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2009 Pop Conference at EMP|SFM

Call for Proposals: 2009 Pop Conference at EMP|SFM
Dance Music Sex Romance: Pop and the Body Politic
April 16-19, 2009, Seattle, WA

Though Prince seems to have bowdlerized "D.M.S.R." in his concerts since becoming a Jehovah's Witness, the relationship of pop music to sex, love, physical movement, and the body rarely stays hidden very long. For this year's Pop Conference we invite presentations, addressing any period or style of music, that bring erotic and sensual issues to the forefront and connect them to political and aesthetic concerns. Rock and roll has long congratulated itself on riding the Big Beat over all sanctimonious opposition, but can we take our sense of these archetypal struggles somewhere beyond, say, Footloose?

Topics might include, but are not limited to:

* Languages of desire and union in pop: the relationship of ballads, tenderness, and couplehood to carnality and the commerce of bodies.
* Dancing and dance crazes as forces in pop history and the dancefloor as a particularly charged space of friction, play, and unsettling possibility.
* Pop passion as a conduit for capitalism, modernization, and transnational flows, but also local scenes, community formation, and religion.
* How the pop body is marked by, and marks out, race, gender, nationality, class, and region; music as a means for bodies sharing space.
* Music and the negotiation of sexual norms: sonic fetishism, erotics of pain and disorder, representations of beauty and ugliness.
* Social media and D.M.S.R. A YouTube answer video as a kind of love letter; the libidinal economy of music-sharing communities and Web 2.0 culture.
* Scandal and excess: the pop urge to take it to the limit; celebrity culture and indie puritanism; humor and hyperbole.
* Voice, gesture, and other modalities of embodiment and disembodiment.
* The diva figure, with all the complexity/trouble/pleasure that term carries.
* The many musical iterations of what a German Jewish immigrant, arrived at the dawn of modern pop, called "Makin' Whoopee."

Send proposals of up to 250 words and a 50 word bio to Eric Weisbard at EricW @ empsfm .org and Eric .Weisbard @ gmail .com by December 16, 2008. Panel proposals (short collective statement and full individual proposals/bios) and roundtable proposals (full collective statement, bios for all panelists) are welcome. Lively writing and unorthodox approaches are particularly welcome. For questions, contact the organizer or program committee members: Garnette Cadogan, Kyra Gaunt (Baruch College), David Grubbs (Brooklyn College), Margie Maynard (EMP|SFM), Michele Myers (KEXP), Diane Pecknold (University of Louisville), Ann Powers (Los Angeles Times), Sonnet Retman (University of Washington), Carlo Rotella (Boston College), Alexandra Vazquez (Princeton University), and Carl Wilson (The Globe and Mail).

Ned Raggett, Thursday, 11 September 2008 12:13 (sixteen years ago)

I may take a look at "pegging" through the lens of Andy Kim's "Rock Me Gently" and Hamilton, Joe Frank & Reynolds' "Don't Pull Your Love (Out)."

Joseph McCombs, Friday, 12 September 2008 05:20 (sixteen years ago)

one month passes...

Thining about trying to go this year.

corrie ham (roxymuzak), Sunday, 2 November 2008 04:07 (sixteen years ago)

Yeah, come on out. It's usually fairly nice here by April.

If Timi Yuro would be still alive, most other singers could shut up, Sunday, 2 November 2008 04:27 (sixteen years ago)

Indeed! It'll be worth the trip.

Ned Raggett, Sunday, 2 November 2008 04:28 (sixteen years ago)

Go Roxy!

Santa Esmeralda (The Reverend), Sunday, 2 November 2008 04:35 (sixteen years ago)

Never been west of the Mississippi by the way.

corrie ham (roxymuzak), Sunday, 2 November 2008 12:34 (sixteen years ago)

West of the Mississippi is pretty awesome

"JOE THE PLUMBER, I'LL WHUP YOUR ASS" (The Reverend), Sunday, 2 November 2008 12:50 (sixteen years ago)

i shall be exploring it next year!

corrie ham (roxymuzak), Sunday, 2 November 2008 14:21 (sixteen years ago)

An American Tale: Roxy Goes West

Ned Raggett, Sunday, 2 November 2008 14:28 (sixteen years ago)

About time there was a sequel to that thing.

If Timi Yuro would be still alive, most other singers could shut up, Sunday, 2 November 2008 22:54 (sixteen years ago)

Or a sequel to the sequel or whatever. (Oops?)

If Timi Yuro would be still alive, most other singers could shut up, Sunday, 2 November 2008 22:54 (sixteen years ago)

"an american fail"

corrie ham (roxymuzak), Monday, 3 November 2008 16:21 (sixteen years ago)

one month passes...

Did anyone else submit a proposal? I sent in one re Millie Jackson's Caught Up album.

Joseph McCombs, Wednesday, 17 December 2008 19:15 (sixteen years ago)

Yup, Alfred and I submitted a joint one on Bernard Sumner.

Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 17 December 2008 19:43 (sixteen years ago)

Hurray!

Alfred, Lord Sotosyn, Wednesday, 17 December 2008 20:16 (sixteen years ago)

neworder_pr0n.ppt

Gino-Vanellyville (Mackro Mackro), Wednesday, 17 December 2008 20:31 (sixteen years ago)

four weeks pass...

Initial word going out (alas, Alfred and I did not make the cut). Anyone get in?

Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 14 January 2009 21:48 (sixteen years ago)

I am in. I'm doing something on this:

Matos W.K., Wednesday, 14 January 2009 22:10 (sixteen years ago)

hahaha I had no idea YouTubes were embedded on here now!

Matos W.K., Wednesday, 14 January 2009 22:10 (sixteen years ago)

Part of the joy. And congratulations!

Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 14 January 2009 22:20 (sixteen years ago)

Yeah, congrats! I look forward to seeing it.

The Reverend (rev), Wednesday, 14 January 2009 22:27 (sixteen years ago)

I'm happy/relieved to say that I am in, talking about The Meatmen's "Tooling for Anus" and queer punk minstrelsy.

Neotropical pygmy squirrel, Wednesday, 14 January 2009 22:33 (sixteen years ago)

Oh, and I'm on a panel about sampling too. Double trouble!

Neotropical pygmy squirrel, Wednesday, 14 January 2009 22:34 (sixteen years ago)

I got in! It'll be about Babylon songs--watch for Faster Pussycat, WASP, the Dolls, Steely Dan, maybe some Jeremiah Wright...

dr. phil, Thursday, 15 January 2009 02:14 (sixteen years ago)

Um, Max Romeo, maybe?

ilx chilton (James Redd and the Blecchs), Thursday, 15 January 2009 02:15 (sixteen years ago)

Congrats, Matos and NPS.

dr. phil, Thursday, 15 January 2009 02:16 (sixteen years ago)

Not much reggae in this one. That'd be a presentation all its own.

dr. phil, Thursday, 15 January 2009 02:17 (sixteen years ago)

Congrats MM, NPS and Dr. Phil! I didn't make the cut, but I'll be attending.

Joseph McCombs, Thursday, 15 January 2009 04:24 (sixteen years ago)

Already got my ticket -- will be arriving a day before the conference so if anyone wants to do a dinner get-together before it all kicks in...

Ned Raggett, Thursday, 15 January 2009 04:32 (sixteen years ago)

I'm in! I'm presenting a survey of songs about "The Last Dance."

dad a, Thursday, 15 January 2009 15:18 (sixteen years ago)

Oh yes? Including Disco Inferno's song?

Ned Raggett, Thursday, 15 January 2009 15:45 (sixteen years ago)

Neil Young?

Alfred, Lord Sotosyn, Thursday, 15 January 2009 15:50 (sixteen years ago)

(I've been crying hysterically for hours)

Alfred, Lord Sotosyn, Thursday, 15 January 2009 15:51 (sixteen years ago)

I'd love to use the Disco Inferno, Ned. Could I persuade you to burn me a CD? The Neil Young's a bit of an outlier I think, but I'll include it if I can figure out how the title relates to the lyrics.

Bummed the Sumner isn't happening, I was really looking forward to that and I hope you guys will find a way to present it in some other form.

dad a, Thursday, 15 January 2009 16:00 (sixteen years ago)

well, if I can go we can always improvise after a few drinks.

Alfred, Lord Sotosyn, Thursday, 15 January 2009 16:01 (sixteen years ago)

That would be worth the trip in itself. You could also treat it like Slamdance vs Sundance, bring a boombox and present a counter-conference in the hallway.

dad a, Thursday, 15 January 2009 16:07 (sixteen years ago)

I'm out, and can't afford to go, but I'll be emailing you guys for papers!

Pete Scholtes, Thursday, 15 January 2009 16:13 (sixteen years ago)

You'll be doing George Clinton's "Last Dance," right? Most Underrated Solo Single from him I think, hilarious too.

Dimension 5ive, Thursday, 15 January 2009 16:13 (sixteen years ago)

Naturally!

dad a, Thursday, 15 January 2009 16:14 (sixteen years ago)

I would expect no less.

Dimension 5ive, Thursday, 15 January 2009 16:21 (sixteen years ago)

You could also treat it like Slamdance vs Sundance, bring a boombox and present a counter-conference in the hallway.

Good lord. (But this could happen.)

And yeah, you *really really* want the Disco Inferno song, dad a, trust me -- Tom Ewing's naming of it as the second best single of the 1990s back in '99 is one of his best pieces, and explains why you'll want to include it:

http://freakytrigger.co.uk/ft/1999/12/2-disco-inferno-the-last-dance/

Ned Raggett, Thursday, 15 January 2009 16:22 (sixteen years ago)

You had me at "Including Disco Inferno's song?" Of course I need that one.

dad a, Thursday, 15 January 2009 16:32 (sixteen years ago)

Clarity. E-mail me for arrangements.

Ned Raggett, Thursday, 15 January 2009 16:36 (sixteen years ago)

Thanks, will do!

dad a, Thursday, 15 January 2009 16:38 (sixteen years ago)

Great -- uh, can you send me a followup with your e-mail address too?

Ned Raggett, Thursday, 15 January 2009 16:47 (sixteen years ago)

Oops. Will do.

dad a, Thursday, 15 January 2009 16:54 (sixteen years ago)

I'm in offering a concise history of just how you get from Frankie "Half-Pint" Jaxon singing "My Daddy Rocks Me With One Steady Roll" to Katy Perry singing "I Kissed a Girl." I call it "Gay for Play: the love that dares not speak its name certainly does sell records."

mottdeterre, Thursday, 15 January 2009 22:20 (sixteen years ago)

Hahaha, nice.

Ned Raggett, Thursday, 15 January 2009 22:21 (sixteen years ago)

Thanks.

mottdeterre, Thursday, 15 January 2009 22:25 (sixteen years ago)

TSK

Conquer Baltimore and rename it after yourself.

Ned Raggett, Friday, 3 April 2009 20:52 (sixteen years ago)

Someone PLEASE record EVERY MOMENT of that Chic talk!!!!!!

Kevin John Bozelka, Friday, 3 April 2009 20:55 (sixteen years ago)

roxy wtf! <2

sugjust blaze (The Reverend), Friday, 3 April 2009 21:11 (sixteen years ago)

Roxy, are you going to kick it with neotropical pygmy squirrel and some dude?

Bianca Jagger (jaymc), Friday, 3 April 2009 21:18 (sixteen years ago)

his name is martin!!! how rude

WHO DEY and the blowfish (roxymuzak), Friday, 3 April 2009 21:18 (sixteen years ago)

Haha, I actually thought that after I submitted.

Bianca Jagger (jaymc), Friday, 3 April 2009 21:20 (sixteen years ago)

During the Conference, on the same grounds: Laser Daft Punk
http://www.seattlelaserdome.com/

Matos W.K., Tuesday, 7 April 2009 03:17 (sixteen years ago)

Have fun, guys!

I'm crossing over into enterprise (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 7 April 2009 12:56 (sixteen years ago)

Looking forward to seeing everyone there!

Joseph McCombs, Tuesday, 7 April 2009 17:32 (sixteen years ago)

SEATTLE ILMers - Pop Conference & Video

I hope Carl's gotten enough people to videotape the sessions for youtube

curmudgeon, Friday, 10 April 2009 21:26 (sixteen years ago)

One day to go!

Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 15 April 2009 15:39 (sixteen years ago)

I hope they video everything, it would take care of the four-great-panels-at-once problem. Looking forward to meeting you all!

dad a, Thursday, 16 April 2009 00:41 (sixteen years ago)

Finishing up my paper tonight . . . stoked to see my ilx dawgs . . . it's been too long!

Neotropical pygmy squirrel, Thursday, 16 April 2009 00:58 (sixteen years ago)

I have no idea what to expect from the Diane Warren keynote.

Joseph McCombs, Thursday, 16 April 2009 03:40 (sixteen years ago)

Flames and Satan (like at every keynote).

Ned Raggett, Thursday, 16 April 2009 04:40 (sixteen years ago)

Isn't there gonna be an interview with Nona Hendryx (or maybe she's doing a presentation too)? I should just look it up. I'll be looking on youtube for 'em as I am once again missing this unfortunately.

curmudgeon, Thursday, 16 April 2009 13:08 (sixteen years ago)

Flames and Satan (like at every keynote).

Curiosity and stomach growling (like at every keynote)

I'm crossing over into enterprise (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 16 April 2009 13:09 (sixteen years ago)

Keynote very great, my report on it up at http://nedraggett.wordpress.com

Ned Raggett, Friday, 17 April 2009 07:13 (sixteen years ago)

Is anything on youtube I wonder. I guess I should go look

curmudgeon, Sunday, 19 April 2009 04:58 (sixteen years ago)

I don't see anything yet.

curmudgeon, Sunday, 19 April 2009 05:18 (sixteen years ago)

I've been reading Ned's blog posts.

curmudgeon, Sunday, 19 April 2009 14:50 (sixteen years ago)

This one sounded like fun:

Josh Kun's “If I Embarrass You, Tell Your Friends: Bawdy Jewish Broads of the 1960s and the Space of the Risque” — starts with a tribute to Eve Sedgwick, Josh’s teacher as an undergrad. Pearl Williams! Little known about the night in Florida in 1961 where her American Jewish audience heard her blue routine as she appeared in all her finery. Clip is played — sass! Brass! Miss Pearlie! “She is a mother, honey!” 47 at the time, her first recorded effort, after honing her chops doing things like opening for Louis Prima. Cheating husbands, frustrated wives, battling her audience, Yiddish as a punchline and use of Jewish tunes in her act, “a big Jewish girl with a big Jewish mouth” with her predecessors and contemporaries, but Pearl wasn’t ‘aDORable!’ Williams had done Borscht Belt but it was too quaint. Belle Barth as most immediate forebear as Lenny Bruce agreed, noting older Jewish female influences. Barth as corrupter of morals! A clip is played, oh my — “Great group, the Four Skins!” Her own Borscht Belt cycle and the “dreck circuit” (mostly piano bars in hotels), initially a singer, a clip of a routine played. Great stuff! She can belt it out. Nightclubs were their performances, a place where Jewish women could claim a space for their observations and reactions, “unable to confine themselves to their proper place.” African American culture and clubs provided the model less so than Jewish culture, Josh notes connections via music, performances and routines. “A combined Jewishness and blackness” that limited their national profile in the fifties while the Jewish pop culture in the sixties limited it further. “Other than white, too Jewish, too black.” Barth bought her own club, a space of control and manipulating the audience, “messing with the men who paid to see her.” Women as going against all the stereotypes of hags and whores, being bags who loved whore jokes, “power in embarrassment.” A question of affect, expectations — not just talking about sex but rethinking it. Barth clip played, talk of mother(fucker) figures on album covers, not Fanny Brice but Mrs Straykosh, though her character was actually wrong in Funny Girl — the risqué and grotesque was a way forward

curmudgeon, Sunday, 19 April 2009 15:00 (sixteen years ago)

Carl Wilson said they'd be posting video at ITunesU also. But I don't see anything there yet either

curmudgeon, Sunday, 19 April 2009 15:06 (sixteen years ago)

lies. all lies.

\m/ metal oaf \m/ (Ioannis), Sunday, 19 April 2009 16:37 (sixteen years ago)

Maybe after the event, they're gonna post video. It does not seem like it would have been that difficult to get some college kids to videotape things.

curmudgeon, Sunday, 19 April 2009 20:41 (sixteen years ago)

http://blog.kexp.org/blog/2009/04/18/showing-how-a-little-woman-can-whip-a-great-big-man-the-first-full-day-of-the-emp-pop-con/

Nice blog posting here also

curmudgeon, Sunday, 19 April 2009 20:53 (sixteen years ago)

Oh and:

http://tinyurl.com/popconf09sunsettavern

Ned Raggett, Sunday, 19 April 2009 23:54 (sixteen years ago)

The Mathis-Chic presentation sounds fabulous.

I'm crossing over into enterprise (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Sunday, 19 April 2009 23:57 (sixteen years ago)

friday, diane, saturday, sunday

tuppence b. bag (roxymuzak), Monday, 20 April 2009 00:03 (sixteen years ago)

Just that kind of thing.

Ned Raggett, Monday, 20 April 2009 00:06 (sixteen years ago)

Ned, you're a madman- that coverage of the conference is so thorough, and really cool of you to construct.

Neotropical pygmy squirrel, Monday, 20 April 2009 04:57 (sixteen years ago)

Hey thanks man! Yeah it's a little crazed but it's a public service. :-)

Ned Raggett, Monday, 20 April 2009 06:09 (sixteen years ago)

Yep, good job. You and KEXP both did a nice job...

curmudgeon, Monday, 20 April 2009 12:54 (sixteen years ago)

http://soul-sides.com/2009/04/top-of-pop-conference-that-is.html

curmudgeon, Wednesday, 22 April 2009 00:29 (sixteen years ago)

Great post, especially since it covers a lot of presentations I missed! (Oliver's own should have been included in his list but there ya go.))

Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 22 April 2009 00:33 (sixteen years ago)

I wonder how this was:
from Wayne Marshall's wayne and wax site
Friday, April 17, 2009:
2:00 - 3:45
>> iReggaetón! Perreo and Beyond
Venue: JBL Theater

Reggaetón and especially perreo, the genre’s doggystyle dance, has been accused of facilitating corruption. This discussion, keyed to a new book, links sympathetic and critical observers from the humanities and social sciences, visual artists and genre performers, and a perspective from Jamaica.

Moderated by: Alexandra Vazquez
Featuring: Wayne Marshall, Raquel Rivera, Alexandra Vazquez

I’m sorry to report that our “perspective from Jamaica” will be absent from the conversation. We were excited to have Sonjah Stanley Niaah join us, but at the last minute she was unable to make the trip. That’s unfortunate, especially since I’m eager to talk about perreo (aka, winding, grinding, freaking, etc.) in cross-cultural perspective, not to mention reaffirming the links between reggaeton and reggae. We’ll still do all that, no doubt, especially anticipating all the knowledgeable colleagues who might be in the audience. But it would have been great to have Sonjah inna the house.

For my part, I’ll be discussing the circulation of “perreo” outside of Puerto Rico — both traveling with and, interestingly, also without reggaeton. See, e.g., Colombia, where you get perreo con champeta

curmudgeon, Wednesday, 22 April 2009 05:07 (sixteen years ago)

dumb question, are any of the panels available to download as mp3?

lil waynes babymama (musically), Wednesday, 22 April 2009 05:08 (sixteen years ago)

I don't recall anyone filming the panels, to be honest.

Matos W.K., Wednesday, 22 April 2009 07:46 (sixteen years ago)

a pox on all y'all Seattlites!

\m/ metal oaf \m/ (Ioannis), Wednesday, 22 April 2009 07:48 (sixteen years ago)

There was a specific mention at a couple of panels of them being recorded because of panelists needing to stay on mike, while the keynotes were definitely filmed. Beyond that...

Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 22 April 2009 12:32 (sixteen years ago)

No one's pals or acquaintances enough with Carl Wilson or other board members to ask about what happened to that plan to put stuff up on youtube and ITunes University? Or is that not polite or something?

curmudgeon, Wednesday, 22 April 2009 13:13 (sixteen years ago)

Carl addresses it on his zoilus blog:

I wish we’d been able to fulfill our plan to videotape the whole conference so the presentations could be posted online, which would bring the material out of EMP and into public, to allow more of that kind of discussion. Simply put, we didn’t start early enough finding videographers - we did at least get as far as having people sign release forms! But let’s hope next year this level of documentation comes together - I think the Pop Conf needs to get its social-media on. He posts about the conference http://www.zoilus.com/documents/in-depth/2009/001529.php

curmudgeon, Thursday, 23 April 2009 12:51 (sixteen years ago)

More from Carl
I noted a general tendency to soft-balling in the question periods this year, partly because some of the most reliable challenging questioners weren’t able to make it (Joshua Clover, you were much missed!). Though apparently if I hadn’t been holed up typing during Thomas’s panel I might think differently. (I would give a lot to have seen the brilliant Pere Ubu frontman’s face when Bob Christgau answered his Britney-bashing by asserting casually that in the past decade, Britney’s made better music than Thomas has.

curmudgeon, Thursday, 23 April 2009 12:57 (sixteen years ago)

Bless Carl's heart for that link and credit! Now I just need to finish updating all my notes.

I see he also mentioned those evaluation forms. All of which I happily and completely ignored.

Ned Raggett, Thursday, 23 April 2009 13:39 (sixteen years ago)

Why doesn't C-Span cover this instead of the umpteenth Heritage Foundation snorefest?

Pete Scholtes, Thursday, 23 April 2009 18:39 (sixteen years ago)

Because of the involvement of damn furriners like Carl and J.D.

Ned Raggett, Thursday, 23 April 2009 18:40 (sixteen years ago)

http://www.ohindustry.com/2009/04/dispatch-from-seattle-2009-emp-pop.html

curmudgeon, Monday, 27 April 2009 14:13 (sixteen years ago)

http://www.najp.org/articles/2009/04/emp-lookback.html
Christgau

curmudgeon, Monday, 27 April 2009 14:23 (sixteen years ago)

http://www.zoilus.com/documents/general/2009/001672.php

curmudgeon, Thursday, 30 April 2009 04:59 (sixteen years ago)


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