Can - Future Days POLLLLLLLLLL

"For the sake of future days"...stoopid

I'm gonna be the boring popkraut dude and vote Moonshake

for years I woulda said Bel Air, but lately it's Future Days.

"Future Days"

Title track in a walk. Maybe the best thing they ever did.

went for Moonshake as well. sometimes i'll just be sitting around sipping an iced tea on someone's deck, enjoying the cool breeze in the air, and I'll just start hearing it.

Fresh prince of B1 yeahhhhh

Okay, this is one of the only Can albums that just always struck me as mediocre. I hate this because most everyone else like me who loves Can thinks this is one of their best. I promise a re-evaluation of it due to this thread.

In other news...at the gym the other day I stumbled upon "Vitamin C" from Ege Bamyasi on my iPod and I nearly cried it was so good. It's been a long time since I played Can...way too long. Those SACD CD's have sat on my shelf for quite awhile now. It's shameful.

I play this CAN album if im hanging out with girls. But its really good. Not because it has the best songs but because it has the best playing. Listen to this and you really get how fucking tight these guys were and how exactly they knew to complete each other. MAGIC!

this is my fave CAN album, doggs. doesn't have my favorite CAN songs on it, necessarily, but I think it's the best album. voted for bel air.

My favorite Can, and one of my favorite anythings ever.

Bel Air.

future days but close over moonshake

My favorite Can, and one of my favorite anythings ever.

OTM. Me too. As such, this is a near impossible decision for me, as such. I lurve that "passing sprinklers" percussive element on "Bel Air" and the title track, but "Moonshake" brings the krautfunk like no other, so I don't know.. I'm going to have to think about this.

opps: As such, this is a near impossible decision for me, as such.

"Future Days" one of the best things in the world ever. "Moonshake" brilliant. Can't be arsed with the rest of it.

bimble you are not alone

OTM

I can't really separate this out into four different pieces. It's just one long perfect groove, isn't it?

It's been a long time for me since I've heard this (my copy was stolen), but probably "Future Days" with "Bel Air" not far behind...

And FWIW, I never got Jaki Liebezeit's dislike for this record (or Cope's, for that matter) — it's pretty clearly their last unabashed masterpiece.

I agree 100% with Jaki on this album

I think Jaki and Julian's problem is with "Bel Air", not with the album as a whole. I'm also surprised that anyone thinks "Spray" is that good either.

what's Jaki's problem with "Bel Air"?

will anyone vote for "spray" (not me)?

gotta go with the title track.

I don't think I've ever heard a note of this album.

Not my favorite Can, but it's a wonderful album to end the Demo era on. There's an incredible amount of resolution on this album, for what it's worth. Still, I prefer all the previous Damo albums just because Can's early work is that good.

All that said, I voted "Bel Air" for the former reason. All the tracks are fine, but "Bel Air" is up there with "Yoo Doo Right", "Halleluwah" on the excellent opuses tip. Not getting why there's hate for it here (outside Can members themselves.)

Playing "Spray" right now. It's gorgeous. Esp. the "undulating" bits of the bass & guitar.

"Moonshake" begins. This is gorgeous and incredible. Fun and sharp. All ingredients interlocking and creating something unique. I think this must be the one.

the last minute of bel air is the most sublime thing can ever did

"moonshake" is unbearable. cheesy, corny, crappy, you name it. zero subtlety. i go for the title track but "tago mago" is their best album. by far.

Future Days because the voice changes so much and sounds cool.

Future Days for me as well, mostly for sentimental reasons: it's what got me hooked on Can in the first place. But it still stands out today, even though I too find this LP to be one perfect groove.

what's Jaki's problem with "Bel Air"?

Apparently everybody in the band felt that the drums and the bass were recorded too loud - it was recorded live so the levels were being handled by their sound engineer - personally, I don't think it's possible for the drums and bass in Can to be too loud! Beyond that, Jaki disliked the track because he said it was "too symphonic", while Holger liked the track for the same reason! It is probably the "proggiest" track Can ever recorded - which is why some people like it and other people don't like it. Admittedly, these days, Jaki doesn't seem to like much Can outwith the Malcolm Mooney years.

Automatic thread bump. This poll is closing tomorrow.

It is probably the "proggiest" track Can ever recorded

if you ignore the the mid to late 70s albums.

"Bel Air Suite" gave Damo legs for walking! (away)

title track

Never really liked Bel Air that much, kind of just wanders. And the album as a whole I've always thought was a little overrated. I like the albums on either side of it a lot more (and don't really understand how the last two songs on Soon Over Babaluma haven't yet eclipsed Bel Air in the "symphonic Can" reputational sweepstakes)

O T M Dominique! Quantum Physics: sublime.

Jaki's opinions are a bit mad, then again he was always the least important member of the group.

Are you just saying that to annoy people?

Hahaha

Of course I am

(though in one sense he was the least important member of the group, since I like to think of CAN as a perfectally holistic experience, making every member the most or least important...)

"Future Days" one of the best things in the world ever. "Moonshake" brilliant. Can't be arsed with the rest of it.

I agree. Which makes it rather slight as an album as a whole.

"moonshake" is unbearable. cheesy, corny, crappy, you name it. zero subtlety.

I guess people listen to Can for different things than I do. But the groove, the groove!

I play this CAN album if im hanging out with girls.

I guess people listen to Can for different things than I do. But hey, why not?

"moonshake" is unbearable. cheesy, corny, crappy, you name it. zero subtlety.

Looney

Love, love, love the osccillating sort of tuned white noise (if that's possible) bit that goes through Future Days. One of my favourite noises on any record. And the mumbling voiceover bit that comes in near the beginning. And the violins(?) or whatever they are.

That's a guitar, the "osccillating sort of tuned white noise bit"... isn't it? And I think those are violins, tho they aren't credited, Michael K being a fair old fiddler. Favourite bit probably when the track fades in again at twice the speed, genius. Kraftwerk's "Ananas Symphonie" always reminds me of this track, for some reason.

Subtlety's all well and great and all, but what's so terrible about a lack of it...?

"moonshake" is unbearable. cheesy, corny, crappy, you name it. zero subtlety.

It's hardly Andrew WK now,is it?

Guitar with distortion plus tremelo? I used to think that, but after many failed attempts to recreate it, I wondered if it wasn't some sort of ring modulator thing like Hawkwind used for the whooshes.

I'm pretty sure it's guitar, it is a phenomenal sound!

So, I was just trying to find a version of Future Days to listen to online (as I'm at work), and all I could get was the Carl Craig remix, which I'd never heard before. It's actually pretty good in its own way.

Have just found Moonshake ... wow. Percussion bit that starts at 1.11. Yes!

Automatic thread bump. This poll's results are now in.

will anyone vote for "spray" (not me)?

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Nope.

Wow. That was a lot more lopsided than I was expecting.

You know, I'm going to be absolutely and totally honest with ILM. When I burned this album to disc (circa oh I dunno...2002??) I didn't include "Bel Air". Why? Because the damn thing was so loooooong and all I had was a fucking dial up connection. And it was so hard to find people to get this stuff from in those pre-s15k days. I'm only hearing "Bel Air" right now on my iPod for the first time. And Bimble doesn't want to jump in and make hasty judgements before he's heard the whole thing. Patience. Peace.

Just sayin'.

But Ride's "Grasshopper" comes to mind. And I'm 10 minutes in and I really think it's nice. Can rule etc. They make the flowers bloom.

And doesn't it sound like the end of Beatles "Day In The Life" at the end?

I love it.

BEST ALBUM

this is a sat/sunday afternoon album for me lately. music to eat hummus & green peppers to, music to eat a grapefruit to, to get out of the shower & just stay in your bathrobe all day to

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I love "Bel Air"

"moonshake" is unbearable. cheesy, corny, crappy, you name it. zero subtlety.

The only part that is sort of corny in moonshake is the cartoon fx solo... made the younger version of myself raise an eyebrow but in the end it became the most endearing aspect of the song. The groove is magnificent too but that's a given. Makes me wish Damo and Can had experimented more with this sort of zany pop moments than with prog experimentation. Turtles Have Short Legs and Moonshake have gradually become my top songs in the Can catalogue.

Experimented with prog experimentation is a pleonasm. Meant to say I wish they had spent more time with pop than with prog.

i want more is sort of apex of this, no?

also always liked moonshake tho judging by some of czukay's wardrobe, Can + subtlety hardly a given!

Makes me wish Damo and Can had experimented more with this sort of zany pop moments than with prog experimentation. Turtles Have Short Legs and Moonshake have gradually become my top songs in the Can catalogue.

Yeah I think people are definitely off-base if they think "Moonshake" is no good. I absolutely love that song as well as "Spoon", "I'm So Green", "Turtles", and "I Want More". I wonder how many more of those they had in them??

"Future Days" has probably my favorite Damo Suzuki vocal performance.

xp "I'm So Green" is the first song that my mind begins to play whenever I think about Can; used to be "Oh Yeah".

Saw Agalloch play last Tuesday night; guitarist was wearing Future Days T-Shirt.

waow

http://www.flickr.com/photos/gregcphotography/5592408153/in/set-72157626341313848

the proof

oh dammit...

http://www.flickr.com/photos/gregcphotography/5592408153/in/set-72157626341313848

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He can change he can change he can change he can change

whoa...now it's all so obvious

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_backmasked_messages

I missed its 1st August anniversary but this album turned FIFTY this year.

The Fall used a fair bit of "Bel Air" for "I am Damo Suzuki"

They did it well!

Free Thinking on Radio 3 covers Future Days this Thursday.

Matthew Sweet is joined by musicians Jah Wobble and Gwenno, novelist Alan Warner and cultural historian Mererid Puw Davies to take a deep dive into the album and explore the blend of influences that made Can such a unique musical proposition.

cool!

enjoyed this discussion -- Wobble's enthusiasm for his time with Holger and Jaki was really fun.

So yesterday I was at the endodontist getting my tooth rooted (appt 2/4) and if you know me, you are fully aware that i need to be sedated to endure this sort of procedure. so i was drugged to the gills, numbed up and unable to feel my face, but ready to go home. the doc came out to the lobby with me to send me home w my mr. i don't remember what prompted it, but i mentioned that i am a drummer and the doc asked me who my favorite drummer is and, in my stupor, i went with Jaki because I could remember his name and he's def up there on my list anyway.

then my doc was like "oh yeah, Can -- Future Days is my favorite" and my face was too numb to smile so i made a very weird facial expression and felt that i have absolutely found the coolest dental professional on earth.

Nice one.

That's awesome.

I have recently felt like this is maybe my single favourite album.

haha that's amazing

Do y'all ever get asked what genre of music you want before the health pros proceed with their tasks? Had a few MRIs accompanied by "jazz" which works out to 20 minutes of quiet storm enclosed in a tube.

My dentist office folks sometimes ask, but usually don't, which works out to pop country/MOR, to which the dentist actually sings along, but the hygienists just hum.

Went to a bodywork place where the owner played ROCK OF THE MILLENNIUM in the lobby, White Stripes/Interpol/Magnoia Electric Co/etc. Which was fine. Current place does the appropriate new age/ambient.

Would love to track down the provider who wrote the amazon review about how Demdike Stare "shocks or transposes people into a new consciousness"

https://www.amazon.com/Tryptych-Demdike-Stare/dp/B004DK49U0

(...now listed by amazon as an audiobook!)

My dentist's office plays soft adult contemporary. The only music convo I can recall is a hygienist asking me if I like Christmas music.

My regular dentist plays Spanish language pop from the 2000s usually. This guy fortunately had no music but tbh I would trust him to pick something I'd like!

I've never been to a dentist that plays music. Maybe that's one of those "American things".

When I had a big procedure (a couple of decades ago) I was asked if I wanted to listen to music on headphones. They pulled out a fat binder containing an inoffensive collection of cds from which I chose Dark Side of the Moon.

a couple years ago when I got my vascectomy the surgeon said "I have Spotify if you want to listen to anything", I was like uh yeah man I'd love to have my favorite songs ruined forever

the one time I did this was getting a filling a decade ago, I brought my headphones and listened to "Cavities" by Turquoise Jeep on repeat

My dentist in England in the 1970s had a psychedelic light screen above the chair that pulsed to music. He also had pictures of himself all over walls skiing in various beautiful locations. Didn’t stop the fucker for putting a drill on a nerve that left me with a lifelong fear of dentists.

My dentist in England in the 1970s had a psychedelic light screen above the chair that pulsed to music. He also had pictures of himself all over walls skiing in various beautiful locations. Didn’t stop the fucker for putting a drill on a nerve that left me with a lifelong fear of dentists.

> I was like uh yeah man I'd love to have my favorite songs ruined forever

Yah, this is why I don't generally want to choose. If anything, being forced to close listen to Garth Brooks is a distracting exercise.

Earlier this year I went to the dentist at lunch for a routine cleaning and when the suction came off I was treated to "Lake Of Fire" (Nirvana/Meat Puppets unplugged version) being played on the in-room muzak.

Granted the dental office is on Haight Street but it maybe was a little too #genX on-brand for me... uncomfortably so!

I remember getting my first ever cavity done when I was 16 and listening to butthole surfers “comb” during it on my Walkman

They should play generative music based on your periodontal chart.

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that rhythm shift like 5 minutes into Bel Air is I think one of the greatest things ever recorded, it's so good that it makes me emotional

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