So I loaned this guy at work the Hercules & Love Affair album...

Bruce Haack obvv

http://www.amazon.com/Rough-Trade-Shops-Various-Artists/dp/B00005YXNS

seconding bruce haack
I've posted dude's name on the internet a lot in the past couple days jeeze

Perrey & Kingsley
Jean-Jacques Perrey
Gershon Kingsley

in that order

How about Autechre Confield, definitely fits both weird and electronic.

"We Share Our Mother's Health"

xpost but it might be inaccessible, dense, obtuse, obscure or difficult.

I guess I was thinking Stephen meant not necessarily those things; in that case, how about Matmos The Rose Has Teeth in the Mouth of a Beast.

Matmos, Autechre both good suggestions. The Knife too. That Rough Trade comp has some great stuff on it too, nice selection of tracks. Not familiar with the rest but I'm taking note regardless. Thanks!

Now... what else?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lQ-zpjg6j4Q

Sergei Paradzahanov - The Colour of Pomegranates

Throbbing Gristle's 20 Jazz Funk Greats

Haha you like Hercules & Love Affair

Satanstornade!

Kid 606 would be fun

Alejandro & Aeron, Boucha Blue Blazes.

Man, that is a great album. Pulling that out right now so I don't forget.

v v weird and also v cool

http://mutant-sounds.blogspot.com/2008/05/pimmon-orquesta-del-arrurruz-4-cd-2001.html

also definitely the *weirdest* of this brand of stuff i've ever heard

I'm guessing this character is new to electronic music so I'd say mid-late 90's early 00's Warp, i.e. Squarepusher, Aphex, Autechre, et al are generally a safe way to go. Accessible, enjoyable, and generally satisfy people looking for 'wierd' electronic music. At least for a 16 year old me, getting off on the idea of 'wierd electronic' music, this was my touchstone.

And I forgot Oval!

Endless Summer would be another good album to play.

yeah i was gonna say Richard D. James Album just might do the trick if dude wants odd and accessible

Rather than predictable contrived IDM weirdness, how about something like DJ Koze? Or Villalobos? Matthew Herbert?

Because predictable contrived IDM weirdness might sound unpredictable and uncontrived to fresh ears?

Endless Summer would be another good album to play.

yeah i was gonna say Richard D. James Album just might do the trick if dude wants odd and accessible

I had pulled both of these out already before you guys suggested em. But definitely good choices.

That's right (Xpost). I don't think he wants to listen to this music so that after he can go talk about it on ILM.

I don't think he wants to listen to this music so that after he can go talk bitch about it on ILM.

Give him:

some Merzbow
the new Dan Friel album
\some Aphex Twin, but skip Richard D. James album and give him Hangable Auto Bulb instead for sure.
also give him Mu's Afro Finger and Gel

Maybe give him some of the accessible stuff plus a CD-R of that Pimmon album I linked to with the preface that "this is the stuff you might say isn't even music"

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lQ-zpjg6j4Q

-- Steve Shasta, Wednesday, July 30, 2008 8:06 PM (2 hours ago) Bookmark Link

MR. JODOROWSKY PLEASE COME TO THE COURTESY COUNTER, YOUR PARTY IS WAITING FOR YOU

alright so i set this guy up with Autechre's Confield this morning and now he's like, "wtf this is out there, i wanted something like Hot Chip's 'Over and Over,' that's weird to me"

so i think i'm gonna give him Computer World or maybe Silent Shout next. i dunno.

An interesting exercise in different conceptions of "weird", then!

Hot Chip sound completely normal, like Kylie without er Kylie.

How about Max Tundra?

The Chap?

Dan Deacon?

How about Max Tundra?

good call! i actually thought about bringing Mastered by Guy at the Exchange but didn't, i'll keep that in mind though.

Dan Deacon?

okay, let's add a qualifier: i think he's asking for good, weird and electronic. one of these does not fit Dan Deacon; i'll let you be the judge.

btw i just gave him Silent Shout, will update you guys soon on what he thinks.

Cut Copy?

Dan Deacon?
okay, let's add a qualifier: i think he's asking for good, weird and electronic. one of these does not fit Dan Deacon; i'll let you be the judge.

-- stephen, Thursday, July 31, 2008 2:49 PM (13 minutes ago) Bookmark Link

Fuck you

btw i just gave him Silent Shout, will update you guys soon on what he thinks.

Good choice. Weird, dark, spooky, and accessible.

no mention of Plaid yet?

Fuck you

i'm just kidding, no offense. sheesh.

Me (10:11:43 AM): thoughts on the cd?
Him (10:11:48 AM): pretty awesome
Me (10:12:20 AM): what do you like about it?
Him (10:12:53 AM): i don't know what you call it. but i like the instrument / sounds that make the melody
Him (10:13:01 AM): like they play a role that a guitar might do
Him (10:13:15 AM): but it's all like electronic sounding

this guy sounds like he has never in his life even accidentally encountered a single note of music not made by an analogue instrument, ever. jeez, even van halen used synths!

I second blueski's suggestion, that's an awesome compilation.

I don't think he wants to listen to this music so that after he can go bitch about it on ILM.

-- stephen, Thursday, 31 July 2008 03:24 (13 hours ago) Link

I thought that was implicit in my post!

And yeah Dan Deacon doesn't resemble anything close to good.

Cristian Vogel (and super colider,maybe) would be good too.

Super_Collider is a nice suggestion, thanks

his thoughts on Jim O'Rourke's Eureka:

Me (1:51:07 PM): verdict?
Him (1:51:12 PM): pretty good
Me (1:51:30 PM): yay
Him (1:51:55 PM): this would be stuff i would really like to listen to while falling asleep
Him (1:52:14 PM): something big is a great song
Him (1:52:25 PM): it's really different than all the rest

Arthur Russell?

He asked for more O'Rourke and all I had here was Happy Days...

I'm not sure this is going to be pretty...

Sympathy Nervous

Him (1:52:14 PM): something big is a great song
Him (1:52:25 PM): it's really different than all the rest

lol Bacharach

Him (10:13:01 AM): like they play a role that a guitar might do
Him (10:13:15 AM): but it's all like electronic sounding

-- stephen, Thursday, July 31, 2008 3:20 PM (4 hours ago) Bookmark Link

this guy sounds like he has never in his life even accidentally encountered a single note of music not made by an analogue instrument, ever. jeez, even van halen used synths!

-- CharlieNo4, Thursday, July 31, 2008 3:51 PM (4 hours ago) Bookmark Link

Actually I think that's a somewhat perceptive/interesting way of talking about all the arpeggio on Silent Shout songs.

Happy Days commentary:

Him (2:54:42 PM): the CD ended
Me (2:54:51 PM): how was it?
Him (2:55:13 PM): dude i really enjoyed it
Him (2:55:18 PM): i could listen to that more
Him (2:55:31 PM): my favorite part by far sounds like a jet engine idling
Him (2:55:41 PM): like how it sounds when you hear a plane
Me (2:55:55 PM): so you liked the 30-40 minute drone section?
Him (2:56:13 PM): yeah i think the repetition is calming
Him (2:56:33 PM): it's like an eloquent version of white noise
Him (2:56:41 PM): mostly blank
Me (2:57:13 PM): wow
Me (2:57:17 PM): i sorta thought you would hate it

which one has a young person's guide to drowning on it?

Me (2:57:13 PM): wow
Me (2:57:17 PM): i sorta thought you would hate it

-- stephen, Thursday, July 31, 2008 8:16 PM (3 hours ago) Bookmark Link

hahaha

Reminds me of one time where I played Main (firmament 3, nonetheless, which is among their more abstract stuff) to who was probably the owner of what is the worst taste in music I've ever met (not so much badtaste as much as just incredibly unaware and ignorant, so, nothing but absolute bottom of the barrel mainstream rock and pop, general pleb-dance music, "I don't like any rap - mutters something I can't entirely make out but I'm pretty sure I heard something about 'blacks' - except for Linkin Park, etc.) Either way, she actually liked it. "It's very smooth, it sounds like water. Very relaxing."

There should be a " after Linking Park. I don't know if it's evident or not but that was quote of her.

Also, while initially describing it, she asked me if it was like "Du Hast Mech."

Another coworker's analysis of Jim O'Rourke, after she heard Eureka all the way through:

Her (2:13:18 PM): i love him, hilarious
Her (2:13:28 PM): he sounds like he's missing teeth and drinks pabst blue ribbon
Her (2:20:26 PM): he smokes pall malls
Her (2:20:28 PM): i can tell

when a neutral bystander is able to unlock the secret truth behind things

What are these coworkers like? How old are they? What are they usually into?

http://www.mdmproofing.com/iym/tutorials/how-create-check-register/start-excel.gif

lolol

Ha. I just wanted some context, is all. :)

jaymc -

the guy is early '20s and listens to osborne brothers, del mccoury, david allan coe

the girl is mid '20s and listens to counting crows, joe purdy, ryan adams, van morrison, patti griffin, coldplay, muse

Comments from a coworker after hearing "Otis" by the Durutti Column:

(11:47:34 AM): def some electronica
(11:47:37 AM): stuff going on
(11:49:27 AM): its kind of pretty
(11:49:57 AM): it's also kind of irritating to me bc of the high pitched guitar synthesized noise
(11:51:46 AM): well mainly i was trying to see the high points
(11:52:05 AM): bc it's interesting
(11:52:08 AM): but ....
(11:52:17 AM): maybe i'll have to listen a few more times
(11:52:21 AM): to like it

... and then "Sketch for Summer," also by the Durutti Column:

(11:55:02 AM): see what i mean though with all this synthesized stuff, it sounds JUST LIKE the background music to my ducktails nintendo game
(11:55:03 AM): i swear
(11:59:01 AM): it sounds electronic?
(11:59:05 AM): and whiney
(11:59:14 AM): dont really know how to musically describe that
(12:00:43 PM): power of articulation is low
(12:00:45 PM): haha
(12:00:52 PM): but i know what im talking about

I wouldn't go the spazzy IDM route. That stuff hasn't aged well, and it's more "weird" than weird anyway.

The O'Rourke was a good one. What about...

William Basinski: Shortwave Music
Yellow Magic Orchestra: Solid State Survivor
Vladislav Delay: Multila
Suicide: s/t
Thomas Brinkmann: Klick
Alvin Lucier: I am Sitting in a Room
Holger Czukay: Canaxis

Cool list there, thanks. I own a few of those, will definitely consider loaning those out. :)

Kelley Polar

i had a girlfriend who i used to work with and any time i put on anything that even REMOTELY sounded like vini reilly she would say: "is this the dreary column again?"

Four Tet;
Borderline inaccessible and sometimes dense. But definitely electronic and surely to many...weird

William Basinski's Disintegration Loops is one of the most moving pieces I've heard, but requires a lot of patience.

(xp)

Asmus Tietchens' early lps on Sky
Lithops: Uni Umit

F.X. Randomiz - Goflex

The League of Automatic Music Composers - The League of Automatic Music Composers 1978 - 1983

Felix Kubin - Axolotl Lullabies

These are all pretty awesome.

fennesz - plays

I dunno Otis is pretty damn accessible. And no human should ever live without hearing at least one disintegration loop. But first maybe try the track Modena by Keith Fullerton Whitman, an all time top 50 fav. pieces of music ever for me. Unbelievably relaxing and supremely beautiful. captures a lot of the aesthetic and experimental qualities of someone like, say, terry riley, but just amazing to listen to while idly staring out of the window of a bus of what have you.

and on that note (xpost thanks for reminding me) Ekkehard Ehlers plays john cassavettes = otm.