least one mention on his thread. So okay, now he has one.

picked up that Byrds Albert Hall 71 thing last nite on vinyl..wowser great stuff!

8 miles high is frickin' nuts!

i always forget gram parsons was an awesome drummer

He was a man of many talents but he wasn't much of a drummer! I generally like Gene Parsons' songs in The Byrds and that song he did with the Burritos, "Wind and Rain" is great

There are a couple live albums from that period. But this new one has such awesome sound. This weekend my friend is bringing me a burn of some old live bootleg from '70. It's from L.A. If it's any good, I'll check in.

I'll have to check out Shady Grove. I'm pretty ignorant of Quicksilver after Happy Trails.

gram, gene, gram, gene...

i think gram plays awesome on this new live one..the whole band is on fire...skip the bass player has a bonkers solo and clarence white is just mindblowing on this record....

it's so all over the place...everything from super freakout guitar jamz to an acapella "amazing grace"

i didn't know "jesus is just alright" was a byrds song!

gram, gene, gram, gene...

-- QuantumNoise, Thursday, June 19, 2008 3:37 PM (1 minute ago) Bookmark Link

what if science could have combined the powers of gene clark and gram parsons? woah.

you mean gene parsons, not gram.

Gene Parsons = Byrds drummer
Gram Parsons = International Submarine Band, Sweetheart-era Byrds, Flying Burrito Bros, Keith Richards' drug buddy

Gene = droopy moustached dude, saw him play in Glasgow once with his wife/partner!

(to confuse things Gene also joined the Burritos in the mid '70s!)

Gene was also a member of Nashville West.

haha jesus christ i'm so messed up.

aaaaanyway...gene parsons is a great drummer and gram parsons was a great songwriter and gene clark was a genius and the byrds are a great band!

gene parsons gene clark michael clarke gram parsons

... and they were all involved with the Burritos too

Rhapsody has an interesting interview with Chris Hillman. They pose the Gram vs. Gene (Clark) question to him. He thought Gram was super talented, but, he said, Gene was a stone-cold genius. Then again, he was also a lunatic, Hillman said.

i think the only think that could make this 71 byrds live album better is (maybe) sneaky pete kleinow

I think of "psych" as festooned with tropes, not nec. mind-expanding, and "acid music" can be, as St. Jerry said whatever music you like to trip to (or don't nec.like, but get involved with tripping to, I said)So, for me, John Wesley Harding was psychedelic country(and I did like it). And in thee afterglow of life)some Giant Sand/Howe Gelb/Arizona Amp & Amplifier, when not too slowww (I deplore the current use of "sludge" *not* as a put down, but as just another tag). The last couple of Oakley Hall albums too, and Speck Mountain, who sometimes, like on "Hey Moon," ahve this early Sissy Spacektronica thang going on (yall can still hear the song and maybe still download it, on Paper Thin Walls)Bodies Of Water (two albs, incl the new one, which I think may also be excerpted on PTW by now) expand my idea of the possibilties of men & women singing together, and about what.

The original tripping hippies, as in 1965/Red Dog Saloon/Charlatans, weren't even playing insane out there stuff. They were playing a mix of pop, folk, jug band, garage, all with a little twang. The Charlatans version of "Codeine Blues" sounds like Americana/alt-country WAY ahead of schedule.

In other words, dow, I'm digging what you're saying!

Dan Hicks, who was in the Charlatans, said they took a lot of acid, but yeah, they were into the old-tymey stuff, the Old Weird/wired etc--though I think their own LP has often been considered thin, at least soundwise--maybe better remastered? I do like Hicks and His Hot Licks, Jim Kweskin & The Jug Band, etc., but in terms of taking those songs on a trip, we need Holy Modal Rounders, and some of Stampfel's sidetrips, for the sound and smell of his voice, on trad-arr., collabs, solo writing, or unlikely pop covers. Also, I guess we should give a nod to the red-eyed beardo flamboyance of Music From Big Pink (reissued with bonus tracks, though they may be same as the demos Robertson tweaked and put on the legit Basement Tapes, which also has its psychedelic country moments, on some of Dylan's songs)

Also ones who creatively tapped mountain surrealism: Freakwater, once they started developing their own writing.

The Charlatans are not well represented on record. However, that version of "Codeine Blues" is a masterpiece.

but in terms of taking those songs on a trip

A trip. Exactly. Or even role playing. The early SF sound, as embodied by the Charlatans, wasn't about long jams, mind bending sonics, etc. It was about diving into the songs, becoming the characters in those songs, playing the song out like a dream. Wild West mythology is a fundamental component to psychedelia's original DNA. This comes out in the early music: massive, spacey sounding folk-rock. In my opinion you can follow this sound (this attitutde), as it headed back to the south and eventually influenced the outlaw movement. Waylon reconnecting with the mythology of country music, whether it's real or not, has (in a very impressionistic way) a similar sound to the original acid-inspired folk-rock: those huge, hypnotic chords on "Are You Sure Hank Done it This Way." The way he spaces the instrumentation on his best records. There's space in there. There's an understanding of a pop song as a kind of dreamscape. But now I'm rambling!

"Are You Sure Hank Done it This Way." The way he spaces the instrumentation on his best records. There's space in there. There's an understanding of a pop song as a kind of dreamscape. But now I'm rambling!

Always reminded me of the Velvets funny enough - but i see what you mean

Well, the Velvets had "Lonesome Cowboy Bill" and the bootheel pickin' and other elements of their Live In Texas doubleLP (now two sep CDs)--but also, if you like that connection, def check Dreamin Waylon's Dreams, by Chuck Prophet (of Green On Red, wayy back, and they also pertain to this thread)

For a great fusion of folk-rock, hippie country, tribal shenanigans and Loaded-era VU, go straight to Brewer & Shipley's cover of Jim Pepper's "Witchi-tai-to."

Of course, when we get to Loaded, Yule brothers in da house, but it's great, eh Lou? "It's a lot of people's favorite, and I'm not even on it!" Also, there's Cale's Tex-Mex solo in the middle of "Sister Ray." And somebody at that party "...came from Alabama..."

awesome pic of peter grudzien from the recent wfmu

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oh holy shit that's fucking amazing what. a dude.

One of my favourites of the past few years has gotta be Beachwood Sparks. Debut self-titled is the better of the two, but the follow up is great too, 'Once we were Trees'.

I think right at the centre of the junction of psychedelic and country is an instrument called pedal steel guitar.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5tPk2pV00B8

grudzien = dwyer

Its not psychedelic per se, but it is one of deepest soul wrenching echo laden 45's I've heard.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HSdrkyeppwM

The Charlatans are not well represented on record. However, that version of "Codeine Blues" is a masterpiece.

but in terms of taking those songs on a trip

A trip. Exactly. Or even role playing. The early SF sound, as embodied by the Charlatans, wasn't about long jams, mind bending sonics, etc. It was about diving into the songs, becoming the characters in those songs, playing the song out like a dream. Wild West mythology is a fundamental component to psychedelia's original DNA. This comes out in the early music: massive, spacey sounding folk-rock. In my opinion you can follow this sound (this attitutde), as it headed back to the south and eventually influenced the outlaw movement. Waylon reconnecting with the mythology of country music, whether it's real or not, has (in a very impressionistic way) a similar sound to the original acid-inspired folk-rock: those huge, hypnotic chords on "Are You Sure Hank Done it This Way." The way he spaces the instrumentation on his best records. There's space in there. There's an understanding of a pop song as a kind of dreamscape. But now I'm rambling!

― QuantumNoise, Thursday, 19 June 2008 20:23 (2 years ago)

I do find the electric part of the sound, if you can hear past what material is being played, to be pretty psychedelic folk-rock. I just keep coming across people who dismiss it as being old-timey songs and therefore can't be remotely psychedelic. A bit like saying Liege & Lief is a selection of Child ballads so has no prog-psych elements.
I love the long version of Alabama Bound on Amazing Charlatans I get images of a gossamer winged creature taking flight. Beautiful, one of my favourite recordings.
The interplay of the band had me wondering for ages if they did take off more live but now having live tracks by them, seems that they don't really. I do love that Amazing Charlatans set though & especially Mike wilhelm's guitar.

D. Charles Speer has a new one out in a few weeks that kinda-sorta fits this thread

Gene Clark's Cosmic Americana masterpiece No Other is the quintessential album of psychedelic country music.

More recently, I HIGHLY RECOMMEND the unsung and underrated psychedelic folk/country band Cotton Jones

All three of their albums are modern classics:
The River Strumming
Paranoid Cocoon
Tall Hours in the Glowstream

this is one of my favourite albums

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I made a list on Rate Your Music about this very thing. Check it out here- http://rateyourmusic.com/list/crunchytunes/best_psychedelic_country_rock_records

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All hail!