POLLUS GEI - Best Amon Düül II release

It's pretty clear which will be #1

I'm more interested in what will be #2.

Yeti followed by Phallus Dei if I was voting, but I am guessing that Wolf City will be #2 in the poll.

and yet, four votes in total.

(I'd voteYeti, but it's the only one I've got)

I thought 'Lemminge' was the accepted "other one to get"

... dunno about that. "Yeti" 1st and "Wolf City" 2nd is right, when all is said and done.

since I am just getting to know this group belatedly the poll results & comments will be my consumer guide.

vote carefully.

I never listen to sides 3 and 4 of Yeti but I jam Wolf City from beginning to end time and time again. Lemmings is a mess.

I never listen to sides 3 and 4 of Yeti

Madman

BO-RING

I'll trot out my standard issue minority opinion; yeti's great but live in london is what I listen to more than any other, it brings the rock.

now you will know where that 1 vote came from.

I had a cd of Live in London that sounded terrible. What format of the album have you got?

yeti >= tanz > wolf city >>>>>>>>> who cares what else phallus dei is lame

Here is likely the only vote for "Made In Germany."

DIVISIVE POLL

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I had a cd of Live in London that sounded terrible. What format of the album have you got?

it's the reish on repertoire. haven't heard the newer version on revisited.

http://www.discogs.com/release/928292

I think mine was Captain Trip or something. The Repertoire reissues that I've heard all sound excellent. There have been some really terrible sounding cd reissues of this stuff over the years.

I had the version on UA. It was OK.

coleman - in order:

Yeti
Wolf City
Phallus Dei
Carnival In Babylon

If you like those, you'll be pretty disappointed in everything that came after. I'd stop there.

Also, for curios, check out the Amon Duul I album too

Viva La Trance is good, though.

And which Amon Duul album do you mean?
Psychedelic Underground is great, so is Para Dies Warts Duul.
There are a lot of gems in the Amon Duul mine.

My top 2 remain "Yeti" and Wolf City". "Phallus Dei" seems to get less impressive the longer the album goes on. Agree that "Lemmings" is a mess, but it's still better than "Carnival", which has always struck me as a bit feeble - I'd probably sooner listen to "Vive la Trance" than either and, actually, I probably would listen more to "Made In Germany"! "Hijack" is pretty crap. Never heard anything else. Oh, "Lemmingmania" has some OK, but not startlingly brilliant, singles and b-sides on it.

I think a lot of post Wolf City albums are slept on. They're not as good as the earlier ones, but none of them are bad.

Late 70s AD2 >>>> Late 70s Can, for instance

I do stop at Vortex, tho

"Late 70s AD2 >>>> Late 70s Can, for instance"

Damning with faint praise there if you ask me.

Well, yeah.

Later AD2 albums aren't solid, but each has at least 2 great songs.

Best Of Post Wolf City comp time!(?)

"Kirk Morgan" from '78's Only Human is one of those tracks. it's waay ahead of its time as far as use of electronics in a dance fashion. It's quite different than Moroder's work at the time, and there's a lot going on in that track as far as genre-mashing that no one could have probably predicted.

Late 70s AD2 >>>> Late 70s Can, for instance

No way, I love "Saw Delight"

Nada Moonshine

Someone defend this.

Defend "Hijack" being better than "Soon Over Babaluma", or, like, in the same universe as

haha, I'm not going to do that, but I'll defend anything up to Vortex being better than Saw Delight, Out Of Reach, and Can (Self titled).

Hijack is pleasant psych pop guitar album, not really proggy at all -- at least if you pretend it's a totally different band than the one who made Yeti or Tanz. Soon Over Babaluma is a better album, but I listen to Hijack more.

De Guadaloop is a highlight, as well as I Can't Wait, both parts.

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Phallus Dei remains my favourite, especially in its original cover: http://static.rateyourmusic.com/album_images/s689634.jpg

It becomes more difficult to more I listen to Phallus and Wolf City, as I'm really coming around to those albums, and Renita rocks on both of those far more relatively...

but Tanz is tugs at my heart. It's not a good album to cherry pick moments on. But the construction of that album is so influential to me and serves as the best role model on how to make a multi-part song, period. The end of Restless with the creeping rock groove and the funny voices and then the horrifying "AAAAAAAAACK"... "EEEEEEEEEEEAAAAAAAAAACH" out of fucking nowhere is one of my favorite rock moments ever.. and this is within the final 30 seconds of the major opus too. (Sorry for the spoiler, lol.)

went with Yeti, still have no idea what the consensus choice is supposed to be but from the looks of this thread, it's Yeti? I just really love that song "Archangel's Thunderbird"; there's a great video of it too.

I like the 1st 5 a lot and could have a different favourite album each week. Made In Germany is also good.
But Yeti gets my vote.

And I love the later song Metropolis I bought a greatest hits cd about 10 years ago just for that song.

to clarify, well yeah, Yeti is fucking amazing. Tanz just beats it in a photo finish for me, that's all. Phallus Dei and Wolf City are just a second behind each.

Also worth mentioning: of all the 18 minute improv pieces between Yeti and Tanz, the single one on Tanz,"The Marylin Monroe Memorium Church", beats any of the three on Yeti, even though all four of them are great. ("Sandoz In The Rain" is a bit more meh than the others tho.)

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PWNZ DER LEMMINGE!!!!1

http://www.furious.com/perfect/amonduulII.html

John Weinzierl is interviewed and goes through all the AD2 albums up to and including Wolf City.

best thread title for a poll yet

Is anything else on Only Human as good as "Kirk Morgan???" Because if so I'm totally buying it

carnival in babylon was such a letdown for a first buy from these guys

xpost - not *as* good unfortunately, but there are other good ones too. "Spaniards and Spacemen" is awesome.

Later when we recorded Phallus Dei, the first Amon Duul album, this former producer realized that Phallus Dei was a major seller. His greed told him to get the useless tapes back from the dungeon and every time we released an album, he cut an album's worth of those tapes and brought it to the market to use our success. Unfortunately, we were too inexperienced then to stop this, and so we have a big pile of rubbish being released as Amon Duul. The sad thing is that some people like this shit.

Ouch! No love for Paradieswarts Duul?

I think he means Disaster and Experimente...

Probably right.

Well, John Weinzierl plays on "Paradieswarts Duul", so I imagine he doesn't think it's shit, I think it's all the other albums he considers shit! I didn't even know Peter Leopold was dead :(

Q: Is the remaster of Phallus Dei a huge departure from the previous reissue? The one I have sounds like total garbage but I don't want to buy another one if it's not substantially improved.

phallus dei deserves its own thread, no? my god "luzifers ghiliom" is absurd majestic

carnival in babylon is so great, strange to see it lagging far behind WC in this poll

http://www.freecovers.net/preview/0/9b84de29d9da88abe1797f0882c80849/big.jpg

I got this one recently, I think. it .. might be my favourite!

phallus dei deserves its own thread, no? my god "luzifers ghiliom" is absurd majestic

― reggie (qualmsley), Wednesday, May 9, 2018 10:11 AM (one hour ago) Bookmark

first of all yes -- the first like 2 min of that song are delicious, then imo it goes off the rails in a direction i don't really enjoy as much. i love the drums in the first portion an absurdly large amount though.
it starts off so promisingly and then...chicka chicka :-/ i just want the monster groove, lol
i like the album as a whole, but can't quite shake off a negative vibe from the title

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SfEsNrM2z3s

for sure the first few times i heard it i felt that but the more i've listened the more i appreciate the prog scatting 'chicketachicketachicketydow' before the amazing break a la "sound chaser"'s 'chachachachacha' -- give me a land! it's going to be weird! -- as the chorus to the national anthem of krautrocksampleria. the places it goes are where the court of the crimson king only hinted

ZEY BROKE MY MAGIC STICK!

i do like "it's going to be weird"

i just don't really need to hear that part of the song. i am there for the jam.

the last 10 minutes of the title track are amazing. I've yet to find anything that sounds quite like it.

"restless skylight - transistor - child" might be their best sidelong epic

"Vive La Trance" is my fave... luv that slick, sinewy, sophisticated sound. YMMV, tho.

(Further to the above -- "Trap"->"Pig Man" is such a killer one-two punch of pop/rock jams!)