Poll: Best Song on Paul McCartney's "Ram"

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We've already decided that it's his best album.

Years and years of Beatles, and I can't get past Ram being my favorite single album that any of them were involved with. Is it "better" than Pepper, White Album, Revolver, etc.? I don't know, but I listen to those and hear nostalgia, while Ram keeps sounding fresh as hell.

At one time or another, I think that almost every track on this has been my favorite track. Cute bit of trivia that I read on Amazon: the song "Ram On" as reference to "Paul Ramon" (Paul's old pseudonym).

Anyway, my vote goes to "Too Many People" or "Eat At Home" or "3 Legs" or "Smile Away." For all the subsequent artists who "sound like Paul," none of them ever recorded anything with the breadth of this (nor did any have his vocal chops).

Poll Results

OptionVotes
Uncle Albert/Admiral Halsey 11
The Back Seat Of My Car7
Monkberry Moon Delight 5
Ram On 5
Too Many People 4
Eat At Home 2
Ram On 2
Smile Away 1
3 Legs 1
Heart Of The Country 1
Dear Boy 0
Long Haired Lady 0


dlp9001, Sunday, 20 July 2008 00:11 (seventeen years ago)

Eat At Home

Frogman Henry, Sunday, 20 July 2008 00:14 (seventeen years ago)

yeah, there is something endearingly, uniquely mccartney-ish about this album. no one else could have written any of these songs, and every one of them has a great hook -- i haven't heard it in years and i still remember every one. that said, the execution spoils a lot of it for me. every song sounds like it's been given the "maxwell's silver hammer" treatment -- cutesy background vocals, pointlessly kitschy and cluttered arrangements, etc. i vote for "3 legs" with "too many people" just behind it.

i prefer the 1970 self-titled, which has an eerie, melancholy, half-finished feel.

J.D., Sunday, 20 July 2008 00:19 (seventeen years ago)

It's probably indefensible (I'm not gonna try), but I went with "Monkberry Moon Delight." But only because I can't vote for the whole 4 song stretch from "Uncle Albert" to "Monkberry."

Hideous Lump, Sunday, 20 July 2008 05:36 (seventeen years ago)

"Monkberry Moon Delight," plz.

Johnny Fever, Sunday, 20 July 2008 05:42 (seventeen years ago)

In spite of an album with a huge number of highlights, this has to be "Back Seat Of My Car"

Geir Hongro, Sunday, 20 July 2008 08:29 (seventeen years ago)

First "Ram On".

Z S, Sunday, 20 July 2008 08:33 (seventeen years ago)

"Breadth"? "We"?

If Timi Yuro would be still alive, most other singers could shut up, Sunday, 20 July 2008 08:51 (seventeen years ago)

Two separate ILM polls concluded that Ram was his best album, and in the 2nd poll an overwhelming 6 people voted for it. I don't know how you're going to argue with that.

dlp9001, Sunday, 20 July 2008 12:17 (seventeen years ago)

Yeah I just realised the "Ramon" thing a few weeks ago playing the song in my head. It's so cute! "Ramon, give your heart to somebody..."

Niles Caulder, Sunday, 20 July 2008 12:55 (seventeen years ago)

back seat of my car. had this gone on abbey road or something it would be rightly recognized as the masterpiece it is. the opening notes are haunting. the only bad thing about this is the generally poor recording quality he gave it.

akm, Sunday, 20 July 2008 14:33 (seventeen years ago)

Oh yeah I voted for that too

Niles Caulder, Sunday, 20 July 2008 14:36 (seventeen years ago)

"Eat At Home". Is that Linda singing backing vocals, or a weird effect on Paul's voice? In any case, awesome.

Euler, Sunday, 20 July 2008 16:18 (seventeen years ago)

Admiral Halsey ftw

Shakey Mo Collier, Sunday, 20 July 2008 17:20 (seventeen years ago)

the only bad thing about this is the generally poor recording quality he gave it.

This is a general problem about all of McCartney's pre-"Tug Of War" solo output. Although he did a somewhat better job on "Band On The Run" and "Venus And Mars" than on the rest.

Geir Hongro, Sunday, 20 July 2008 17:43 (seventeen years ago)

Dear Boy
Uncle Albert/Admiral Halsey
The Back Seat Of My Car

^^^ Back Seat Of My Car will always win but I have to rep for all three of these, certainly among the most joyful music McCartney ever recorded, not in a forced "Huzzah, let's all feel the LOVE now!" mode, but more like, these songs are really fucking fun to sing along with, even "Dear Boy" which is kind of a mean-spirited recording. "Even when you fall in love, dear boy, it won't be half as good as this..." - fabulous!

Doctor Casino, Sunday, 20 July 2008 21:42 (seventeen years ago)

Oh, and Monkberry Moon Delight for sheer insanity and some of his best weird lyrics, again in the way of being actually weird and inventive rather than just trying to pile on weirdness to sound trippy (a la "Flaming Pie" - charming though it is). I only just now discovered that the climactic line is "Of two youngsters concealed in a barrel..." - always thought it was "Under your stairs, concealed in a barrel" - but oh well...

Doctor Casino, Sunday, 20 July 2008 21:44 (seventeen years ago)

Ah, fuck, I'm voting for Admiral Halsey. The wailing "HAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAANDS" is the best fusion Linda and he ever achieved between the standard Wings backing vocals and Macca's rocker scream.

Doctor Casino, Sunday, 20 July 2008 21:45 (seventeen years ago)

i love admiral halsey but the lyrics for the second half are just tooooo mccartney-pot-head for me.

long haired lady deserves some love, mainly for the ending ('love is long')

akm, Sunday, 20 July 2008 22:48 (seventeen years ago)

It's a great album - I voted HAlsey, but I like most of the tracks here.

the next grozart, Sunday, 20 July 2008 23:14 (seventeen years ago)

Monkberry Moon Delight

our work is never over, Sunday, 20 July 2008 23:58 (seventeen years ago)

Other little bits I love about this album:

The slapdash way "Ram On" starts, like it couldn't possibly be a real song, much less one that's going to get a reprise.

The little snippet of "Big Barn Bed" that appears and disappears like a ghost.

The way the bass suddenly jumps an octave and kicks "Smile Away" in the ass right when you think it's going to fade out.

How casual a lot of the backing vocals sound. Like, "The guy who wrote this song is a pop genius, but we're going to sing it like we're sitting around the fire at summer camp smoking pot." Granted that's probably not far from the truth.

I'm sure there are more...

dlp9001, Monday, 21 July 2008 00:56 (seventeen years ago)

The "Ahhhhhhhhhhhhh, yi yi yi yi yi" part on Smile Away.

The entire sequence of intro bits pulling into "Too Many People" - as the brash sneer of "Piss off, yeah!" disintegrates into warbles and hoots, drawing you into this album's pastoral domain, but just then the bass comes in, reintroducing the drama... they play around for a few moments and then drums and guitar announce with an emphatic set of stomps that we have made our way around to the actual beginning of the song. The song itself isn't one of my favorites on the album but it's a really nice way to get you into this album's head space, 1/3 jolly Arcadia, 1/3 weird post-60s hangover, 1/3 angelic choir ("nights when we sang like a...").

Doctor Casino, Monday, 21 July 2008 02:45 (seventeen years ago)

I would like a Paul McCartney technoish songs poll.. like on II

CaptainLorax, Monday, 21 July 2008 02:59 (seventeen years ago)

I'm trying to think of what else besides II would need to be in there for it to feel exhaustive. But in any case it would become a showdown between Coming Up and Temporary Secretary...right?

Doctor Casino, Monday, 21 July 2008 03:13 (seventeen years ago)

I dunno, since I mentioned that just so I could get people to fill me in on technoish paul songs. But coming up has it's video, and I remember that shit.

CaptainLorax, Monday, 21 July 2008 03:41 (seventeen years ago)

Uncle Albert/Admiral Halsey

Finefinemusic, Monday, 21 July 2008 13:36 (seventeen years ago)

"Back seat of my car" was the first single by a beatle not to get into the top thirty.

Mark G, Monday, 21 July 2008 13:46 (seventeen years ago)

which is doubly odd as it was only his second 'solo' single.

Also, that it's great.

Mark G, Monday, 21 July 2008 13:48 (seventeen years ago)

I would like a Paul McCartney technoish songs poll.. like on II

"Wonderful Christmastime" >>>>>>>>> All of the technoish songs on II.

Geir Hongro, Monday, 21 July 2008 14:42 (seventeen years ago)

Bogey Music ~= Wonderful Christmastime

Don't make me choose a song off Ram. Please. Oh all right, the second Ram On. But it's SUCH a close call. The whole album is so incredibly joyful, and not forcibly so.

Autumn Almanac, Monday, 21 July 2008 15:11 (seventeen years ago)

The Ramones!

Mark G, Monday, 21 July 2008 15:13 (seventeen years ago)

And of course Linda's voice is used correctly here (c.f. the vomitous mess that is Cook of the House).

Autumn Almanac, Monday, 21 July 2008 15:14 (seventeen years ago)

done voted, me :)

t**t, Monday, 21 July 2008 15:23 (seventeen years ago)

well it was basically 'twixt "dear boy" and "heart of the country" for me. and so i chose one of 'em. yep!

t**t, Monday, 21 July 2008 15:26 (seventeen years ago)

first Ram On

Dominique, Monday, 21 July 2008 15:48 (seventeen years ago)

ok, then what?

Mark G, Monday, 21 July 2008 16:02 (seventeen years ago)

Second, run devil run.

Doctor Casino, Monday, 21 July 2008 16:11 (seventeen years ago)

re: technoish songs, I guess "Goodnight Tonight" counts, also "Secret Friend"! Obscure techno collaborations (Fireman, Twin Freaks) are probably out, sadly.

Doctor Casino, Monday, 21 July 2008 16:12 (seventeen years ago)

ie, the first Ram On is my fave song on this record

tho, I actually always kinda thought this record was overrated. I remember loving Uncle Albert/Admiral Halsey on classic rock radio, but disappointed when only scattered moments on this record were that good (and I hated Linda singing anything, even background vox). I can appreciate the looseness of some of the songwriting more now, and thanks to this thread for causing me to listen to it for the first time in years -- but still sounds way too tossed off for me, and I get tired of P-Mac's 70s-style grit voice really fast.

Dominique, Monday, 21 July 2008 16:25 (seventeen years ago)

70s style? He'd been doing that shit since 63

Shakey Mo Collier, Monday, 21 July 2008 16:31 (seventeen years ago)

I mean the main reason John wanted him for the Beatles was cuz Paul could do the Little Richard shout

Shakey Mo Collier, Monday, 21 July 2008 16:31 (seventeen years ago)

well it's not really a little richard shout, more like his version of gravelly, like "too many people going uuuuunderground". or "haaaaaands across the water", or pretty much all of "monkberry moon delight".

Dominique, Monday, 21 July 2008 16:43 (seventeen years ago)

tom waits should cover monkberry moon delight, it would be a delight

akm, Monday, 21 July 2008 17:03 (seventeen years ago)

I think Monkberry Moon Delight invented Tom Waits. I do agree that McGruffney always sounds a little more affected than the Little Richard thing (which some people have a huge problem with, I always thought he sounded awesome)...but MMD is certainly the most extreme case of it. I'm certain there's songs where it sort of works but I can't recall any right now...

Doctor Casino, Monday, 21 July 2008 23:24 (seventeen years ago)

ah shit I meant to vote for the first Ram On.

Autumn Almanac, Tuesday, 22 July 2008 00:06 (seventeen years ago)

Like most of McCartney's solo output there's something uncomfortably twee/mawkish about Uncle Albert, which prevents Admiral Halsey getting my vote.

Autumn Almanac, Tuesday, 22 July 2008 00:12 (seventeen years ago)

I detest "Uncle Albert" -- wherein his whimsy becomes as oppressive.

Voted for "Too Many People," cuz it's so weird. Has any other kiss-off song every sounded like a celebration of the auteur's own quirks and weaknesses as this?

Alfred, Lord Sotosyn, Tuesday, 22 July 2008 00:19 (seventeen years ago)

Listening to the whole album now. Incredible how proto-Andy Partridge the middle part of Long Haired Lady is.

Autumn Almanac, Tuesday, 22 July 2008 00:34 (seventeen years ago)

"We believe that we can't be wrong!"

ColinO, Tuesday, 22 July 2008 13:56 (seventeen years ago)

Automatic thread bump. This poll is closing tomorrow.

ILX System, Thursday, 24 July 2008 23:01 (seventeen years ago)

The weird muddy mix, oddball pothead words, and whimsical arrangements used to annoy me, but now I think they're great. Ram On has the best use of ukulele in a pop song ever. And if you listen to Eat at Home in the right frame of mind, the lyrics as dirty as any by 2 Live Crew.

The first two McCartney albums invented low-fi and inspired a lot of the old Elephant Six crowd.

leavethecapital, Friday, 25 July 2008 01:14 (seventeen years ago)

I voted Ram On as well. It's kind of his two-minute Smiley Smile.

tho, I actually always kinda thought this record was overrated. I remember loving Uncle Albert/Admiral Halsey on classic rock radio, but disappointed when only scattered moments on this record were that good (and I hated Linda singing anything, even background vox). I can appreciate the looseness of some of the songwriting more now, and thanks to this thread for causing me to listen to it for the first time in years -- but still sounds way too tossed off for me, and I get tired of P-Mac's 70s-style grit voice really fast.

The scattered moments are pretty wonderful: all of "Too Many People," the breakdown coda of "3 Legs," "Dear Boy" is one of his best post-Beatles songs (tho written whilst a Beatle), "Long Haired Lady"'s "Whoooooo's the lady that makes that brief occasional laughter..." is delightful and whimsical, and "Back Seat of My Car" for the aforementioned reasons.

Come to think of it, Dom, they're not that scattered...

Naive Teen Idol, Friday, 25 July 2008 01:35 (seventeen years ago)

Automatic thread bump. This poll's results are now in.

ILX System, Friday, 25 July 2008 23:01 (seventeen years ago)

respeck

Shakey Mo Collier, Friday, 25 July 2008 23:02 (seventeen years ago)

I don't think you'd manage such a spread of votes from many of his solo albums really.

Geir Hongro, Friday, 25 July 2008 23:28 (seventeen years ago)

Ram On came second then, really.

More solo polls please.

Autumn Almanac, Friday, 25 July 2008 23:40 (seventeen years ago)

McCartney's first would be interesting

Shakey Mo Collier, Friday, 25 July 2008 23:41 (seventeen years ago)

All Things Must Pass too

Shakey Mo Collier, Friday, 25 July 2008 23:41 (seventeen years ago)

Lack of votes for "Dear Boy" is surprising. "Monkberry" and "Ram On" are probably tied in first for me. I'd like to see a movie that has "Ram On" as its main theme, with different versions popping up throughout -- these two, the Thrillington one, and, uh, the TMBG instrumental cover.

Vaguely Threatening CAPTCHAs, Friday, 25 July 2008 23:48 (seventeen years ago)

Dear Boy came on random (out of 1,600 ipod tracks) at the gym this morning, and I just stopped for three minutes. Beautiful song.

Autumn Almanac, Saturday, 26 July 2008 00:16 (seventeen years ago)

one year passes...

On another thread, Dr. Casino said, "Thrillington is really lovely and really points up just how richly detailed Ram is."

I would say that the striking thing, for me, about Thrillington is that it points up just how solid the album is compositionally from end to end.

timellison, Friday, 16 July 2010 15:55 (fifteen years ago)

woulda given 'dear boy' a vote

iatee, Friday, 16 July 2010 16:16 (fifteen years ago)

Thrillington also makes it clear how rooted the compositions are in certain styles. None of the arrangements really take a given song and transform it into a totally different style in order to make it work.

timellison, Friday, 16 July 2010 16:41 (fifteen years ago)

The end of "3 Legs" is a trip.

Beach Pomade (Adam Bruneau), Friday, 16 July 2010 19:49 (fifteen years ago)


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