KANYE vs WAYNE

deej: its funny imagining in 2002 or something
that the biggest rap stars six years from now
would be lil wayne and kanye west
and what: yeah nobody coulda predicted
the dude who ghosted bad boy b-lister productions and the block is hot kid

deej: its funny imagining in 2002 or something that the biggest rap stars six years from now would be lil wayne and kanye west

and what: yeah nobody coulda predicted the dude who ghosted bad boy b-lister productions and the block is hot kid

reformatted, stupid gchat

anyway i voted kanye

this is kinda tough actually. especially because the "Lollipop" remix makes it easy to forget either's good qualities.

i pick WANYE

i was tempted to pick wayne, i think early wayne is pretty great but hes never really been my favorite hot boy (altho hot boys >> kanye & wayne) but hometown pride x watching kanye dominate like every demographic is still crazy to me, and the way people talked about his music was way less annoying than the way ppl talk about current wayne

wow this is really hard. idk...kanye's more annoying at his worst but more emotionally compelling at his best. but weezy is funnier, has more swagger and can also be emotionally compelling. kanye has more interesting beats (also more terrible beats) and better pop sensibilities. aagh i'll just pick weezy.

for pure voice alone i prefer t.i. to either

i voted wayne bcuz he's ultimately a better rapper, even though im not sure if wayne's 3 best albums/mixtapes w/e are better than kanye's 3 albums

i think in the future wayne's event rap is gonna be less irritating than kanye's event rap

KANYE ON LOLLIPOP > WAYNE ON LOLLIPOP

WHAT

CHALLOPIPOP

wayne's verses on the original>>wayne on the remix>>ye on the remix

ye on "put on">>all of those, though

those arrows are all rong!!! kanye kills the remix

"you just like fritos/ im tryin to lay" is the one hot line i think

tell a girl like doritos thats na-cho cheese

anyway back to the question at hand, i almost voted kanye because as a solo artist at least he is remarkably consistent, and i dont think i like my 5 fav wayne songs that much better than my 5 fav kanye songs, where as kanye's worst 5 don't even begin to touch the shitiness 5 worst songs wayne has recorded in the past 2 years

then again ye doesn't have it in him to record a "best rapper alive" or "go dj" or "upgrade u"

lol thats an elementary school joke xp

i think in the future wayne's event rap is gonna be less irritating than kanye's event rap

-- and what, Thursday, June 19, 2008 12:07 PM (8 minutes ago) Bookmark Link

yeah i dunno, i was thinking about this. i could see the quality of Kanye's albums going up and down over the years and maybe becoming increasingly obnoxious as years go on but still occasionally coming out with something really dope, where i have no idea what the best case scenario for Wayne's future trajectory would even be, besides not dying or making total bullshit wannabe-Prince autotune records for years.

lol thats an elementary school joke xp

-- J0rdan S., Thursday, June 19, 2008 11:18 AM (4 minutes ago) Bookmark Link

and frito lay joke isnt?

i just like to say kenyon my hamster died today and your song through the wire made me feel like it wornt the end of the hamster lfe more like the beginning off a hole new one .
Maybe i mist the point here but thats what this song means to me just getting buy taking the good with the bad pain in my case i just like to say if u could here me now your song really helped me forget my worries and like i was made that nothing mattered for those 4:32 mins/sec of the song.
id like to say ....................
his name was rony
rony from my cage

his name is rony the hamster who is the greates hamster a little boy/man women could have

this my friends is the passion .....
and this rony is goodbye

-- oliver honder, Friday, 2 April 2004 17:56 (4 years ago) Link

aw

i, rony

can't stand kanye
will always use "apologin'" as evidence
also how many of the catchiest graduation beats (champion, the glory, etc.) don't stand up after a few replays

will always use "apologin'" as evidence

this isnt an invalid argument but wayne is a worse offender wrt intentionally mispronouncing words than ye is

well, Wayne didn't really do that until "Barry Bonds," now every other new verse has some "oops I mean" schtick.

this is so so so Kanye it's not funny

actually, career wise i should vote for wayne but graduation vs. carter iii i think graduation is a lot better

but then i would take lollipop/milli 12" over the singles off graduation

opinions4u

This is very white versus black.

o rly?

actually, career wise i should vote for wayne but graduation vs. carter iii i think graduation is a lot better

what about carter II v. late reg? relatively new directions for both, same year etc. etc. im taking carter II but i've grown to like late registration a lot more over the years

but then i would take lollipop/milli 12" over the singles off graduation

idk if this means anything but i like carter III singles more in the context of the album than as just radio songs, but i feel the opposite way abt graduation singles

i dont see why that would be, to me those two tracks are made for radio, huge distinctive songs that ive been hearing out of every car window for the past month

the Carter III singles still really feel like mediocre tracks transformed into event records by career momentum, I wouldn't rate any of them up there w/ my favorite recent Wayne singles (Stuntin Like My Daddy, Hustler Muzik, various collabs, etc.).

the Carter III singles still really feel like mediocre tracks transformed into event records by career momentum

i was going to pose this chicken v. egg question in here but i didnt know if anyone cared. did "lollipop" push wayne up to the heights that he is at now (at least the final push) or was his first single (be it "got money" or something we can conjure up that doesn't exist and never will) always going to be a huge hit that went straight to the top of the charts?

im sure the correct answer is a little bit of both but that's an unsatisfying conclusion, so i'd probably lean towards the side that says wayne was always going to hit the top regardless (even though i didnt believe it at the time)

theyre both kinda bad :[
but weezy > kanye easy

although i do appreciate kanye for the kids walking around broadway with those slotted akira shades looking like idiots, A+ dude!

I think whatever his lead single was would've been big, but I have to say it was smart of him to go kinda left-field/pop with it even though I don't really like "Lollipop," he could've done well with a "Stuntin With My Daddy"-type banger but probably not as well. (xpost)

yeah 'some dude' otm

except i like lollipop, but the part about it earning its spot is pretty otm

This is very white versus black.

-- Popture, Thursday, 19 June 2008 19:04 (38 minutes ago) Link

^^^^^^^^^ fuckin guy

Kung Fu Panda is also very white versus black.

It's easy to think Wayne is the greatest thing ever because of the things he is good at, namely similes. And then you hear that song with Wayne and Jay Z together and realize that there are a million other elements to a good flow that Wayne lacks and Jay Z has mastered. Still, I do love Wayne's stream of nonsense. Lil Wayne is kind of like if all of Bob Dylan's songs were I shall be free # 10

no homo quote of the year:Cory Gunz killed it – just his delivery, man. From top to bottom…he just crushed it. A lot of that motivation, I think, comes from him being on the track with Wayne though. Going behind Wayne like that boosts up ya confidence.

is this "so not gonna happen" Wayne, or someone else?

amazingly, I think there are more Kanye songs I like (and that's still only six or seven)

Going behind Wayne like that boosts up ya confidence.

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This is very white versus black.

-- Popture, Thursday, 19 June 2008 19:04 (1 hour ago) Link

Kindly go fuck yourself.

idk if this means anything but i like carter III singles more in the context of the album than as just radio songs, but i feel the opposite way abt graduation singles

-- J0rdan S., Thursday, June 19, 2008 12:19 PM (Thursday, June 19, 2008 12:19 PM) Bookmark Link

I feel completely the inverse. "Lollipop" and "A Milli" are better single-qua-singles than anything on Graduation, but all those Graduation singles sound tremendous on the album.

Wayne doing serious better than Kanye

think I'm w/the lex on this one

Weezy easy. Every Kanye song (though not his beats) feels like he's *trying* really hard to produce a big, likeable, vaguely humorous, hit. Several big singles ("stronger," "diamonds") are abysmal. Weezy, however, has pop star charisma without appearing to try so hard, and just sounds damned good.

I HAVE to know why people love Weezy so much. He's an arsehole and I fail to see his 'music talent' aside from being occasionally witty. I may be a bit bitter because I used to think he was fit back in the day when no one cared...
ALSO Kanye is really much more a reflection of today's hip hop in terms of style etc but harks back to older eras with his refs and samples and the humor in his music. He has been trying too hard of late but I love Flashing Lights.

"you just like fritos/ im tryin to lay" is the one hot line i think

This could be the Bloodhound Gang.

OTM

i just realized that Lil Wayne still hasn't topped "Shooter," i don't think. if that song is as good as i remember it being.

Automatic thread bump. This poll is closing tomorrow.

i'm white btw

fuck man, me too

who knew

I was secretly hoping this was going to be Kanye vs......

http://www.themissionuk.com/archive/88-89/slides/wayne-bogarts2cinncinatti88.jpg

... in which case WAYNE WINS!

i'm with lex

http://i191.photobucket.com/albums/z214/13LILY_DANIELA03/LiL-Wayne_Guitar-psd4373.png

... in which case WAYNE WINS!

fuckin' Wayne and his guitar. at least Andre learned some chords!

jay-z learned "wonderwall"

it would've been funnier if Jay came out and played a solo over "Leather So Soft"

someone should do some bizarro "Lil Wayne shreds" youtube videos and overdub someone who can play.

or "eddie van halen shreds" youtube videos and overdub them with lil wayne playing

uh, i thought that was what they already did

oh

as you can tell i don't search "eddie van halen shreds" very often

Guess whoes back talking shit this mutha fuckin faggot is a mutha fuckin bitch saying he hates rap with a passion then all I got to say is fuck you you mutha fuckin bitch I fukin say alot of curse words because I fuckin hate when you start hating on rap if anybody gots a problem with the way I think then you could find a fuckin short peir and take a mutha fuckin walk I hope you fuckin die a long and painful death you fuckin bitch
later you mutha fuckin haters word to your mutha fuckin mutha

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Kanye Wayne Shepherd

Automatic thread bump. This poll's results are now in.

I have a beef against Kanye, based entirely on Bonnaroo. Some bullshit.

this thread is sub-kayne

yeah good work at the end here

kayne west - get well soon

Public Enemy vs. Public Library

I lol'd

these poll results = crazy talk

bullshit poll results.

i'm okay with 'em

hah if this poll was run this year it'd need a tertiary "fuck 'em both" option

these guys are both american treasures. kanye is the most important recording artist of the 21st century. i have no idea what that claim means or what the criteria would be to support it but it feels right.

is he ?

maybe the most important american recording artist treesh, not sure if you have enough expertise with the recorded output of the other couple of hundred countries

such as the nakhchivan autonomous republic

Treeshus

kanye is probably not too popular in the nakhchivan autonomous republic considering he is engaged to an armenian and the azeri majority population of nakhchivan have been involved in vicious wars with the armenians during the last couple of centuries, but they would still probably admit the synth parts of his last album are better than anything nakhchivanian music has recently offered [citation needed]

we like all kinds of music
but

i think in the future wayne's event rap is gonna be less irritating than kanye's event rap

― and what, Thursday, June 19, 2008 11:07 AM (5 years ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

this kinda holds up but kinda doesn't? the marketing and reception of yeezus alone was more antagonizing than that of all weezy's tapes and albums combined, but in the counterfactual where wayne is actually still popular i'm not sure about that.

Wayne's rapping his ass off lately

people're gonna nitpick/hold him to a certain standard/oh he's not REALLY that good generalist critics r dumb but it's true

even tho wayne is a shell of a shell of a shell of himself i think i would still vote wayne