Ida, C or D?

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I bought Will You Find me secondhand (for cheap...) a few days ago, and really just can't make up my mind about it. Seems stunningly mediocre to me, but I know lots of people are crazy about them. Perhaps I just got the wrong record?

Oliver Palmer, Sunday, 12 May 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

Yeah, that one was a dud. I sold it back myself, so sorry if that's the copy you're stuck with, hee hee. Their next album, The Braille Night, is not nearly as sappy and a lot more interesting musically, with a spare, chamber quality, including good things like drones and dissonance. Although all their earlier stuff tends to carry a creepy whiff of self-help hippie preciousness, some of the vocal crescendoes on I Know About You are pretty powerful. That probably accounts for the Low comparisons, which otherwise seem wrong. Where Low is restrained, Ida is too often cloying.

Curt, Sunday, 12 May 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

EXTREMELY CLASSIC and if you don't like it instantly you probably never will. Will You Find Me is a stunning record and one of my favourites for '99 (i think). The vocal harmonies are so ace they make me wet (figuratively speaking). Colin Meeder to thread!

electric sound of jim, Sunday, 12 May 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

Curtis is OTM about I Know About You - it is their best record without a doubt, and the one that got me hooked in.

electric sound of jim, Sunday, 12 May 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

There's a great review of that particular album on Pitchfork that says something like; "Ida try to be pretty by writing songs about love and butterflies like The Dwarves try to be badass w/ powerchords and the word 'fuck'".

I'll keep trying with it, anyway (although I feel almost bound to find it nauseating, somehow.)

Oliver Palmer, Monday, 13 May 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

i have only 'the braille night'. i got it for the song 'blizzard of '78'. i love that song. when the next song comes in after it, i start thinking 'why do they let this guy on the mic?'

that is all.

Ron, Monday, 13 May 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

Too soon to tell if they'll be classic or dud. I am not and cannot be objective about this band, but I will say 1. that "I Know About You" is the best thing that they've ever done, and may one day achieve classic status, 2. that I like the new remix album, "Shhh", very, very much, and 3. that some of their lyrics are as cringeingly awful as some of their other lyrics are really, really beautiful.

Daver and Douglas to thread!

Colin Meeder, Monday, 13 May 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

Considering that the Pitchfork editorial staff gets a boner whenever they've the chance to bash anything remotely "emo" (yawping vocals, earnest / poetic lyrics, any sign of vulnerability / sensitivity), take that "great review" with a Lot's-wife-sized pillar of salt. (Never mind that there was a positive review of _Will You Find Me?_ offered to and rejected by PFork in lieu of the 5.9 coughed up in its stead.)

Colin's on the money (though I'm partial to _Will You Find Me?_ as the classic, flaws & all). I prefer to not think of Ida as this super-sincere group of lovey-dovey sissies (as most critics portray them), and focus on their skills (readily apparent on _Ten Small Paces_, mixing up their originals and some incidental music w/ Eno & Bill Monroe & Neil Young, all slap-dash and loosey-goosey; probably the record with the lowest amount of preciousness). Seeing them live helps, too - most folks I know of that have seen Ida live would die for them.

Had my first exposures to Ida not been A) their live show and B) _Ten Small Paces_, I probably wouldn't be here defending them. Probably the BEST place to start would be their _Live at Carnegie Hall_ release (offered by Insound as part of their Tour Support series). However, the fluctuating fidelity might annoy more than the other Ida trademarks (and it's OOP). Since that's not an option, maybe _Ten Small Paces_ is what you need (though you can't go wrong w/ _I Know About You_, either).

Daver, Monday, 13 May 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

No one ever seems to mention it, but I think the Losing True EP is probably their finest hour, myself -- it's probably one of my favorite EPs of all time.

Dave's right that they're often at their best live. They're always at least solid in live performance, and they were phenomenal the first time I saw them back in 1997 -- I didn't know a thing about them, and only caught their set because they were opening for Low, but was completely blown away (especially by "Little Things", "Requator" and "Shrug"). Beautiful, mesmerizing, articulate, intelligent, rich music. They rocked out a lot more, too, than they have at shows I've seen since, which have tended to be more low-key.

I quite like Will You Find Me but I find it drops off a bit somewhere around the midpoint. The first half is great, though. And I remember enjoying I Know About You quite a lot, but haven't heard it in years, which is pretty embarrassing.

Phil, Monday, 13 May 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

Classic, classic, classic! I'm surprised there haven't been more defenders of the band on this board, given how ILM seems to almost unanimously dig other artists with a similar aesthetic (Red House Painters, Low).

While 10 Small Paces is a great place to start getting into Ida (it feels like an eclectic mix tape), my overall favorite might very well be their children's album, "You Are My Flower". It's a very fun, unforced album with a loose vibe, great singing, and great song interpretations.

popmusic, Tuesday, 14 May 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

popmusic, I sampled some once and it just sounded lame and pretty. Dave has been unable to change my mind yet.

(Low's third is one of my three favorite cds evah)

Josh, Tuesday, 14 May 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

Maybe I forgot that Ida was more of an acquired taste for me initially... I heard them open for Low (Ida's "10 Small Paces" era, Low's "Songs for a Dead Pilot" era) and liked their show a lot, but not enough to buy their CD at the show... Come to think of it, I think a whole year went by before I actually bought "10 Small Paces". After that I was hooked.

Musically speaking, they're not that far away from a less-melancholy Red House Painters, a faster Low, a less-cryptic Nick Drake, a less bitter Richard/Linda Thompson, etc... Basically, they're not that far away from other artists who ILM as a whole seems to dig. Although there is a slightly different aesthetic to their music which makes it less easily catagorizable -- there's an embracement of twee (or at least, my understanding of what twee is :-) ) in order to make something with more weight than most twee ever aims for.

I dunno, maybe they're just a band that grows on you.

popmusic, Tuesday, 14 May 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

less melancholy RHP, faster Low = ruining the good parts!

Josh, Tuesday, 14 May 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

I think Josh is onto something. There just isn't anything there. The previous sentence is my submission for their next album title if they don't go with "Special Lady Sweetness" or "Ida Know". No offense to the fans here since I haven't met you, but many of their fans seem to be duds too.

gilgamesh, Tuesday, 14 May 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

Aren't you supposed to be fighting Humbaba, the giant with the beard of human entrails?

Phil, Tuesday, 14 May 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

lost his wildman helper sidekick enikidu, gave up

Josh, Tuesday, 14 May 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

Time for the prickly plant of immortality.

Ned Raggett, Tuesday, 14 May 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

I can't speak for any of their other fans, but the suggestion that I am a potential dud for liking Ida is quite absurd. They're just one of many bands I like, and I like them a lot. They get written off too easily. Low are capable of being far more mimsy wimsy than Ida, and I still adore Low. I can't be arsed justifying my love of this band anymore, you can sod off and listen to whatever tripe you prefer, it makes no damn difference to me

electric sound of jim, Tuesday, 14 May 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

with humbaba and enkidu long gone I now am stuck fighting ida, and death's embrace no longer seems so bad. I was just jokin bout the fans bein duds (I think), no offense intended. I say if you post here you're classic (with some notable exceptions). yay! but if somebody wanna take me on, bring it. I am a warrior-king born.

gilgamesh, Wednesday, 15 May 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

one year passes...
Just got the Elizabeth Mitchell CD You Are My Sunshine (a companion to You Are My Flower), and oh lord...it is wonderful. I like Ida, and even so, I had my reservations - would it be unbearably precious, being a children's album and all? No. I mean, who else could cover "You Are My Sunshine" without a shred of irony, and do it so stunningly (and it is stunning). Cat Stevens' "Here Comes My Baby"..."Skip to My Lou" (!)..."Alphabet Dub" (the alphabet sung as a DUB SONG. You heard me. Mofo-ing DUB!)

Time Stereo is selling this album and You Are My Flower as a combo for $17. A STEAL.

Also, I can't stop playing Ida/HNIA's cover of "Ain't No Lie" - I literally put this song on repeat. And "Walk Away Renee." How's the cover of "Save Me A Place," done with Retsin?

Ernest P. (ernestp), Sunday, 25 May 2003 04:56 (twenty-two years ago)

one year passes...
any thoughts on Heart Like a River? i got it yesterday, one listen hasn't totally blown me away but it's still obviously one of their top three records.

shine headlights on me (electricsound), Friday, 18 February 2005 03:44 (twenty years ago)

It's at least one of their top 6 full-lengths.

(That's a joke, son.)

David R. (popshots75`), Friday, 18 February 2005 03:58 (twenty years ago)

well yes.

on second listen it's my third favourite (after will you find me and i know about you, respectively). it sounds lovely and feels like a grower but it's no departure.

shine headlights on me (electricsound), Friday, 18 February 2005 04:00 (twenty years ago)

two years pass...

Lovers Prayers is a return to form after the last two albums

heart like a river turned out to be a bore, but at least it was better than braille night

electricsound, Saturday, 2 February 2008 08:55 (seventeen years ago)

sixteen years pass...

just reviving a thread to disagree with the sixteen year old post above (!) scored 3 Ida CDs at PREX yesterday, was so happy. i had only really listened to 'i know about you' years ago, but delighted to find that the rest of their discography is just as pleasant. 'late blues' is breathtaking. i also see they are reuniting for a tour next year! hoping to make the bowery ballroom for that...

https://idamusic.bandcamp.com/track/late-blues

maelin, Tuesday, 29 October 2024 20:22 (eleven months ago)


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