As varied as my tastes are, my rap listening is mostly new mainstream and mixtape stuff by the big artists - definitely nothing considered underground hip hop beyond what people are calling hipster rap in 2008. I'll dabble a bit but it seems that for every good El-P album I find I'll encounter three Flobots. Since his catalog is extensive and varied and I can easily affix the label "stalwart" to him, I figured Kool Keith is as good a question to ask as any. So I ask of ye: Kool Keith - what's good? Which of his pseudonyms should I avoid? Anywhere else I should be looking?
― skygreenleopard, Sunday, 24 August 2008 18:28 (seventeen years ago)
dr. octagon is essential. as are "dr. dooom" and "sex style"
i don't think you'd need anything else, besides the ultramagnetic stuff
― cutty, Sunday, 24 August 2008 18:29 (seventeen years ago)
Cool, I'll look into it. Heard a TOMC3 track the other day, and my ears perked up like they do when I hear some boom bap that I actually enjoy hearing. Lyrics were meh, but it definitely made me curious so I decided to start digging.
― skygreenleopard, Sunday, 24 August 2008 18:32 (seventeen years ago)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dr._Octagonecologyst
― cutty, Sunday, 24 August 2008 18:42 (seventeen years ago)
Dr. Octagon is an extraterrestrial, time-traveling surgeon / obstetric gynecologist who has sex with his patients and nurses.
― cutty, Sunday, 24 August 2008 18:44 (seventeen years ago)
I think I'm liking this, hahaha - if his beats are has good as his pen names, I'm gonna be buying quite a few CDs.
― skygreenleopard, Sunday, 24 August 2008 21:20 (seventeen years ago)
yo, you're lying he's lying.. and she's lying my man over there he's lying you know what? you're building up a bunch of lies straight lies
you got mad guns? i don't believe you you got eleven cars? i don't believe you you got the block scared? i don't believe you youse a bugged thug? i don't believe you you doin jail time? i don't believe you you got the newest benz? i don't believe you you got the girls ready? i don't believe you you movin big weight? i don't believe you you cook in steel pots? i don't believe you you goin on soul train? i don't believe you you cashin royalties? i don't believe you you did a video? i don't believe you you smackin everybody? i don't believe you you closin all deals? i don't believe you you say you manage people? i don't believe you youse a movie star? i don't believe you you work with warner brothers? i don't believe you you down with jamie foxx? i don't believe you youse a druglord? i don't believe you you pay your mortgage? i don't believe you you datin fine chicks? i don't believe you you travel solo kid? i don't believe you [ Find more Lyrics at www.mp3lyrics.org/3CmT ] you smackin anybody? i don't believe you you got your own label? i don't believe you you say you never lease? i don't believe you you say your record's hot? i don't believe you you workin hard lady? i don't believe you you like to clock work? i don't believe you you at your brother's house? i don't believe you you tour with babyface? i don't believe you you mix on ni boards? i don't believe you you talk to aaron hall? i don't believe you you play for the charlotte hornets? i don't believe you you buyin a rolls royce? i don't believe you you got signin power? i don't believe you you makin hit records? i don't believe you you say zach's your cousin? i don't believe you you sellin knicks tickets? i don't believe you you givin afterparties? i don't believe you you at the superbowl? i don't believe you you bought a mansion? i don't believe you you think you hype rappin? i don't believe you you say you are the man? i don't believe you your mother thinks she's fly? i don't believe you you say your pops is cool? i don't believe you you got your aunt a diamond? i don't believe you you got the kids a gift? i don't believe you you movin out to cali? i don't believe you you say you doin jacks? i don't believe you you makin millions kid? i don't believe you you say you sellin furniture? i don't believe you you work construction? i don't believe you you got your hair done? i don't believe you you mess with lauryn hill? i don't believe you you danced with james brown? i don't believe you you own a dodge truck? i don't believe you you work at 7/11
― blunt, Sunday, 24 August 2008 21:29 (seventeen years ago)
Seek: "The Girls Don't Like the Job," "You Live at Home With Your Mom," "Alpha Omega"
Destroy: Spankmaster
― Joseph McCombs, Sunday, 24 August 2008 21:51 (seventeen years ago)
S: Masters of Illusion
― Granny Dainger, Monday, 25 August 2008 14:11 (seventeen years ago)
I got my helmet on you can't tell me I'm not in space
― RabiesAngentleman, Monday, 25 August 2008 14:13 (seventeen years ago)
Dr. Octagonecologist Lost in Space Sex Style Spankmaster Ultra (w/Tim Dog, I think is out of print...?) Critical Beatdown Dr. Doooooom
all great
― Shakey Mo Collier, Monday, 25 August 2008 14:30 (seventeen years ago)
Also, the search function is your friend
Search And Destroy: Kool Keith
his track on Prince Among Thieves is also pretty great
― Shakey Mo Collier, Monday, 25 August 2008 14:32 (seventeen years ago)
Just got "Lost in Space" last week. Some duds on there, but the good stuff is soooo good.
I'd like to pick up that Nogatco thing and "Project Polaroid". Quite liked the couple of songs I've heard from each.
― Øystein, Monday, 25 August 2008 14:50 (seventeen years ago)
Project Polaroid is not bad, one of the few recent things he's done that I liked - has a great Who sample on one song. Lyrics are pretty random tho.
― Shakey Mo Collier, Monday, 25 August 2008 16:26 (seventeen years ago)
aren't random lyrics the true beauty of kool keith anyway? i only listen to keith for his random, fucked up lyrics.
― brotherlovesdub, Monday, 25 August 2008 16:50 (seventeen years ago)
most of the time ghostface is just as deranged as kool keith
― cutty, Monday, 25 August 2008 17:03 (seventeen years ago)
project polaroid's great. for the overviewer, particularly. cool herc was eleven years old in jamaica.
s: leave me alone for pretty simple production and really fast rambling. also grudgingly search 'you live at home with your mom' just because it's such a good title.
― schlump, Monday, 25 August 2008 17:18 (seventeen years ago)
TRUE STORY: Keith likes to whip ziplock bags containing chicken wings and capri suns out into the audience at his shows. One time my friend - a pretty tall dude - got hit right in the face with one of those.
So, uh, I guess D: getting hit in the face with chicken wings and capri suns at Kool Keith shows.
― nickalicious, Monday, 25 August 2008 23:41 (seventeen years ago)
I hadn't listened to any of this in forever. I can see Sex Style in it's case over there.
― nickalicious, Monday, 25 August 2008 23:42 (seventeen years ago)
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yeah but i always get the sense that ghost is pretty much a regular dude, just one that raps real fucked up esoteric type shit a lot of times..whereas keith seems genuinely mentally not all there...or not necessarily not all there intelligence wise just...like there's a name probably for what keith is, if i were a psychologist i could probably tell you.
― M@tt He1ges0n, Monday, 25 August 2008 23:45 (seventeen years ago)
they do really different things as rappers imho. and the recent Keith stuff I've heard it was really like he was just stringing random words together, free-association style, not even rhyming really. Ghost doesn't do this.
― Shakey Mo Collier, Monday, 25 August 2008 23:59 (seventeen years ago)
getting hit with a chicken wing at a kool keith show is the highlight of the show. he raps over his own vocal cuts. does about 2mins of each song, rapping over his own tracks!
Destroy: Kool Keith live.
― brotherlovesdub, Tuesday, 26 August 2008 00:14 (seventeen years ago)
i did not say their styles were similar, i'm talking psychological profiles
― cutty, Tuesday, 26 August 2008 00:15 (seventeen years ago)
the more interviews etc i see of him, the less crazy i think he is. the phrase "taking the piss" comes to mind.
― Granny Dainger, Tuesday, 26 August 2008 00:46 (seventeen years ago)
exhibit A: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KKq-kSlKiTM
hahahaha
all great recommendations, guys. I get really happy when I hear indie rap I actually end up liking or remembering.
― skygreenleopard, Wednesday, 17 September 2008 04:01 (seventeen years ago)
check out Edan's two albums. first one is goofy but great. 2nd more serious but still great.
― Granny Dainger, Wednesday, 17 September 2008 14:37 (seventeen years ago)
I always felt that Dr. Octagon wasn't as good as it was in my head. The production is pretty good, but the lyrics smack of this weird, forced "look how car-azzzzy I am" that Kool Keith seems to impart into a lot of his material.
― Shushtari (res), Wednesday, 17 September 2008 14:41 (seventeen years ago)
bionic Oldsmobile
― carne asada, Wednesday, 17 September 2008 14:43 (seventeen years ago)
Good call. I'll second this advice.
― ilxor, Thursday, 18 September 2008 06:18 (seventeen years ago)
Anyone heard Dr Dooom 2 yet? Comes out next week, I think.
― Øystein, Thursday, 18 September 2008 11:13 (seventeen years ago)
Edan's "Beauty and the Beat" is fantastic
― Shakey Mo Collier, Thursday, 18 September 2008 15:11 (seventeen years ago)
>Anyone heard Dr Dooom 2 yet?
Boring and mostly pointless. He spends most of the album grumbling about rappers who sell more than he does and calling them sellouts and Uncle Toms. Plus the opening track is about how much he hates Simon Cowell.
― unperson, Thursday, 18 September 2008 15:13 (seventeen years ago)
"He spends most of the album grumbling about rappers who sell more than he does and calling them sellouts and Uncle Toms. Plus the opening track is about how much he hates Simon Cowell."
that sounds like something i want to hear.
― brotherlovesdub, Thursday, 18 September 2008 16:22 (seventeen years ago)
me too! how are the beats? seriously the most annoying thing about recent Kool Keith stuff I bought (particularly the Return of Dr. Octagon, but also Project Polaroid, to a lesser extent) was that the music sucked and was mixed WAY louder than Keith's vocals. Bring back Kut Masta Kurt!
― Shakey Mo Collier, Thursday, 18 September 2008 16:25 (seventeen years ago)
yeah Phil's capsule makes it sound like I'll like it
― J0hn D., Thursday, 18 September 2008 17:23 (seventeen years ago)
From this
"My favorite Kool Keith name is Fly Ricky The Winetaster."
― Neil S, Friday, 21 November 2008 13:13 (seventeen years ago)