LODI

we like to party

we don't cause trouble

Ethan, I googled that and came up with KoRn lyrics. Not exactly what I was thinking about.

Search: Flying Burrito Brothers Gilded Palace of Sin (pretty much the whole album has that vibe)

Burrito Brothers are close - definitely plaintive - but I hear them as more of a psyche-country band(about which there's a thread or two floating about). Lodi's much more straight ahead.

I don't really here that much more psych in Burritos vs. CCR, but okay.

I'd say that CCR's country-ish side has more in common with Buck Owens than the Burritos and their ilk. There's a tightness there that other country rockers missed.

Lots of old Hank Williams tunes, I guess. Pavement's "Range Life", obviously.

rick nelson/ stone canyon band?

some stuff off After the Gold Rush

http://www.google.com/search?q=lucinda+williams

http://www.google.com/search?q=iris+dement

tracer is so wrong

??? explain yourself mr que, plaintive rock don't get much plaintiver than lucinda williams.

Lucinda Williams sounds nothing like Lodi. well okay, they sound a little similar, but i don't think a little similar is what KINKKONGGODZILLA is going for

i mean have you ever heard CREEDENCE before man?????

Well, nothing sounds like Creedence

The Lucinda I have heard (very little) doesn't sound exactly like Creedence, but I could imagine her having a song or two that have that Lodi thing going on. Can you think of a specific song or two, TH?

They all sound the same!

Just like Creedence! (kidding) (kind of)

Doesn't "Who'll Stop the Rain" sound pretty much like Lodi?

I bet you'd like Dwight Yoakam, kkvg

there's an expanded, remastered edition of "Guitars, Cadillacs, Etc Etc" which is pretty essential stuff

Doesn't "Who'll Stop the Rain" sound pretty much like Lodi?

I was thinking more of "Have You Ever Seen the Rain"...? Buck Owens definitely a good ref point but in general he's way cheerier and bouncier than CCR.

Haha yes I always confuse those two

yeah, Owens is definitely more peppy -- but i just hear a similarly tight sound there -- really repetitive rhythm guitars, hooks, etc.

Bakersfield, El Cerrito - same difference

I know it's an anachronism to refer to Hank Williams as country-rock, but I do here a similar tightness, economy of means, repetition of hooks, etc. in his plaintive honky-tonky numbers to "Lodi" - just add a steady rock beat and you'd be most of the way there.

The Band - "It Makes No Difference"

it sounds like Sloan's "the lines you amend"

probably some Neil Young that sounds like this

"Who'll Stop The Rain" is in the same vein. "Lodi" is different from most other CCR songs because it's a first-person narrative instead of an observational song.

Though I guess "Proud Mary" is that too, eh?

? Fogerty wrote a lot of first-person narratives. Love songs, on the other hand, that's something he never did.

"Someday Never Comes", "Green River", "Born on the Bayou", etc all first person

there was some great thread on ILM where it was discussed how "Lodi" is bleak in a uniquely American way

It would be interesting to do a list thread of songs about someone being stuck somewhere they don't want to be. I guess it would be a long list.

Though I guess "Lodi" is only partly about being stuck in a physical place (the town of Lodi, in the song) and mainly about the metaphysical sense of being stuck in a music career that's going nowhere, playing to drunk people who aren't listening, etc.

Lodi is based on Fogerty's days as a minor league baseball player and he dreaded playing out there.

INDIE FACT: Stephen Malkmus and Spiral Stairs went to High School in Lodi (Linden HS) before SM got expelled and sent to boarding school.

Lodi is based on Fogerty's days as a minor league baseball player and he dreaded playing out there.

no i think you're thinking about "old man down the road."

Or "Centerfield"

No, I'm talking about Lodi fuckface. I saw him in concert and he told us all a story about the shithole known as Lodi.

how come danzig never covered lodi? works for him too.

according to wiki:

"A Creedence Clearwater Revival song was named for Lodi, CA, although the songwriter (John Fogerty) admits he had never actually visited the city and simply thought it was "the coolest sounding name"

LOLODI

I <3 wikipedia

Residents are proud to be ‘Stuck in Lodi’

By Ross Farrow
News-Sentinel Staff Writer

Lodi was put on the map in a big way in 1969, when Creedence Clearwater Revival recorded a hit song lamenting being “stuck” in what others perceive as livable, lovable Lodi.

But residents don’t seem to be offended by the tune.

“I take absolutely no offense to it,” said Tammy Jones, who has lived in Lodi and Galt for more than 30 years and currently lives in Wallace. “I think it’s a catchy tune.”

“When you hear it, the words go through your head for awhile,” said Lodi Mayor Larry Hansen, who moved to Lodi in 1970 and is the city’s former police chief. “I’ve always enjoyed it.”

Rumors have persisted for years that the band got stranded in Lodi on a Greyhound bus, in a car or via some other mode of transportation, thus inspiring the song.

However, John Fogerty, who was lead singer and writer for Creedence Clearwater Revival at the time, says that’s not what happened.

“The first time I ever heard the word ‘Lodi,’ I thought it was the coolest sounding name, so I saved it for the longest time,” Fogerty wrote on a Web site called Creedence Online.

“So I sat down and wrote about being on the road, being a musician — not the happy, glamorous part. Rather, I projected myself ahead maybe 10 years, as a country musician singing that minor hit I had 10 years ago,” Fogerty wrote.

“There I was,” he said. “I wasn’t in Los Angeles. I’m not even in Cucamonga. I’m way out in Lodi! The song went from ‘Lodi’ to ‘Oh Lord, stuck in Lodi, again,’ not a happy thought.”

City Councilwoman Susan Hitchcock, who lived in Cupertino when “Lodi” became a hit, said she loved Creedence Clearwater Revival. And she isn’t offended by the lyrics either.

“Thirty-five years ago, there probably wasn’t alot going on,” Hitchcock said. “Back then, they might have been stuck in Lodi. Today, when they visit Lodi, they will be stuck on Lodi.”

That’s Hitchcock’s theme when she promotes the town.

“Anyone who lives in Lodi is stuck on Lodi, not stuck in Lodi,” she said.

Officials from the Lodi Chamber of Commerce and the Lodi Conference and Visitors Bureau hear the “stuck in Lodi” line on a regular basis from out-of-towners.

Nancy Beckman, who heads the conference and visitors bureau, says she hears about it when she goes to trade shows throughout California.

“People see us; they break out in song and dance,” Beckman said.
Like other Lodi residents, Beckman isn’t insulted about Fogerty claiming to be “stuck.” “Even though a lot of people perceive the song as being negative, it has gotten our name out there,” Beckman said. “It’s a way to open up a conversation.”

Ray Crow, who works in administrative services for the chamber, echoed Beckman’s statements.
“I tell them that all the time. It’s our claim to fame,” Crow said. “We’re stuck in Lodi happily.”

Lodi resident Tanya Hernandez isn’t offended by the song, either.
“I see it as an interesting positive,” Hernandez said. “Kids feel they are stuck in whatever town they live in.”

Crystal D’Angelo, a 16-year Lodi resident, enjoys Lodi, but she sees some truth to the lyrics.
“You can relate to it, especially if you’re middle or lower class,” D’Angelo said. “You’re stuck in Lodi. You can’t leave Lodi.”

Kelly Vandenburg, a lifelong Lodi resident, enjoys the song as well. In fact, she finds it a useful tool.
“I think it helps me reference it to people on the phone,” Vandenburg said. “They say, ‘What is it? Loo-dee? Law-dee? Low-dee?’ ”

Beckman looks at the glass as being half full instead of half empty.
“You have to take anything that can be perceived as negative and make it as a positive,” Beckman said. “We say we’re happy to be stuck in Lodi.”

how come danzig never covered lodi? works for him too.

Haha. TS: Lodi, CA vs. Lodi, NJ

OK, I was totally off the money about the first-person narrative thing.

Then again, I also thought "Lodi" was about the maximum-security prison in Lodi, Ohio.

IDOL LODI

Aha! or B.S.?

Songwriter John Fogerty wrote the song about being trapped in a town called "Lodi". Although Lodi, California is about 75 miles from Fogerty's hometown of El Cerrito, Contra Costa County, California, he has admitted in interviews that he had never actually been there. The song's title is from Lodi, Ohio which Fogerty had visited in his youth. In fact, an early demo of the song recorded by Fogerty reveals the original lyric, "Just about a year ago/I set out on the road/Seeking my fame and fortune/driving through Ohio."

He was briefly sent to the WCW Power Plant to train before making his first WCW appearance at World War 3 on November 23, 1997 under the name Lodi (an anagram of the surname of Billy Idol, whom he was thought to resemble).[3]

In June 1999 WCW jobber Lenny Lane persuaded Cain to team with him as the West Hollywood Blondes, a gay Californian duo with pink trunks and flamboyant haircuts who were later revealed to be brothers.[5][2]

“Thirty-five years ago, there probably wasn’t alot going on,” Hitchcock said. “Back then, they might have been stuck in Lodi. Today, when they visit Lodi, they will be stuck on Lodi.”

Classic

I thought this said LORDI

It doesn't exactly sound like the other Creedence songs, does it?

Uhhhhh, yes it does

... well they don't sound exactly like it, except for "Have You Ever Seen the Rain", which does sound exactly like it!

Well, "Have You Ever Seen the Rain" has a chorus, "Lodi" doesn't.

"Long As I Can See the Light" feels pretty similar in tone, if not instrumentation.

Also: early Springsteen.

That's more "Wrote a Song For Everyone"

I absolutely, 100% concede that "Have You Ever Seen the Rain" is pretty much the same.

"Lodi" kinda sounds like the Dead circa 1970-72 or so.

except its better-written than any dead song

we like to party

― and what, Tuesday, June 24, 2008 10:39 PM (ten years ago)

lol

joe Walsh - life of illusion

Stuck

This song must have one of the most ironic key changes of all time. Usually, when a song switches up a tone, it's an infusion of energy and positivity - here, on the third verse, it's just a gateway to more stasis, frustration, and futility. The key change nonetheless works to emphasize that hopelessness, somehow.

(ironic in that it underlines the drama of the song, not that it is making fun of the musical technique of changing key itself, like, the coda of "Stand" by R.E.M.)

I have an LP by a band called Lodi. ex-members of the Knickerbockers of "Lies" fame. wondered if they might've been named after the CCR song but no, they were named after the Lodi in New Jersey.

If springsteen wrote this song it would have been called “Teaneck”

2) He makes Lodi sound like some outer plane of hell where crushed dreams and boredom reign.

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Someone I vaguely knew in Fairbanks once referred to Fairbanks as "a hotbed of mediocrity" and I think Lodi captures that feeling really well - the sense that mediocrity is a place and you are trapped there forever.

One thing I think makes it work so well is the sprung rhythm of "Oh Lord, stuck in Lodi again," where there aren't as many syllables in the line as you expect there to be, so he has to hold the stresses for longer than you expect and there's this weird missing-stair feeling to it.

I have never been to Lodi, but it doesn't seem like the worst place to be stuck.

Then how would you know

It seems like a nice little town in the Central Valley. I mean, you could be stuck in Fresno.

That's part of the pain in the song - because everywhere, there are bars full of drunk people, and this place isn't exceptional. Lodi isn't Desolation Row, it's just a regular town that the singer condemns for not being "back where I live".

Freddie King does a pretty good soul version of Lodi on one of his Shelter albums. Worth giving a listen as he makes it his version with a different feel.

i tried but i just can't with that

Lodi isn't Desolation Row, it's just a regular town that the singer condemns for not being "back where I live".

I don't think that's all he is condemning it for. It's the place where his hopes and plans washed up, so he needs to get out not just because it is Lodi but because it's a constant reminder of his failure.

^OTM, explains why this song hits me so hard and I've never been to Lodi either

The real Lodi is the Lodi in your soul, where your personal faults keep you trapped in a Samsara-esque loop of despair and futility. Anyway, GUITAR SOLO. And then KEY CHANGE.

Keep on chooglin', my friends.

Stuck in Cerritos again.

*El Cerrito

complete predictable ethan energy for him to try and derail the thread into "Lodi Dodi" just two posts in

Stephen Malkamus went to high school in Lodi, think he might still hold some track and field records there

I lived in Lodi for 9 months recently. Tiny cute downtown, has at least one killer brewery (High Windows), rent was kinda high, dozens and dozens of wineries making Zin which is not for me.

I Left My Wallet in Lodi

In an alternate timeline, the narrator simply decides to settle down in Lodi.

He meets a nice waitress, settles down, geets married, raises kids. He has a regular bar gig; sets up a little side business growing avocados.

After a while he takes an unpleasant trip to Illinois, but once he gets home he can lock the front door and settle in on the back porch. Doot doot doo, etc.

*gets, urgh

Stuck in New Port Richey

there is a lodi in new jersey too. the real life "bada bing" from the sopranos is there. due to the curious geography of bergen county, it borders like seven towns.

omg duh. glen danzig is from there too.

Which one has a Greyhound station?

35 years ago today:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1989_Stockton_schoolyard_shooting