Simon Price on the rebirth of disco

It doesn't really say that at all, does it?

I hear Stay Beautiful brought disco back

No wait, I'm thinking of fat girls in shitty make-up

Gluing cardboard fins to yr head is the essence of disco. I believe what Pricey sez.

And, back in the UK, some of the sharper thinkers in the indie sector are ahead of the curve. With their Erol Alkan-produced second album Couples, The Long Blondes have amplified their already-latent disco tendencies to stunning effect, while Franz Ferdinand (surely already pretty disco themselves) toyed with the idea of having their third album produced by Brian Higgins' Xenomania, the team responsible for Girls Aloud's finest moments, among others.

I dunno, it could be a shitload worse, but really to write something about the return of disco and NOT mention DFA is pretty fucking retarded.

The article is complete gibberish.

Has any pop dated so quickly as that of the early noughties?

quietus also has a pretty wack article on funky house. i think they need to stop trying.

quietus, stfu

Or employ writers under the age of 50.

Article also fails to mention Fiddy's "Disco Inferno", which would be easily the biggest selling disco revivalist single of the decade by a massive margin, but, y'know, Fifty Cent wouldn't get Chris Martin on a track, so fuck him.

Also, indie kids get confused and scared by names like Fedde le Grand.

PUT YOUR HANDS UP FOR ah forget it

Has any pop dated so quickly as that of the early noughties?

Umm, all pop ever? It's kind of supposed to sound ridiculously dated four or five years on. If anything it doesn't sound dated enough.

(Sorry, I'm aware that this is your mutual masturbation session and not really the place for cogent debate so I'll respectfully head off and do something useful)

Settle down Beavis

I was actually going to give you a very cogent answer to your question but from the evidence of your subsequent post I suspect that you're not really interested in that (xp).

Whit Stillman's otherwise disastrously dull Last Days Of Disco = Fuck you moron

I dunno, it could be a shitload worse, but really to write something about the return of disco and NOT mention DFA is pretty fucking retarded.

Fair enough, wouldn't disagree with that (Price seems to be jocking a populist angle, as per, although how The Long Blondes sell compared to the DFA roster, or their recognition factor, I wouldn't be too sure of). Stuff like "...apparently it was all caused by Franz Ferdinand and the Scissor Sisters" just bugs me when people do it on here.

That funky house piece is weirdly amateur, I usually like Melissa Bradshaw

The Long Blondes might be pertinent if any of that album actually sounded like disco, bar one track which is shit.

I saw the Long Blondes on the cover of Plan B. They had pudding bowl haircuts and stripey French fisherman's jumpers and they thought they were it.

In the next issue: how the Frank and Walters paved the way for shanty house...

If you actually bother to read the (admittedly crap) article rather than wilfully misinterpreting it, he actually credits Daft Punk and co for paving the way. It doesn't even remotely credit Franz Ferdinand and, well, any Brit article on a disco revival that excludes the Scissor Sisters (vastly more significant in populist terms than the DFA) is mental.

Sorry, I know this is cranky and boring, but not half as tedious as the stupid grandstanding that accompanies every half-arsed/wrong article ever written about music these days. If you think it's that atrocious, call him out on it in the comments box.

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Lol.

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Franz Ferdinand and many others are, in their individual ways, proving that it's possible to exhibit a love of disco

I think that qualifies under the "remotely" category.

Are the Scissor Sisters really significant in any terms other than Guilty Pleasures ones?

Yeah that's where it falls down, the Scissor Sisters aren't really much more credible than Staying Alive at this point and if they hadn't had their roots in electroclash I'm not sure anyone would ever have claimed otherwise.

What is relevant, however is about 6 years worth of Italo revivalism. People were going to work backwards from there eventually...

Also working back from Chicago house, which never really stopped being credible.

UK dance mags really never did talk about Italo/80s disco 10 years ago - it must've all sounded shit at that time.

but of course when up against Big Beat, what didn't?

You'd have to ask ex-UK dance mag editor I Alexis Petridish about that.

I phoned Conor McNicholas and he agreed that Tullio De Piscopo was ridiculous.

In this Friday's Guardian Music: "Pepe Deluxe will yet have their day."

UK dance mags really never did talk about Italo/80s disco 10 years ago - it must've all sounded shit at that time.

Trying to think of there was *anyone* of note who would have been playing or appropriating it then - maybe DMX Krew or someone else who got sucked into electroclash

I remember Jockey Slut writing about I-F's Mixed Up in the Hague mix (which helped kick off the whole italo revival). I think they may have said it was the best DJ mix ever!

That's 2000 according to Discogs, but it's definitely significant

The thing is, I wouldn't really associate Sissors Sisters with the Disco revival at all, irritating BeeGees falsetto aside, I don't really get the similarity, they remind me more of glammy sixties pop, but kindof eighties sounding too.

'Comfortably Numb' is pretty disco.

Isn't the idea that there's a difference between "disco" as sound (which is where all that Erol Arkan stuff comes in here) and "disco" as genre (which is where neo-camp revivalist like the Scissor Sisters come in)? And that the problem with the article is that it tries to suggest that both are coming from exactly the same place?

Huh?

I just don't think Sissors Sisters sound disco-ey

No, but they look it.

Erol Arkan's disco tigers will bring genocide to the Scissor Sisters.

xp really they just look like arseholes

Surely Scissor Sisters are Elton John-ey

who flirted with disco several times himself

'Filthy Gorgeous' is the most discoey SS number but yeah who cares about them anymore

Surely the Scissor Sisters are multi-purpose kitsch that yeah, borrows as much from Elton John (or indeed Robbie Williams) as disco. I'd say they were diametrically opposed to what Hercules & Love affair are doing, which is a far more reverential, referential, crate-digging way of connecting the dots between disco, soul and early house.

All puffs innit.

phags

I think Scissor Sisters' approach on their first record, while still enormously camp, was closer to that 'referential crate-digging' of H&LA than the second album, which sounds like an Andrew Lloyd-Webber musical about gays.

I mean, have you people never read broadsheet reviews? I thought this bizarre misreading/ham-fisted revisionism of trends was pretty standard now.

Hey J, how's it all going over at OTF?

hahahahaha music writers are so far up their own asses until some bossman shows up, then they're like piranhas. get a real fucking job.

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like something that matters to other people besides you and your own shithole profession

oh and while you're at it, stop posting to ilx too! kthxbye

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Alright Dingbod. It's a bit dull to be honest.

"oh and while you're at it, stop posting to ilx too! kthxbye"

ooooooOOOOOOOOOOooooooooooh! Byeeee!

Angry young man in quasi-misogynist shock.

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Shouting at the dude who pays yr wages doesn't work, so you're going to ride my jock over here?

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"wages"

"dude"

"jock"

In the middle of a raging thunderstorm, a traveling circus accidentally leaves behind some very precious cargo--a baby zebra. The gangly little foal is rescued by horse farmer Nolan Walsh, who takes him home to his young daughter Channing. Once a champion thoroughbred trainer, Walsh has given up horse training for a quiet life with Channing on their modest Kentucky farm. The little zebra, or "Stripes," as Channing calls him, is soon introduced to the farm's misfit troupe of barnyard residents, led by a cranky Shetland Pony named Tucker and Franny, a wise old goat who keeps the family in line. The group is joined by Goose, a deranged big-city pelican who's hiding out in the sticks until the heat dies down in Jersey. The un-aptly named bloodhound Lightening keeps a lazy eye on goings-on at the farm - in between naps. The Walsh farm borders the Turfway Racetrack, where highly skilled thoroughbreds compete for horse racing's top honor, the ultra-prestigious Kentucky Crown. From the first moment Stripes lays eyes on the track, he's hooked--he knows that if he could just get the chance, he could leave all those other horses in the dust. What he doesn't know is--he's not exactly a horse. But with characteristic zeal, he devotes himself to training for the big time, with a little help from Tucker, who has coached a host of champion racehorses in the past.

Shed Seven 'Disco Down' - that's a good track

Another night, another town.

The straw-breaking moment for Bruno Brookes was when he announced Shed Seven's first album as being called Change Jiver.

I don't remember that Franz Ferdinand bringing back disco and I srsly doubt they did.
Neither does this dude;http://www.jamesgaunt.com/notetoself/wp-content/uploads/charris.jpg

Lolz at journo's starting wars on t'internets.

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We don't make love baby, we make magic.

It must be great being on the dole.

^love this dude

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Like, seriously JD, why are you so radge? I know being 45 and having the highpoint of your career being seventh-in-command at highly successful Future Publishing launch Bang Magazine must be something that weighs on your mind, but it's the summer big man! Let the joys of summer in.

"Radge"? Where d'you pick that one up?

Scottish dude that delivers the mail at work.

Figures. Glasgow slang, I believe. It's a good one, isn't it.

I've got a chest infection that I can't shake off. What with me being 37, I find it harder to get over stuff like this than you tweenagers.

I am permanently in a bad mood. It is true.

Do you still stand by your 2006 review in Playlouder that declares "Alright, Still" to be an album comparable to "Nevermind" and "Off The Wall" in terms of quality?

I can't remember writing that. If I did, no, I don't stand by what I said about the Nirvana bit. Alright, Still is a far superior album to anything that misery guts did. What in God's name was I thinking?

Anything else you want from me before I get back to work?

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I've got to go and interview a popular beat combo. You crazy kids get some work done!

Should have been 65daysofstatic xp

"radge" is more east coast than west coast

I hope this is another random googler that sticks around.

I only say radge when I'm back north. It's not part of my London vocab.

isn't John Doran the guy in popular American medical sitcom The Scrub?

"radge" is 100% east coast.

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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tFT7ZCfIlvY

Fucking obsessed with this since Hercules played it at Glastonbury.

Is dude with tiger Ned Raggett?

hahahahaha music writers are so far up their own asses until some bossman shows up, then they're like piranhas. get a real fucking job.

HAHAHA - it's true. I don't care if you're up your own ass, but bickering like children about the path music took (I guess no one ever heard of musical trends and fads, which tend to be, um, nebulous and non-linear) and taking potshots at each other's jobs?!? I agree - get a real job. It'll help your faux-intellectual insecurities a lot more if you don't invest all your internet emotions in something like this.

protip 4 u: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Disco

Is dude with tiger Ned Raggett?

There's a vision.

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OTFM

Meeeh, you see what I mean.

man, another potentially interesting thread, devolved into god knows what any of you are talking about.

and yeah, i guess i'm just being one of those annoying ilm people who comes on a thread to gripe about how boring it's become to post on ilm, but anyway, whatever, carry on.

Talking about music journalists is boring, more videos of obscure disco gems please.

couldn't find one with a proper video, but here:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uvClX3AVsnM

Gawd, I worship Tantra. Has The Double Album ever been released on CD? And to link it to this thread, Tantra's "Top Shot" is one of many disco songs that were borrowing from rock (and new wave) which confuses any notion of one-way flows or hybrids relegated only to certain historical junctures.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vym6VhPvNtw