Funky jazz ala Headhunters-era Herbie

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I have a bunch of Herbie Hancock albums (Headhunters, Thrust, Secrets, Man-Child) that I absolutely love, but I'm looking to branch out into other artists with a similar jazz-funk ethos. Actually I'm less concerned with the jazz side - a track like "Hang Up Your Hang Ups" from Man-Child where it's primarily funky for the first six minutes but then breaks into a beautiful jazzy piano solo is a good example. It's gotta be SUPER funky, lots of primitive synthesizers/electronic treatments is a plus.

The Breadmaster, Tuesday, 26 August 2008 23:00 (seventeen years ago)

It's not much like Headhunters, but Mel Brown's "Chicken Grease" is superfunky. Mostly a guitar record, though.

Oilyrags, Tuesday, 26 August 2008 23:03 (seventeen years ago)

Sorry, "Chicken Fat"

Oilyrags, Tuesday, 26 August 2008 23:05 (seventeen years ago)

You already know Funkadelic and Parliament, do you?

I mean, if may be strange for me who isn't much into funk usually (actually I dislike James Brown rather than dislike funk in general), but I do like George Clinton, and I think the main reason is that it reminds me of some of the fusion stuff that I like (like, for instance, 70s Herbie Hancock)

You may also want to check out the three Weather Report albums released when Alphonso Johnson played bass with the band. Surely, I think Jaco Pastorius was an even better guy for them, but Johnson was the funkier one, and particularly "Mysterious Traveller" and "Tale Spinnin'" are rather funky in places.

Geir Hongro, Wednesday, 27 August 2008 22:33 (seventeen years ago)

There's this little LP Miles Davis cut in 1972 called On the Corner. Buy it in all formats.

inhibitionist, Wednesday, 27 August 2008 23:53 (seventeen years ago)

Eddie Henderson - Sunburst

P'zone, Thursday, 28 August 2008 00:44 (seventeen years ago)

Thanks for the tips so far. I do like Parliament/Funkadelic. I saw them live a couple of times in the late 80's/early 90's - mindblowing - but their albums on the whole I find hit and miss. "Let's Take It To The Stage" for example is about 50% awesome.

The Breadmaster, Thursday, 28 August 2008 00:44 (seventeen years ago)

donald byrd had some funky stuff

M@tt He1ges0n, Thursday, 28 August 2008 01:02 (seventeen years ago)

Byrd's Ethiopian Knights is worth checking out. For other Headhunters in particular, Julian Priester's Love, Love is good.

Sparkle Motion, Thursday, 28 August 2008 05:47 (seventeen years ago)

Sunburst would be my first recommendation too, considering that it features members of the Headhunters and Herbie's pre-Headhunters band, with George Duke on keyboards. It's a bit more abstract than Herbies' funk albums, but quite funky nevertheless.

I think Eddie Harris' early-to-mid-seventies albums might work well too. There a tune on I Need Some Money that very much reminds me of "Chameleon".

Tuomas, Thursday, 28 August 2008 05:54 (seventeen years ago)

You could also check out Ronnie Foster's Cheshire Cat. It's a bit lighter and breezier than Herbie's stuff, but it still has lots of funky synth playing.

Tuomas, Thursday, 28 August 2008 05:55 (seventeen years ago)

Charles Earland's "Odyssey" features alot of, well, Odyssey.

Sparkle Motion, Thursday, 28 August 2008 06:00 (seventeen years ago)

it's straight funk but i'd recommend some early Bar-Kays stuff for a lot of great 70's keyboard stuff + horns etc.

Jordan, Thursday, 28 August 2008 13:01 (seventeen years ago)

some of this might qualify: http://www.answers.com/topic/groove-jammy-rare-groove-classics-from-the-muse-catalog

Granny Dainger, Thursday, 28 August 2008 14:35 (seventeen years ago)

this I like better, but I'm a drummer so I would. Soul Drums by Purdie I like even more but it's harder to find.

Granny Dainger, Thursday, 28 August 2008 14:39 (seventeen years ago)

sadly the Purdie stuff doesn't have any "primitive synthesizers/electronic treatments" going on

Granny Dainger, Thursday, 28 August 2008 14:40 (seventeen years ago)

Not sure what "primitive" means in this context, but how about Earth, Wind & Fire & Ramsey Lewis, "Sun Goddess"? Or Les McCann & Eddie Harris, "Compared to What"?

Joseph McCombs, Thursday, 28 August 2008 15:44 (seventeen years ago)

I'd recommend some Larry Young, particularly Lawrence of Newark and Fuel.

Myonga Vön Bontee, Thursday, 28 August 2008 16:28 (seventeen years ago)

"primitive" synthesizers - perhaps i should have just said "vintage". the 70's models are primitive compared to today's, but they sounded great. herbie especially could do crazy shit with the arp. it always sounded like some weird alien signal. "sextant" (which i love although it's definitely more out-there and not so funky) is full of strange bleep and bloops.

The Breadmaster, Friday, 29 August 2008 05:53 (seventeen years ago)

Miroslav Vitous -- Magical Shepard

earlnash, Friday, 29 August 2008 06:18 (seventeen years ago)

Mysterious Traveller, Larry Young and Eddie Henderson are also good suggestions and has the synth sounds.

You might know this stuff, but you might not, but if you like more the band sound of say Bitches Brew or In A Silent Way era Miles Davis, there is some really nice funky jazz that borders on early fusion. You won't usually find the synth sounds or the huge electric bass, but you will definitely find the groove and great back beat drumming on some end of the 60s early 70s recordings by Donald Byrd, Grant Green, Lou Donaldson, Lonnie Liston Smith, Dr. Lonnie Smith, Pharoah Sanders, etc. or things with Idris Muhammad playing drums. It definitely has a sound vibe of that era, even without the synths. It's all good music, at least to me.

earlnash, Friday, 29 August 2008 06:34 (seventeen years ago)

X-Post to breadmaster: They were primitive in that you could only play one note. Of couse, for this particular genre that didn't matter too much as funk has never been much about fat synth chords anyway.

Geir Hongro, Friday, 29 August 2008 09:03 (seventeen years ago)

Earth Wind & Fire surely a good call btw. (although they didn't really use a lot of synths before the 80s, did they?

Geir Hongro, Friday, 29 August 2008 09:05 (seventeen years ago)

All 'n All is from 1977, and it has already plenty of synths.

Tuomas, Friday, 29 August 2008 09:59 (seventeen years ago)

two weeks pass...

George Duke's Faces in Reflection (MPS - 1974) has some ARP, Echoplex, and Fender Rhodes going on.

paul_in_dc, Saturday, 13 September 2008 17:36 (seventeen years ago)


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