The Why the Fuck Has There Never Been a Thread for Antonio Carlos Jobim thread

well okay I already have the Getz-Gilberto stuff and Black Orpheus but I could listen to this stuff way more than I already do... finding blogs for this kinda thing is sorta um, difficult.

bossa nova: S&D

I think this is the ACJ thread:
bossa nova: S&D

Hi Jordan.

hi

that thread's more general tho - I'm curious about where else to specifically go in Jobim's discography

AntonioCarlosJobim - where to start?

hey now there we go

Stone Flower is so great. Creed Taylor + AC Jobim = aural tranquilizer

kind of off topic, but can anyone recommend some orchestral jazz shit like Stan Getz'z album Focus or those two Steam tracks off of Archie Shepp's Attica Blues

Completely unsearchable, of course.

Jobim/Matita Peres is the one for me. I've nearly played out my copy - lovely, close mic'd versions of "Luiza" and "Aguas De Marco." "Luiza" especially is beyond personal, it cuts right through me. Both sides augmented by lovely instrumental suites. I'm almost certain there's no difference between "Jobim" and "Matita Peres" beyond the covers, but I can't verify that.

Wave seems to be just as amazing, but I haven't spent enough time with it. Get both. They can be had cheaply on vinyl and CD, I think.

i don't know if all the r-share links work from this site, but this is the tip of the jobim iceberg on loronix:

http://loronix.blogspot.com/2006/10/antonio-carlos-jobim-e-vinicius-de.html
http://loronix.blogspot.com/2008/02/antonio-carlos-jobim-billy-blanco.html
http://loronix.blogspot.com/2008/01/antonio-carlos-jobim-tom-jobim-e.html
http://loronix.blogspot.com/2008/01/disco-de-bolso-o-tom-de-antonio-carlos.html
http://loronix.blogspot.com/2006/09/garota-de-ipanema-ost-1967.html

holy zamolians

http://umquetenha.blogspot.com is useful too. The archives along the right side of the page go pretty deep (assuming the links still work).

thx guys

loronix is one of the best music blogs out there period. guy who runs it is a nice guy too. he's like a mutant soundz for brazilian heads

stone flower is great.

loronix is good but i gave up on going there, there was just TOO MUCH for me to process in my lifetime, i always felt like i was getting behind!

I too say Wave and Stone Flower are the best Jobim solo records. I have The Man from Rio set and it's good--I suppose there's an inevitable Muzak factor with Tom Jobim's work under his own name. I wish someone would've made just a piano record with him, since he was a great pianist (shades of Ellington in the covert way he makes it sound easy; but man what a touch he had. And wouldn't that have been a gas in the wake of Jobim and Sinatra (good records there, too)--Tom and the Duke...anyway, I started a thread about the new reissue of Elis & Tom and got a contact name at Verve Records--I plan to ask them what the deal is with the reissue, you know? My fave Jobim moment might be "Useless Landscape," two fucked-up romantics moaning in the most gorgeous way possible...

kind of off topic, but can anyone recommend some orchestral jazz shit like Stan Getz'z album Focus or those two Steam tracks off of Archie Shepp's Attica Blues

http://www.vervemusicgroup.com/artist/releases/default.aspx?pid=10001&aid=2855

the version of "Brazil" on Stone Flower is soooo good.

if you like Stone Flower, definitely check out Wave. one of my all-time favorite albums, especially if i'm going for a drive on a sunny day.

Wave is also a good listen for Ron Carter heads.

I was listening a couple of minutes ago to 'Passarim'. It's sung in English and I think it was released by Verve in the 80s. Although I generally hate the bass high in the mix - it gives a piano-bar feel - in bossa nova records, his harmonies always blow me away.

I also like his voice kind of husky. Beats the shit out of any new singer singing bossa nova in tune

I'm super into this right now
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nCAA2fEHaa4

Didn’t know until recently that “How Insensitive” was based on something by Chopin.

Não tenho tempo para odiar o rock, que é mais velho do que a Bossa Nova.

Didn’t know until recently that “How Insensitive” was based on something by Chopin.

― The Soundtrack of Burl Ives (James Redd and the Blecchs), Sunday, 5 January 2020 15:32 (three years ago) link

Ah yeah, it’s a prelude. I had noticed the similarity but wasn’t sure if it was deliberate.

Prelude No. 4, the same one that inspired the Serge Gainsbourg / Jane Birkin song “Jane B.”

Oh yeah! Don't think I've really listened to that one before.

Also the one that Jack Nicholson plays in Five Easy Pieces which impresses his girlfriend so much

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XL7ppdN4eFc

https://filmthreat.com/reviews/elis-and-tom/

Just saw the new film doc Elis and Tom and it has some great footage of Elis Regina and Tom Jobim recording the album, plus interviews with the musicians and engineers from the record, and interviews with others associated with the album plus Ron Carter, Wayne Shorter, Brazilian journalists and the New York Times Jon Pareles. But the movie is a bit disjointed and doesn't give enough background on Elis and Tom, or enough details on the various songs from the album. But if you're a fan of the album you will still get something out of it. I am not quite as harsh on it as the reviewer for Film Threat. I found it fascinating how the film depicted the creative process at work. Also, it was very interesting how Regina grew to have a grudging respect for Jobim, and how Jobim eventually accepted the pianist/arranger who played on the album plus the occasional use of an electric bass and Fender Rhodes rather than just acoustic instruments. Regina's depression and death at a young age also lent the film a very melancholy aspect, although it is gratifying to see her smile and hug musicians when the songs came together.