The admirable Mary suggested on another thread that Morrissey should record a whole LP of covers, a la Bryan Ferry. I agreed and found myself thinking he should record a whole LP of Stephin Merritt songs. So - which ones? In what order? What will the arrangements and interpretations be like?
― the pinefox, Thursday, 26 June 2008 11:27 (seventeen years ago)
"No one will ever love you honestly, oh no no noooooo"
― Mark G, Thursday, 26 June 2008 11:29 (seventeen years ago)
Stevie T once called that Superior Pet Shop Boys ... but you're right - it works!
― the pinefox, Thursday, 26 June 2008 11:31 (seventeen years ago)
I wonder what else Morrissey and Merritt have in common!
― Party Sausage, Thursday, 26 June 2008 11:40 (seventeen years ago)
Irish blood
― the pinefox, Thursday, 26 June 2008 11:48 (seventeen years ago)
English hearts?
― Party Sausage, Thursday, 26 June 2008 11:49 (seventeen years ago)
They hate it when their friends are successful?
― Mark G, Thursday, 26 June 2008 11:50 (seventeen years ago)
His mother was a German-Irish member of the 1960s counter-culture, and was an amateur songwriter and guitar player. She brought him up within the doctrine of Tibetan Buddhism. He did not know his father, Scott Fagan, a folk singer. http://wiki.pinkpaper.com/stephinmerritt.ashx
― the pinefox, Thursday, 26 June 2008 11:50 (seventeen years ago)
"The Desperate Things You Do" would be so perfect. I am humming it in my head right now and it's blowing that head's mind.
― Savannah Smiles, Thursday, 26 June 2008 13:33 (seventeen years ago)
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lol racism obviously
― banriquit, Thursday, 26 June 2008 13:37 (seventeen years ago)
Jesus, that article is fucking astonishing. I have acted as an apologist in the past for both Sasha Frere-Jones and Jessica Hopper on occasion, but I had never read about that stuff. They both come off as complete and utter idiots.
― Savannah Smiles, Thursday, 26 June 2008 14:51 (seventeen years ago)
They both come off as complete and utter idiots.
Alert the media! Oh, wait ...
― Allen, Thursday, 26 June 2008 15:32 (seventeen years ago)
Jeezus, it is indeed astonishing. It makes me angry, in fact - a dreadful 'when did you stop beating your wife?' quality, an utterly spurious accusation that (given the seriousness of the accusation) the accuser had no business making - just stupidity and spite. Absolutely diabolical.
― the pinefox, Thursday, 26 June 2008 15:40 (seventeen years ago)
Anyway,
1 Desperate Things You Made Me Do 2 Candy 3 No One Will Ever Love You 4 Luckiest Guy On The Lower East Side
- god, this is already the best Morrissey record since Strangeways. How about a curveball: 'Love In The Shadows'?
― the pinefox, Thursday, 26 June 2008 15:41 (seventeen years ago)
Full Circle Department: the Playlist Merritt picked (that SFJ complained was too white) not only reviews Morrissey's I Am the Quarry but quotes the line "I've been dreaming of a time when to be English is not to be baneful, to be standing by the flag not feeling shameful, racist or martial."
― dad a, Thursday, 26 June 2008 16:24 (seventeen years ago)
"Personally, I find acoustic guitars depressing."
― the pinefox, Thursday, 26 June 2008 16:48 (seventeen years ago)
Acoustic Gutiar, how lovely you are With your inlays of mother of pearl Be a good guitar and you could go far Just bring me back my girl
ow: these folks http://www.sing365.com/music/lyric.nsf/Acoustic-Guitar-lyrics-The-Magnetic-Fields/1B17A2D8B529169548256E8E000C832A couldn't spell guitar, not me, honest
― the pinefox, Thursday, 26 June 2008 16:49 (seventeen years ago)
I'm not sure anything will beat "Meaningless" for this (the "ha ha ha"!), but "Swinging London" and "Aging Spinsters" come close.
― nabisco, Thursday, 26 June 2008 17:28 (seventeen years ago)
Just not "Take Ecstasy with Me," Morrissey'd be chewing scenery on that one.
I'd like to hear the Magnetic Fields do "Suedehead".
"I Don't Believe In The Sun" would be too dead-on for Moz. "When I'm Out of Town", though...
― Eazy, Thursday, 26 June 2008 17:29 (seventeen years ago)
Ooh, yes ... and 'Ageing Spinsters' could actually be M. I've always thought 'Swinging London' an overrated song, though.
― the pinefox, Thursday, 26 June 2008 17:47 (seventeen years ago)
As You Turn To Go Strange Powers
― rogermexico., Thursday, 26 June 2008 17:49 (seventeen years ago)
I know I'm not supposed to say I'm sorry I know you've had more loves than Mata Hari But you know you're the star of my life story And I'm so sorry
Dude would slay this.
― rogermexico., Thursday, 26 June 2008 17:50 (seventeen years ago)
I'm Lonely And I Love It (full orchestra) I Thought You Were My Boyfriend (club mix)
― dad a, Thursday, 26 June 2008 17:57 (seventeen years ago)
Okay, this really needs to happen. I'll add "Just Like a Movie Star."
― Vaguely Threatening CAPTCHAs, Thursday, 26 June 2008 20:16 (seventeen years ago)
"The Death of Ferdinand de Saussure"
I'm already hearing the guitar riff replacing synth strings/bassline intro in my head. And it sounds amazing!
― daavid, Thursday, 26 June 2008 20:39 (seventeen years ago)
okay anyone who has a song with that title deserves whatever's coming to them.
― banriquit, Thursday, 26 June 2008 20:39 (seventeen years ago)
whatever's coming to Merritt = imperishable plaudits and accolades forever in the songwriters' hall of fame.
― the pinefox, Thursday, 26 June 2008 21:04 (seventeen years ago)
Funny thing is how almost *every* suggestion on the thread sounds inspired! Makes me think there is a certain natural coherence to the idea (maybe obvious in one way, but not obvious enough for it to have actually happened yet), and it really *should* happen.
― the pinefox, Thursday, 26 June 2008 21:06 (seventeen years ago)
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mmm
― banriquit, Thursday, 26 June 2008 21:56 (seventeen years ago)
I got all dressed up in dreams And I waited by the door But you never even called To tell me you don't love me anymore
― Michael F Gill, Thursday, 26 June 2008 22:16 (seventeen years ago)
The first magnetic field song I heard was "I don't want to get over you"
That one.
― Mark G, Friday, 27 June 2008 09:58 (seventeen years ago)
if i make it tonight it'll be all right it'll make a good song or something i've been trying to give myself reasons to live and i really can't think of one thing
i drive around, i walk around in circles 'cause i've got no sense of direction and i guess i've got no sense at all
[chorus:] all the umbrellas in london couldn't stop this rain and all the dope in new york couldn't kill this pain and all the money in tokyo couldn't make me stay all the umbrellas in london couldn't stop this rain
i don't cry anymore, i walk out the door and i usually keep on walking i will sit in the bar where the cocktails are but i really don't feel like talking
i lie around and let the darkness fall 'cause i've got a sense of perfection and nothing makes much sense at all
― the pinefox, Friday, 27 June 2008 10:53 (seventeen years ago)
'Just Like A Movie Star' might actually be the finest suggestion yet; I can really hear M delivering all of this:
-- I spent all day dreaming of the way I'd like to hold you So I got absolutely nothing done but it was so much fun And have I told you how beautiful you are tonight? Just like a movie star
Quit your job, dear Then you can stay here at home beside me You be James Dean, I'll be Sal Mineo You can hide me
How beautiful you are tonight Just like a movie star
― the pinefox, Friday, 27 June 2008 10:55 (seventeen years ago)
"Deep Sea Diving Boots" would be incredible done Meat is Murder-style, Marr lixx & reverb.
[i]You didn't have to say that I'm no good, 'cause I know. There's no point pointing pistols at me now, I'll just go. I never should have asked you to be kind, but I'm slow. And I'm sorry, but how can I get to you Stuck in my fifty-pound lead boots, Stuck in my deep sea diving suit?
I never thought you'd turn on me, 'cos you're my best friend. You say I never offered you a thing in the end. And now you wouldn't trust me with a grain of sand. I'm sorry, but how can I get to you Stuck in my fifty-pound lead boots, Stuck in my deep sea diving suit?
― cee-oh-tee-tee, Friday, 27 June 2008 13:33 (seventeen years ago)
('Suit') -- you don't mean like the title track, no? - but like 'I Want The One I Can't Have', or something? Not sure what the paradigm would be, really; I'm finding it hard to think of a Smiths track at the same speed as this TMF one.
I can only really agree that anything ever would be incredible done with Marr lixx and reverb.
― the pinefox, Friday, 27 June 2008 14:28 (seventeen years ago)
Thinking of M. singing these lyrics brings out a morose self-pitying dimension that he would highlight but that never feels so strong for me when Merritt (or other TMF singer) is singing them.
I have always loved the line "There's no point pointing pistols at me now, I'll just go" - not sure why 'pistols', but I guess the repetition of 'point' is what he was really pursuing.
― the pinefox, Friday, 27 June 2008 14:29 (seventeen years ago)
jangly "Cemetry Gates" style version of "Born On A Train"
― Curt1s Stephens, Friday, 27 June 2008 14:56 (seventeen years ago)
in general I think Merritt's approach to music is very dissimilar from Morrissey's approach to music so this is interesting to me
― Curt1s Stephens, Friday, 27 June 2008 14:59 (seventeen years ago)
http://www.sendspace.com/file/rgqhyj
In an old silverline I was yours, you were mine I was hoarse, you were mean We designed drum machines
But every day in every way Im falling out of love with you Every kiss means less and less Im falling out of love with you Every hour kills a flower Im falling out of love with you You just bore me more and more Im falling out of love with you
They made sounds much like drums I was young you were dumb Now youre older and im wiser We design synthesizers
― Curt1s Stephens, Friday, 27 June 2008 15:00 (seventeen years ago)
Haha Pinefox. You know what is more likely to happen? A covers album that collects all of the previously released covers, with an odd previously unreleased live version or two thrown in for good measure. Much cheaper that way!
― Virginia Plain, Friday, 27 June 2008 15:38 (seventeen years ago)
Supposedly when The Smiths started out they worked on a cover of Marianne Faithfull's "Summer Nights" - http://youtube.com/watch?v=rVtSTyWeKZc - which you can easily imagine in a Merritty pastiche...
― Stevie T, Friday, 27 June 2008 15:54 (seventeen years ago)
You're not wrong, Virginia.
― the pinefox, Friday, 27 June 2008 16:39 (seventeen years ago)
This thread is an immense disappointment to me.
― Alba, Friday, 27 June 2008 18:17 (seventeen years ago)
How about "Good Thing I Don't Have Any Feelings"? It would perfectly match the "tragic" nihilistic style of "Last Night I Dreamt that Somebody Loved Me".
― daavid, Friday, 27 June 2008 18:26 (seventeen years ago)
anyone want to reel off a list of songs moz actually has covered, incl live only?
― deeznuts, Friday, 27 June 2008 18:29 (seventeen years ago)
I see what you mean, N.
Don't know that song.
Could be a good list I guess.
― the pinefox, Friday, 27 June 2008 20:38 (seventeen years ago)
I Want A Boy For My Birthday (Marie's The Name) His Latest Flame What's The World Golden Lights Work Is A Four-Letter Word East West Cosmic Dancer Trash That's Entertainment Skin Storm My Insatiable One Interlude Moon River
I have no idea after that :/
― Alba, Friday, 27 June 2008 21:54 (seventeen years ago)
I would be happier if we could combine this with the calypso thread and imagine Morrissey singing Lord Kitchener songs. Lots of them would suit him really well, actually.
― nabisco, Friday, 27 June 2008 22:22 (seventeen years ago)
his cover of cosmic dancer is pretty incredible
he does that 'eeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeuh' thing at the end like he does @ the end of wonderful woman
he'd do a killer moon river i gotta say - did he do any covers on his last tour?
― deeznuts, Friday, 27 June 2008 22:32 (seventeen years ago)
thought of merritt and covers when i first heard Springsteen's "Girls in Their Summer Clothes" on the radio, a merritt-ish song isn't it?
― Sébastien, Friday, 27 June 2008 22:43 (seventeen years ago)
01. All My Little Words 02. Papa Was A Rodeo 03. Come Back From San Francisco (though I can't really hear Moz ever singing 'I miss doing the wild thing with you.") 04. Josephine 05. With Whom To Dance 06. Please Stop Dancing 07. Losing Your Affection 08. i Thought You Were My Boyfriend 09. Too Drunk Too Dream 10. Underwear 12. All The Umbrellas In London 13. When You're Old And Lonely
― undeadsinatra, Saturday, 28 June 2008 07:43 (seventeen years ago)
Following Alba's list...
'Street Life' - Roxy Music 'No One Can Hold A Candle To You'- Raymonde 'Drive-In Saturday'- David Bowie 'Redondo Beach' - Patti Smith 'Nothing Rhymed' - Gilbert O'Sullivan 'You Say You Don't Love Me' - Buzzcocks 'A Song From Under The Floorboards' - Magazine 'Harry Rag' - Kinks
― Stevie T, Saturday, 28 June 2008 12:29 (seventeen years ago)
'A Song From Under The Floorboards' - Magazine
ooh
― energy flash gordon, Sunday, 29 June 2008 01:32 (seventeen years ago)
From True To You (see especially the last line):
How and why do you choose to cover such diverse and intriguing songs as No One Can Hold A Candle To You, Redondo Beach, etc.?
Adele Blackpool, England
Everything has its place and its reason. Certainly, the early Smiths covers, for example 'Work is a four-letter word' and 'Golden lights' were done as acts of playful perversity - they weren't meant to be groundbreaking miracles of sound. And that's usually how it is, just a matter of throwing something unexpected into the mix. 'No One Can Hold a Candle to You' was originally written and sung by James Maker, and we've been good friends now for 30 years. He released 'Born that Way' a couple of years back and that's one of my favorite recordings of all time. As for 'Redondo beach', I've always said how Patti Smith's 'Horses' album changed my life. When I told Patti I had released it as a single she said it wouldn't chart because of the 'Patti Smith curse', but we just missed the top ten by a few copies, even though, as always, zero airplay. I also had it in my mind that the opening line was "let it be known," which it isn't, it's "late afternoon."
I have often planned a covers album, but I always scrap the idea because it seems to be such a standard maneuver now.
― Virginia Plain, Sunday, 29 June 2008 02:37 (seventeen years ago)
"You Say You Don't Love Me" -- Buzzcocks
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JQLFTIphyN8
― Virginia Plain, Thursday, 3 July 2008 03:56 (seventeen years ago)
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― deeznuts, Thursday, 3 July 2008 04:17 (seventeen years ago)