katy perry - what do you think?

I think she needs to be sent to the guillotine

This was in a pile of random CD's I was screening the other day and it sounds like Pink taking a shit. I couldn't listen for more than 3 minutes.. it's one of the worst things I've ever heard in my life. Not kidding.

wtf is this shit even

like if you zapped lily allen of literally every single one of her redeemable qualities and on top of that made her some cobrasnake l.a. douche

do not fucking want not now not ever

I think it's supposed to appeal to Pink fans, but she looks more like Lily Allen. I hate Pink's music, and this is a million times worse. This album may be worse than Weathered.

ok she just looks like lily allen then?

this "kissed a girl" is alright but ppl dont really care about this right? i mean she seems to be literally talentless

btw i know ppl care about this but by ppl i mean critic types

i think the referents offered up so far are interesting cuz on the whole i like pink + lily allen, & those are the two that first popped into my head, third one being nelly mckay (ur so gay)

i love all of the above & i guess thats why she piques my interest - dunno if the criticism here is based on the idea that that appeal is intentional, or that she's inherently some kinda blanderized version - like i said to me at any rate she's new which is why i think she could develop into something more than decent

she sounds way too fucking pleased w/ herself

I just listened to her two singles are they are terrible. The comparisons with Lily Allen are otm. At least Lily Allen is fairly charming, somewhat.

Craziest fucking thing ever Dr Luke, Cathy Dennis & Max Martin!!!!!!!!!!1111111 wrote "I Kissed A Girl". SAY WHAT

Ouch. (From Slant Magazine)

f all the new artists Madonna has endorsed over the years (Björk, Mandalay, Goldfrapp, Gogol Bordello—hell, even Ricky Martin), Katy Perry is probably the least stimulating of the lot. It's possible that Madonna sees a little bit of her former self in Perry: The crass "If You Can Afford Me" is like "Material Girl" with the irony built right into the Cliffs Notes lyrical bridge: "I don't need your dollar bills/I just want something real." But that's where the similarities end. This generation's concept of being edgy and provocative is tame and retrograde. Perry confuses political incorrectness with being subversive on tracks like "Hot n Cold," in which she, in the process of skewering guys who change their minds "like girls change clothes," just winds up sounding mildly sexist.

Lead single "I Kissed a Girl" features a throbbing beat and an infectious, bi-curious hook, but its self-satisfied, in-your-face posturing rings phony in comparison to the expertly constructed ambiguities of "Justify My Love" or practically anything in the first decade of Ani DiFranco's catalogue; it's like a tween version of DiFranco's tortured bisexual confession "Light of Some Kind." "I Kissed a Girl" isn't problematic because it promotes homosexuality, but because its appropriation of the gay lifestyle exists for the sole purpose of garnering attention—both from Perry's boyfriend and her audience. "I hope you hang yourself with your H&M scarf," is an effectively biting way to kick off a song that lambastes metrosexuals (on "UR So Gay," the track Madge has been promoting, unsolicited, during radio interviews), but Perry's casually derogatory use of the word "gay" is emblematic of how the word has been optioned by straight youth. And what does it say that Perry has gotten famous doing it—and thanks, in part, to the reigning queen of the gay community?

"Mannequin" features some cleverly written lyrics, but Perry doesn't possess the grit or vocal prowess to follow through, and the title track is like No Doubt's "Just a Girl" sans personality and conviction: "I tape these suckers down/'Cause they just get in the way," she declares about her breasts before admitting, "I just wanna be your homecoming queen/Pin-up poster dream." Perry's vies for sympathy are even less convincing: See the dull "Lost" or "I'm Still Breathing," Perry's collaboration with Dave Stewart. What first seems like a candid admission of self-destructiveness ("I leave the gas on/Walk the alleys in the dark") is ultimately just a metaphor for a dying relationship. "I wanna break the mold/Wanna break the stereotype," Perry claims on "Fingerprints." Then don't hire Max Martin, Dr. Luke and Cathy Dennis to pen and produce your record. Alas, I suppose it's foolish to expect progressiveness from a girl whose debut was a Christian gospel album.

I actually think the album's not bad, fwiw:

http://www.blender.com/guide/reviews.aspx?id=5184

girl is way cute, song kinda sucks, but it's weird to me how now and then something so garden variety bad inspires so much ire, there's like a million angry blog posts about her.

That review's sorta otm.

I think I actually prefer Perry's cynicism to Allen's bitchery, but i wouldn't listen to either of them.

Despite there being plenty of reasons to hate "I Kissed a Girl" (many detailed here) there's something about the song that I find appealing.

Holy shit, this album is awesome.

only hear "ur so gay" and "i kissed a girl", but she's really awesome. gonna check out the album

only heard*

"I kissed a girl" in particular is the shit-- what a bold, arresting hook.

she sounds way too fucking pleased w/ herself

-- The Reverend, Tuesday, June 17, 2008 5:03 AM (Yesterday)

this is definitely true, but I like it

POP STAR WITH BIG EGO NEWS AT 11

Nothing pisses me off more than faux-lesbian pleas for attention, except maybe casual homophobia. She's managed two for two on that, then.

lol lighten up

i mean, the whole song is poking fun at tila tequila-style bisexuals and "faux-lesbians"

i don't see what's "casually homophobic" about it

tila tequila-style bisexuals
this is the first thing i thought about when i heard this song

I THINK SHE IS A DUD

"casual homophobia" was referring to "Ur so Gay."

I used to think "catchy" was a compliment.

Brain, I think he was referring to "Ur So Gay" as being casually homophobic. Which I guess it is, though it might be best described as metro-phobic.

agreed with brainwasher. i hear someone say "you're so gay" (or whatever, "UR") and my first thought is that they need to be punched in the face. clearly, conservative critics can stop worrying about political correctness' hegemonic choke-hold on popular culture.

heh, sorry, didn't mean to kill the thread with a possibly uncalled-for outburst. but i am a little mystified over how a cut like that can get a pass.

wait I'm confused do you like it or not

'cuz you said you agree with me

i mean, the whole song is poking fun at tila tequila-style bisexuals and "faux-lesbians"

really? i'd like to think this, but i have a feeling she's just being obnoxious for the sake of sales

oops, you're right, i was wrong there brain. i skimmed, i thought you were saying it wasn't even "casually" homophobic. never mind, we fall on opposite sides here.

it's like, "Ur such a n*gger, and you're not even black"
or
"Ur such a k*ke and you're not even Jewish"

choose your putdown. call me uptight but using "gay" as a putdown is straight-up (no pun intended) neanderthal. (no offense to neanderthals.)

really? i'd like to think this, but i have a feeling she's just being obnoxious for the sake of sales

-- Tape Store, Wednesday, June 18, 2008 9:05 PM (1 minute ago)

have you seen the video? it's very tongue-in-cheek

ay ya ya people actually like this shit

like seriously we're at ting tings/kate nash level here, ie rock bottom

pshrbrn: yeah, I don't really think that's comparable but whatever.

lex in having standards SHOCKA

Michael Scott: I call everybody faggy. Why would anyone find that offensive?
Toby: I think Oscar would like it if you just used "lame" or something.
Michael Scott: But that's what faggy means!

Michael Scott: You don't call retarded people retards. It's bad taste. You call your friends retards when they are acting retarded. And I consider Oscar a friend.

Clusterfuck thread of the summer.

thing is in the context of her song "ur so gay" could potentially be y'know, an effective putdown, cuz that kind of american-apparel-wearing uselessly weedy str8 indie boys are kind of gay, in the rubbish sense, and also a bit too gay in the gay sense, but she just flags it up so much, it's so tiringly LOOK AT ME I SAID GAY. and there's just nothing witty about any of her putdowns. halfwitty maybe.

and she kissed a girl and liked it, so fucking what.

plus, annoying voice.

"oops, you're right, i was wrong there brain. i skimmed, i thought you were saying it wasn't even "casually" homophobic. never mind, we fall on opposite sides here.

it's like, "Ur such a n*gger, and you're not even black"
or
"Ur such a k*ke and you're not even Jewish"

choose your putdown. call me uptight but using "gay" as a putdown is straight-up (no pun intended) neanderthal. (no offense to neanderthals.)"

but k*ke and n*gger are epithets, gay is not.

in actual use, she's not saying "that's so gay" in the gradeschool sense of putting down something she thinks is lame, she's saying that her metro boyfriend ACTS gay. Which, I'll grant you, is a close-minded thing to say, but it's not really prototypical homophobia. It's more metrophobia-- she wants her straight boyfriend to act straight.

"and she kissed a girl and liked it, so fucking what."

The so fucking what is that the song has BIG TIME BALLS-OUT POP HOOKS.

yeah exactly, I kissed a girl and I liked it GLAM ROCK STOMP FUCK YEAH

right, because driving priuses and being vegetarian are obvious hallmarks of homosexuality.

oh my god lighten up

are you even gay

okay no one is really going to car about this but I just saw the "California Girls" video for the first time

what the fuck did I just see

I am having problems processing what just happened

did she really defeat a gummi bear army by shooting whipped cream out of her breasts

why was she in a cloud naked

what did any of that have to do with California

I am confused

What, none of that sounds like California, land of porn?

That's probably what California looks like if you smoke as much weed as Snoop.

I don't think weed makes you see candy girls wrapped in plastic/Jell-O/bubble gum or makes you eat your neighbors

the "cali gurls" video is weird bcuz i was sorta hoping she'd do like... a cali version of the "empire state of mind" video, filming in really iconic places like malibu and the hollywood sign and rodeo dr or w/e. but on the other hand i guess i get why they would go in another direction, and i thought "x rated candyland" was as goodbad goodbad idea as any other

really, man, you had dreams of what the ideal "california gurls" video should be

well no, but when i read 10 months ago that the "california gurls" video had come out, i thought "oh hey, it would be cool if this was over the top california" and then it wasn't, and i didn't really think about again after that day until right now

right, right

don't really get why anyone would be disappointed about it not sticking to what would be a pretty tired concept though

California gurls
We're bare-assed naked
On a cloud of cotton candy
All up in our butts

Friend who has three pregnant sophomores in one of her journalism classes hates "Teenage Dream" so much.

that's slightly weird in the sense that "Teenage Dream" is the best and probably least ubiquitous of those 5 big hits off the last album

Friend who has three pregnant sophomores in one of her journalism classes hates "Teenage Dream" so much.

― Kiarostami bag (milo z), Saturday, September 17, 2011 3:03 PM (44 minutes ago) Bookmark

lol i didn't mean to post that

Teacher's antipathy perhaps based on the example set by the video.

When you party with u-us
You'll think every girl
Has cupcakes for tits

a cali version of the "empire state of mind" video, filming in really iconic places like malibu and the hollywood sign and rodeo dr or w/e

"Teenage Dream" really does feel like the vid equivalent of this, mostly.

snd

"Teenage Dream" is the best and probably least ubiquitous of those 5 big hits off the last album

OTM

interesting

Kemosabe will become Sony’s fourth label division, with Dr. Luke reporting directly to Mr. Morris. The label is expected to become operational in January, and Dr. Luke will have free rein to hire staff members and sign artists. One trade-off: because he can now produce only Sony artists, Dr. Luke will not be able to work with Ms. Perry, who records for EMI.

SNAP

roflmao. guess she will have only stargate-produced singles for her next album.

RIP career

drowning in tears right now i bet

woah i did not realize that katy perry is listed first in "writing credits" for all the songs on teenage dream

rolling stone:

The amicable nature of the divorce settlement was driven home by Perry's signature on the court documents, which included a heart and a smiley face.

love this bitch

http://www.youtube.com/watch?&v=lrJz9Dh5MsM#!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lrJz9Dh5MsM

is this the thread to post things about katy perry? i just watched the dark horse video for the first time and all i can say is 1) i hope the costume designer gets one of those cheap lines at H&M because i will buy it all and 2) she sure has come a long way

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=khArr7DzS38

ahhh fuck I heard "Roam" by the B-52s the other day and it struck me as an alternate-universe Katy Perry song

Damn, I heard Roam in a grocery store yesterday and just put it on Spotify on repeat when I got back to my car because it's so fucking good, but I've considered it in a Katy Perry context. You may have something there, frogs.

someone please come up with something funny connecting “Roam” and “Roar”

This thread has been here for eleven years, and yet still Katy Perry refuses to tell us what she thinks.

I think they're dancing peni...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=led8kSxI4DA

Sold her catalogue for 225 mil

https://variety.com/2023/music/news/katy-perry-sells-catalog-rights-litmus-music-1235726293/

Way at the beginning of this thread, Chuck Eddy links to his Blender review--I clicked on it, and was taken to a page where actual blenders are reviewed.

http://www.blender.com/guide/reviews.aspx?id=5184

I feel like that might be the best metaphor ever for the history of rock criticism.

"a modern and stylish machine with enough power and capacity to perform just any functions and do them satisfactorily"

sounds about right

Perfect!

Katy Purée

lol

I'm listening to her new album because I'm a glutton for punishment and it's abysmal, worse than any of us could imagine

average rating on RYM is 1.43 right now lmao

seriously that's pretty impressive, real hard to drop below 2.0 on that site

probably a deserved score, but I'm giving that the side-eye given the album title. might be some score manipulation involved somewhere.

its pretty hard to manipulate the score of a mainstream album, especially since no one knows how RYM's algorithm works. and the mods are way too humorless to do that on purpose

probably, just one heck of a coincidence when you are getting down to that level of decimal points

Maura went in.

https://www.rollingstone.com/music/music-album-reviews/katy-perry-143-review-1235108317

good review.