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All right you corny-ass contrarians, get out your CHALLOPS and vote with your cerebellum.

Poll Results

OptionVotes
"Corcovado" (Jobim, Gene Lees) – 4:16 10
"Desafinado" (Jobim, Newton Mendonça) – 4:15 8
"Só Danço Samba" (Jobim, de Moraes) – 3:45 5
"The Girl from Ipanema" (Antonio Carlos Jobim, Vinicius de Moraes, Norman Gimbel) – 5:24 4
"Doralice" (Dorival Caymmi, Antonio Almeida) – 2:46 1
"O Grande Amor" (Jobim, de Moraes) – 5:27 1
"Para Machucar Meu Coração" (Ary Barroso) – 5:05 0
"Vivo Sonhando" (Jobim) – 3:040


Steve Shasta, Friday, 15 August 2008 17:21 (seventeen years ago)

corcavado

Jordan, Friday, 15 August 2008 17:25 (seventeen years ago)

Só Danço Samba

PappaWheelie V, Friday, 15 August 2008 17:32 (seventeen years ago)

Vivo Sonhando a close 2nd

PappaWheelie V, Friday, 15 August 2008 17:33 (seventeen years ago)

Crap: I voted for "Corcovado" before remembering how much I like the sax solo on "So Danco Samba"

nabisco, Friday, 15 August 2008 17:35 (seventeen years ago)

Corcovado but I could easily have given it to the title track or So Danco Samba

Shakey Mo Collier, Friday, 15 August 2008 17:36 (seventeen years ago)

Corcovado. 1st couple lines set the mood for all of bossa nova.

Granny Dainger, Friday, 15 August 2008 17:52 (seventeen years ago)

Not that this thread needs another "me too!" voice, but "Corcovado" is one of the most perfect songs ever. My mom isn't too familiar with Brazilian music, but she loved this when I played it for her - she said, "her voice is so pretty." I'm afraid that may have been due to some perceived similarity to Joan Baez, and personally, I think it's his voice that really makes it....I haven't been able to find too many other songs of his that really bring out the gentle beauty in his voice the way this one does. I will say that "Para Machucar Meu Coração" is definitely my #2 pic from this album, and "Caminhos Cruzados" is one other song of his that consistently gets me in that weepy kind of mood. I don't doubt that there's another thread entirely devoted to it, but I don't really feel like searching for it and any other suggestions would be appreciated.

viborg, Friday, 15 August 2008 18:30 (seventeen years ago)

no Chega De Suadade ?

i vote Desafinado

san frandisco, Friday, 15 August 2008 18:51 (seventeen years ago)

"Só Danço Samba"

Michael White, Friday, 15 August 2008 19:08 (seventeen years ago)

"Chega de Saudade" was not on this record, no.

nabisco, Friday, 15 August 2008 19:09 (seventeen years ago)

which one of these was the pharcyde joint

and what, Friday, 15 August 2008 19:17 (seventeen years ago)

wasn't on this album

Jordan, Friday, 15 August 2008 19:20 (seventeen years ago)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U30vT17TtHw

Jordan, Friday, 15 August 2008 19:25 (seventeen years ago)

sorry, didn't know you were just doin this album...

san frandisco, Friday, 15 August 2008 19:28 (seventeen years ago)

dumb mistake

san frandisco, Friday, 15 August 2008 19:29 (seventeen years ago)

Speaking of Pharcyde/Runnin' and Bossa samples, Dilla also sampled Walter Wanderly's Summer Samba for De La's Supa MC's

PappaWheelie V, Friday, 15 August 2008 20:19 (seventeen years ago)

Pharcyde sample was "One Note Samba" which is on the live album, I think

Shakey Mo Collier, Friday, 15 August 2008 20:21 (seventeen years ago)

nah, it was suadade (the link i posted)

Jordan, Friday, 15 August 2008 20:23 (seventeen years ago)

agh you are right. man I know SOMEONE sampled One Note Samba, I'm blankin on what it is thoug... hmmmm

Shakey Mo Collier, Friday, 15 August 2008 20:36 (seventeen years ago)

Stereolab sampled the Switched On Bossa Nova version of One Note Samba.

Steve Shasta, Friday, 15 August 2008 20:47 (seventeen years ago)

Gene Lees wrote the English lyrics for "Corcovado"? Who knew?

James Redd and the Blecchs, Friday, 15 August 2008 21:47 (seventeen years ago)

Who reads liner notes?

James Redd and the Blecchs, Friday, 15 August 2008 21:47 (seventeen years ago)

"Desafinado", although I prefer the instrumental version on "Jazz Samba"

Geir Hongro, Friday, 15 August 2008 23:03 (seventeen years ago)

Let us now commence some much-broader category that will allow me to vote for Tom e Elis "Aguas de Marco"

nabisco, Friday, 15 August 2008 23:13 (seventeen years ago)

nabisco, you never answered my long-ago-asked-and-now-unsearchable question about the chord changes of that song, although upstream on the same unfindable thread I seem to remember you waxing nabiscoesque about the changes to "The Long And Winding Road."

James Redd and the Blecchs, Saturday, 16 August 2008 02:10 (seventeen years ago)

Which one is the one that sounds like mario kart?

bell_labs, Saturday, 16 August 2008 02:21 (seventeen years ago)

Let us now commence some much-broader category that will allow me to vote for Tom e Elis "Aguas de Marco"

-- nabisco, Friday, August 15, 2008 11:13 PM (Yesterday) Bookmark Link

cosign

s1ocki, Saturday, 16 August 2008 17:03 (seventeen years ago)

Automatic thread bump. This poll is closing tomorrow.

ILX System, Wednesday, 20 August 2008 23:01 (seventeen years ago)

Automatic thread bump. This poll's results are now in.

ILX System, Thursday, 21 August 2008 23:01 (seventeen years ago)

"Vivo Sonhando" (Jobim) – 3:04 0

ppssshhhhhhh

PappaWheelie V, Thursday, 21 August 2008 23:39 (seventeen years ago)

RIP Dorival Caymmi.

James Redd and the Blecchs, Friday, 22 August 2008 02:22 (seventeen years ago)

seven years pass...

The Girl from Ipanema came up on a shuffle today and made me feel good.

calzino, Tuesday, 5 April 2016 23:39 (nine years ago)

agh you are right. man I know SOMEONE sampled One Note Samba, I'm blankin on what it is thoug... hmmmm

― Shakey Mo Collier, Friday, August 15, 2008 1:36 PM (7 years ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

Stereolab sampled the Switched On Bossa Nova version of One Note Samba.

― Steve Shasta, Friday, August 15, 2008 1:47 PM (7 years ago)

Stereolab sampled Perrey and Kingsley's One Note Samba at the very end of Peng's "I'm Going Out Of My Way".

Jersey Al (Albert R. Broccoli), Wednesday, 6 April 2016 01:10 (nine years ago)

Stereolab COVERED "one note samba" unless I'm misunderstanding those posts

lute bro (brimstead), Wednesday, 6 April 2016 01:14 (nine years ago)

nine years pass...

A very nice retrospective review by Andy Beta:

https://pitchfork.com/reviews/albums/stan-getz-joao-gilberto-getz-gilberto

I especially enjoyed his tribute to "Desafinado":

While it had instantly entered the jazz canon and had been recorded by Gilberto, “Desafinado” gets a definitive reading here, with the attuned ears of producer Creed Taylor and engineer Phil Ramone capturing its indelible essence. Jobim penned the song with Newton Mendonça as a cheeky homage to all the tin-eared samba singers they had heard over the years: “If you tell me l’m out of tune, my love/You must know that causes me immense pain,” states its purpose clearly in the opening couplet.

Getz’s Grammy-winning version of it was not quite right, so the Getz/Gilberto version detunes it properly. The melody and harmony are in E-flat major, but the end of verse lines lie outside of that scale, the harmony sliding down in half steps that create a subtle dissonance and ending in a F7 b5. Gilberto’s delivery is smooth enough that only upon close listening do his vowels clang and feel off. (You can hear a clearer example of this approach in English, as on this version of Gershwin’s “’S Wonderful,” the held vowels sour and then subtly sweeten as the harmony finally aligns, like a foul ball just curling fair.) Easy as it sounds, in practice “Desafinado” is one of the trickiest songs of the 20th century, with no verse-chorus structure, running 74 measures long, featuring over 20 chords in the harmony, and full of subtle shifts that slide underfoot like the white sands of Ipanema Beach, leaving even the most sure-footed singer and player wobbling and off-balance.

Indexed, Monday, 20 October 2025 13:49 (two months ago)


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