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how do you search for something in ilm without bringing up results from ilx (iloveeverything ilovefilm ilovefuckinggoats etc)?

this has been bugging me forever. surely i'm being stupid and missing something obvious? apologies in advance if so. also for not mentioning music in this question. am i banned now?

messiahwannabe, Friday, 29 August 2008 04:05 (seventeen years ago)

ps. checked the faq, checked the search help, checked the boolean search instructions, searched "search" on ilx, no help.

messiahwannabe, Friday, 29 August 2008 04:10 (seventeen years ago)

I'm in the same boat.

RabiesAngentleman, Friday, 29 August 2008 04:11 (seventeen years ago)

I'm not sure you can do that. The search function here is notorious and often complained about.

RabiesAngentleman, Friday, 29 August 2008 04:12 (seventeen years ago)

the short answer is that right now you can't, but this is changing and soon you will be able to perform board-specific search

electricsound, Friday, 29 August 2008 04:13 (seventeen years ago)

intitle:residents inurl:boardid=41 site:ilxor.com

libcrypt, Friday, 29 August 2008 04:17 (seventeen years ago)

ok, figured out a quick workaround:

google: "your search term" +http://www.ilxor.com/ILX

no, i take it back, a few different searches like that indicates that that doesn't work very well after all. crap.

messiahwannabe, Friday, 29 August 2008 04:18 (seventeen years ago)

> intitle:residents inurl:boardid=41 site:ilxor.com

sweet! that works. thanks :)

messiahwannabe, Friday, 29 August 2008 04:21 (seventeen years ago)

^^wait, so how do I use this? Do I just plug that into google along with my search term and it only searches ilm (or boardid=whatever for whatever board)? Or do I plug that into the ilx search?

RabiesAngentleman, Friday, 29 August 2008 04:34 (seventeen years ago)

Change "residents" to whatever you like or omit "intitle:residents" altogether if you don't want to do a title-based search.

libcrypt, Friday, 29 August 2008 04:37 (seventeen years ago)

Yes, use it in Google.

libcrypt, Friday, 29 August 2008 04:38 (seventeen years ago)

Awesome, thanks for the workaround.

RabiesAngentleman, Friday, 29 August 2008 04:40 (seventeen years ago)

nine months pass...

it might be worth mentioning that the insite search function now seems to be functioning much better than before. in fact, i would venture to say, better than the workaround mentioned above - at least for me, just a second ago, for searching one word in the title of a thread. you can just click search (not stupid search question) at the top of the page, type into the first search box (which defaults to title search) then easily narrow your search to one or all of the ilxor lists now.

however, while this search function is working, erm, fairly well... it's still a bit wonky. i got some strangely random results a few times from all sorts of things: boolean searches, user searches, searching ilm vs. searching all, etc. then again, the above workaround via google (intitle:yoursearchterm inurl:boardid=41 site:ilxor.com) is probably equally wonky, but in different ways. so, if you're trying to do some advanced searching, it still might be worth trying both the inhouse search function and google or whatever...

so, does anyone have further helpful suggestions for advanced searching of this nice but wonky site? or should i just shut up and get used to it?

messiahwannabe, Wednesday, 24 June 2009 16:42 (sixteen years ago)

I'd like to know how to find a post by a particular ilxor without having to know their e-mail address.

The example given now is text:"nu shooz" AND loginId:myemailaddr✧✧✧@addr✧✧✧.c✧✧, but what if I wanted to find a post made by someone else?

Pleasant Plains, Wednesday, 24 June 2009 19:10 (sixteen years ago)

Check out "The fields you can use are" - immediately under that example. Except that it doesn't find your BEST ALTERNATE PARKINSONS SUFFERER poll opening post when I search like this:

text:"Michael Mukasey" AND displayName:"Pleasant Plains"

StanM, Wednesday, 24 June 2009 19:25 (sixteen years ago)

Hopefully it is better than before, because I rewrote it from scratch.

Pleasant Plains, it'll work for display names too, so text:"nu shooz" AND displayName:"Pleasant Plains". Oops sorry, you just said that, Stan.

I don't know if the thing it didn't find was very new. Things aren't indexed immediately. A job runs every ten minutes and indexes all the things posted in the last ten minutes, so anything very recent (the last few minutes), might not yet be found in the search.

Keith, Wednesday, 24 June 2009 19:32 (sixteen years ago)

The post I was looking for, to check if displayName worked, was from "Wednesday, June 17, 2009 8:16 PM (1 week ago)" - but then it WAS the opening post of a poll thread, maybe that's why it didn't work as expected (I think I read that mods have problems seeing poll posts or something? Or was that only when images were involved? anyway, opening posts of polls are somehow different)

StanM, Wednesday, 24 June 2009 19:36 (sixteen years ago)

Wonder if that was because it was part of a poll question.

Pleasant Plains, Wednesday, 24 June 2009 19:36 (sixteen years ago)

Duh. 8:16 PM is just my time zone, obv.

StanM, Wednesday, 24 June 2009 19:36 (sixteen years ago)

Thanks for the tip. I kept trying displaynameid to no avail.

Pleasant Plains, Wednesday, 24 June 2009 19:41 (sixteen years ago)

Does this only work with thread titles?

e.g. say I want to find this post: Should Knut die?

and I look using

text:"fruitcake" AND displayName:"burt_stanton"

I get nothing.

but if I search for

text:"Knut" AND displayName:"StanM"

I get the thread (both the title and the opening post contain "Knut") as a search result.

StanM, Wednesday, 24 June 2009 19:42 (sixteen years ago)

Hmm. Not sure. Was a year ago I wrote this stuff. Without actually looking at the code, I wonder if it is tacking on the title to the query too. So maybe the instructions are what's wrong.

As for polls, I don't think it should be an issue, as they're basically just the first message in a thread. The actual contents of the poll isn't indexed, but I would have to do work to prevent the first message being indexed, so that shouldn't be an issue.

It probably is the first thing. I'll take a look when I'm next looking.

Keith, Wednesday, 24 June 2009 20:07 (sixteen years ago)

Ah OK. Bit confusing.

With the: text:"fruitcake" AND displayName:"burt_stanton"

Example, you also need to click "Posts" or it does default to searching the thread index. It's because there are two separate actual indexes: one for threads, and another for messages. If you do the threads one, it searches the threads index and naturally doesn't find it.

Keith, Wednesday, 24 June 2009 20:15 (sixteen years ago)

Oh and the mods and polls thing is just a bug. Ought to get round to fixing that.

Keith, Wednesday, 24 June 2009 20:20 (sixteen years ago)

Thanks! For everything! You rule!

StanM, Wednesday, 24 June 2009 20:33 (sixteen years ago)


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