Eminem: Classic or Dud?

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deserves it's own thread, don't you think? as does the freaky trigger ballots not bullets thread that was hijacked by slim shady discussion.

― fritz, Monday, 13 May 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

I've liked every single... a lot to be honest, but never owned a full length.

― fritz, Monday, 13 May 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

hate hates hate but i like it

anyone who thinks "stan" isn't a smart (um) song about who he is and what he does, erm, whatever blah blah

"stan" is a smart (um) song about who he is and what he does

― mark s, Monday, 13 May 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

did you ever read the anti-eminem/anti-em-lovin'-press diatribe in Nick Hornby's da capo collex, mark? it's a crap piece, really really crap piece, but does at least try to address how a lot of writers seem kind of stumped by his talent - unable to deal with the uglier stuff in an analytical way because they don't feel equipped to explain his popularity - i kind of remember a similar gears-freezing- in-place situation on the part of critics with public enemy and guns n roses.

― fritz, Monday, 13 May 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

yus i did fritz: one of many many reasons i haf been too depressed to finish my review of that stupid book (as jess has noted, my review = "that stupid book")

― mark s, Monday, 13 May 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

I thought the first single ('My Name Is'?) was one of those joke records they used to periodically do on Radio 1, and I can't say that anything he's done since then has particularly excited me. So Dud.

― Nick Southall, Monday, 13 May 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

As the group-of-groups chart on the right of the focus group ballot suggests, Eminem is a big FT favourite. I think he's blazingly fantastic enough of the time to make him a classic: there is also little more frustrating than Eminem tracks where you suspect he's coasting.

― Tom, Monday, 13 May 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

so Tom, what do you make of the new single then - class or coast?

oh and with regard to that eminem piece in That Stupid Book - the question is interesting but the approach to answering was incredibly wrong-headed (is that the modus operandi of the da capo series or what?).

― fritz, Monday, 13 May 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

Dud, simply for the whiney, whiney voice. Plus for the fact that I suspect most of his 'insights' have been covered by other, none-white rappers and musicians beforehand. Obviously they didn't reach as wide an audience, but I think that adds to his dudness, in all honesty.

― Matt DC, Monday, 13 May 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

Neither/nor. Very good at times, but mainly just further proof that Dr Dre is a genius.

― John Darnielle, Monday, 13 May 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

the magoo to dre's timbaland

― J Blount, Monday, 13 May 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

I think the guy's brilliant--absolutely one of the best, canniest and funniest MCs in the world. The "canniest" part is because he can get a rise out of just about anyone, inc. me. And his guest verses on anyone else's tracks are where I wake up, generally.

― Douglas, Monday, 13 May 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

Yes! I'd like to see what dissenters have to say about his guest tracks. They're consistently incredible.

I have mixed feelings about him. He bores me, but he excites me. He comes fresh every time, but he says the same thing. (Despite probably having a lot to say, he seems to say the same thing over&over&over.)

As for his being proof of Dre's genius: I don't think Dre's beats always compliment his style so well. He should, like, join Anticon or something--somewhere where the beats are as insane as his flow.

― Keiko, Monday, 13 May 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

I'd like to see what dissenters have to say about his guest tracks.

You mean like the track on The Blueprint where Jay-Z nails his whiny ass to the floor? Okay then. ;-)

― Ned Raggett, Monday, 13 May 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

Like I said on the other thread, I don't really care what he has to say but I don't see how anyone who listens to hiphop cannot be impressed on with his flow on some level. (enough negatives in that sentence?)

― Jordan, Monday, 13 May 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

Whatever, Ned.

Did Em produce "Without Me"? I'm thinking he did - the Casio poot- poot from "Purple Pills" is my evidence.

― Daver, Monday, 13 May 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

Something I was thinking about recently: "Will Smith doesn't have to curse to sell records/well I do..." So he's admitting that without all the controversy and f-words, nobody will give half a rat's ass?

That nasal voice is kind of a pain in the ass, too. Sounds like Lenny Bruce tryin' to rhyme sometimes.

― Nate Patrin, Monday, 13 May 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

yeah man patrin you totally nailed him i bet he didnt even think of it that way!!

― ethan, Monday, 13 May 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

Uh... yeah. OK.

― Nate Patrin, Monday, 13 May 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

a lot closer to Howard Stern than Lenny Bruce; funny yes, but never more than that. And his response to Lynne Cheney - "F*@k you with the freeness of speech this Divided States of Embarrassment will allow you to have! F*@k you!" - he's no Canibus

― J Blount, Monday, 13 May 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

Well, right now what I've heard of the new album...at points promising but ultimately massively flawed (and as usual he's the most unnecessary thing in it). Five or six very good songs, but it absolutely GRINDS to a halt in the middle third and just doesn't recover. "Drips" and "Hailie's Song" are two of the most boring tunes yet recorded by anyone ever, and after "Soldier" the only really noteworthy song is "Till I Collapse"...and that's at the END, practically. Somebody get this guy an editor, thank god it wasn't a double-disc release. Got himself some great arrangements at points, though -- "White America," end rant aside, is the best thing he's ever done. The use of "Dream On" for "Sing For the Moment" is entertaining and all, but that just makes me want to hear the original -- must be his attempt to make his own bootleg, if you like. ;-) Edit down to "Without Me," "White America," "Square Dance," "Soldier," maybe "Sing for the Moment," "Till I Collapse," knock out most of the vocals, you've got yourself a solid EP. And that's it.

― Ned Raggett, Monday, 13 May 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

And before anyone asks, it's all over Audiogalaxy, so hop to if you haven't and make up yer own mind, baby. :-)

― Ned Raggett, Monday, 13 May 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

I like the production on "When the Music Stops" and "Business" but one is diluted by guest rappers and the other definately has that frustrating coasting feel that Tom mentioned. "Say What you Say" is fine, but it doesn't belong on the album. Otherwise, Ned's got the right idea it seems.

I'm a bit disappointed considering some of the things I've heard about the album. I wanted more "Kim"s and "Stan"s and instead we get a sung ballad and a cameo from his daughter.

― Honda, Tuesday, 14 May 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

I like the production on "When the Music Stops"

One of the ones -- I think there are two others -- that I didn't get to hear. So maybe there's more there to love than I noted.

and "Business"

Pleasant enough, only really got my attention in parts.

Otherwise, Ned's got the right idea it seems.

Eh, a very rough take, no more. I do know what definitely works and was doesn't, and by god are "Drips" and "Hailie's Song" both coasting to the extreme. Dull, dull, dull as ditchwater.

I did joke how it's his heavy metal album, and the thing is that I think the best performances ("White America" and "Till I Collapse" in particular) rock in their own ways. I could just as easily be honing in on things that push my particular buttons musically, though, which wouldn't surprise me.

― Ned Raggett, Tuesday, 14 May 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

The hip-hop Marilyn Manson.

"Look Marsha, he's dang done summat outrageous. I'm gonna have to get his CD now. No, I don't actually know what the music sounds like, why do you ask?"

Rememember when Marilyn Manson and Eminem hated each other? They don't.

Oh, and Eminem's fanbase really do think that the Elton John/Grammy shennanigans was a good idea. And even if he is classic, someone try and defend D12.

― Judd Nelson, Tuesday, 14 May 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

The hip-hop Pim Fortuyn! Except not gay. Obviously. And still alive.

― Tom, Tuesday, 14 May 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

Eminem thinks that Muslims should all leave his pretty little caucasoid country and go back to where they came from?!?!?! When this vital piece of info come out?

― Alex in SF, Tuesday, 14 May 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

Yeah the choice of scapegoats differed somewhat.

― Tom, Tuesday, 14 May 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

Taking Sides: Moby vs. Muslims who were encouraged to emigrate to a this little white country cause it was hard to find any well to do white folks who wanted to soil their hands doing menial labor so it was figured that getting some brown people to do that work and all would be fine until it was realized that these brown people weren't stupid and their kids weren't stupid either and they liked having nice jobs and nice houses too and woops now that little white country isn't quite so white and it's still difficult finding people who want to do that menial labor stuff and now you've got a problem with those brown people who are oh so DIFFERENT from YOU.

― Alex in SF, Tuesday, 14 May 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

Wish I'd noticed this before I'd posted in the Freaky Trigger threads. Anyway, very classic indeed. I don't suppose there's an album I've played more than Marshall Mathers since I bought it.

― Martin Skidmore, Tuesday, 14 May 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

Rememember when Marilyn Manson and Eminem hated each other? They don't.

Never thought they did -- in fact, I thought the whole point was they got along!

Turns out the "Drips" and "Hailie's Song" out there are just loops from bits of the songs in particular, which explains much regarding why I was punching the skip button in frustration. So maybe they're not as boring as all that. ;-)

― Ned Raggett, Tuesday, 14 May 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

Circa the release of "My Name Is", that was when Uncle Brian fell of an amp and broke his foot, or whatever. Anyways, I remember reading an interview in Kerrang (I was bored....) where some muppet asked him what he'd been doing with his free time. His response "Watching rubbish on MTV, Eminem and N'Sync and so forth".

― Judd Nelson, Tuesday, 14 May 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

in the Classic/Dud argument, there should be a third category: "Annoying to the point of complete avoidal".

― http://gygax.pitas.com, Tuesday, 14 May 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

Bores the shit outta me but has mass appeal for excitable 14 year old girls. Each to his own but you can keep that DUD CUNT!

― Harry H, Wednesday, 15 May 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

Eminem is shit, just like all (c)rap and hip hop - fucking shit.

― bam bam, Wednesday, 15 May 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

"(c)rap"! How witty and original!

― Dan Perry, Wednesday, 15 May 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

But Mr. Perry, remember, they may have only just discovered that bon mot for themselves, the sweet little dickenses. Then they make the mistake of using it.

― Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 15 May 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

If he's lucky, he stole it from that Time-Life History of Rock special, where the amazing phonetic similarity between "rap" and "crap" was posited by none other than Greg Allman! Or Duane. Whichever one's not dead and boned Cher.

― Nate Patrin, Wednesday, 15 May 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

So phonetic similarity is why rap is crap, how does he explain the Allman Brothers Band then?

― Ally, Wednesday, 15 May 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

"Allman" is actually pronounced "shite".

― Dan Perry, Wednesday, 15 May 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

Eminem used the word "rubbish" ?

― Dare, Wednesday, 15 May 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

not only is rap crap, it`s abusive, homophobic, retarded, backward, sexist, racist, violent, childish, talentless, lowest common denominator appealing, brain dead and....oh that`s all I can be bothered with. Don`t listen to it anyway.

― Mr Rock, Wednesday, 15 May 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

Surely "Will2K" wasn't that bad?

― Judd Nelson, Wednesday, 15 May 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

Alex in SF I don`t know what ethnic background you come from, but you sound bitter and twisted and an altogether unpleasant character. Included in your sneering condemnation of Englishmen and women are me, my family and millions of decent, noble folk who had no say in any policy on mass immigration and who have never been asked whether we want forced multiculturalism or not.

― dave unsworth, Wednesday, 15 May 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

you sound bitter and twisted and an altogether unpleasant character

You might want to stop talking into the mirror there.

― Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 15 May 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

q: "do you want forced multiculturalism?"

a: "no we do not"

It would have been so easy to just ask Dave Unsworth before allowing other colors and cultures into the country, how was this crucial step overlooked?? Actually i'm foursquare in favor of "forced multiculturalism" which is why i moved to New York City. I think it should be compulsory for beady-eyed racists like Dave Unsworth to live here for a few months and hopefully be killed by a vicious gang of Crips.

― Tracer Hand, Wednesday, 15 May 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

Dave- ah, that'd be the Englishmen who post World War II were literally begging foreign nationals to come over to the UK, going as far as sending large boats over to the West Indies and press ganging people into coming over, before giving them low pay menial jobs, and then, in the 60s, turning around and saying "Oh, we don't want you any more". That England? Would it be that England? I don't remember the Africans or the Indians having any say in your good honest countryfolk turning up in their lands and raping and pillaging your way through it just to keep Queen Vic in opium, but you did it anyway. Funny that isn't it? Call it pennance. And you know, you know full well that if all of us non-"naturalised" Brits left your pissant little country, it would fall to pieces. So why don't you piss off back to your "Best of Bernard Manning" CDs and wanking off over pictures of Enoch Powell, OK?

Oh, and you were a shit defender for Everton as well. Tool.

― Judd Nelson, Wednesday, 15 May 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

My my my, the spitting venom. Didn`t take you very long to revert to type did it?!! One thing we did try to teach the world was calm reason in discussion. Impossible with some people I must admit. How you ignoramuses love to re-write history! No one would slit my throat, little boy, as you would see if you tried. Forget about Shakespeare, the Beatles and saving the world from Hitler, the English are horrid. Well, we`ve come through worse than this many times before and I dare say we will be dying for the freedom of ungrateful, spineless, lily livered, ignorant scum like you again someday. See, you nearly made me lose my good old English reserve! You are hateful and your words signify nought! Bye!

― dave unsworth, Wednesday, 15 May 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

Well, now at this point it's clear it's either Robin or Marcello at work. ;-)

― Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 15 May 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

Neither classic nor dud. You can tell that he puts some craft into his raps - the rhyme schemes and rhythmic patterns are pleasantly varied. However, his delivery tends to be shrill and monotonous, and in content, he tends to seize on a single joke and run it into the ground. I don't think his songs are half as clever as some people on this thread seem to think they are. He is a clown, with the virtues and weaknesses of a clown: when his jokes work, they can be laugh- outloud funny - but when they don't, they get tiresome very quickly. Nevermind underground heroes like Aesop Rock or Vast Aire - even relatively mainstream rappers like Jay-Z completely blow him out of the water in the subtlety department.

― o. nate, Wednesday, 15 May 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

Britain saved the world from Hitler? And there was me thinking Berlin was captured by the Russians... Funny how the memory plays tricks on you, isn't it? Oh, and don't fall back on saying "We gave the world Shakespeare". Because you're then saying "Hey, we gave the world Shakesperean comedies", which should be punishable by A-bomb.

― Judd Nelson, Wednesday, 15 May 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

"Will Smith don't gotta cuss in his raps to sell records/ Well I do, so fuck him and fuck you too":

fuck him for creating a disney-friendly version of a music that Em believes can be used to inspire, incite, educate, confuse, amuse?
fuck you for buying it?
fuck you for unthinkingly labelling a white rapper as a gimmick and thus forcing Em to continue a career seeming fueled by potty-mouthdom that frame him as the anti-Will and thus result in sales figures?
fuck him and fuck you because Em wants *this* record to sell?

subtlety aplenty

― Mitch Lastnamewithheld, Wednesday, 15 May 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

This is starting to remind me of some of the trends in lit crit that wanted to read *everything* as being ironic somehow. Mind you, I don't have any problem with reader-response theory or the like. ;-)

― Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 15 May 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

But if you're suggesting that Disney-friendly music can't inspire, et. al., aren't you entering into the kind of pop snobbery that is much maligned on ILM? 'Fuck Will Smith' for selling out hip-hop, or for keeping Eminem down?

― Dare, Wednesday, 15 May 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

Mitch, that is wildly silly. It may be a valid way of looking at the song, but it's still very silly.

― Dan Perry, Wednesday, 15 May 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

Dare, I'm not suggesting that: I'm suggesting Eminem might be suggesting that.

― Mitch Lastnamewithheld, Wednesday, 15 May 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

Hip hop's genius move was to start with the sell-out ("Guess what America? / We love you!") (so that anything 'realer' already had an audience?)

I think "fuck Will Smith" just means Em doesn't think WS is 'ard enough and nothing more. How controversial! It's the "and fuck you too" that's so beguiling.... cause "you"'re listening to an Eminem record!

― Tracer Hand, Wednesday, 15 May 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

The ONLY reason Will Smith got mentioned is because, when accepting a Grammy, he made a remark about how it wasn't necessary for a hip-hop artist to curse in order to sell records or win awards. Em took this as thinly-veiled dig (which it probably was) and responded to it on his next single. I highly doubt that preserving the integrity of the art form was very high on his list of priorities.

Personally, I want to see Eminem do a light-hearted, profanity-free party song, if only to confuse his critics even more.

― Dan Perry, Wednesday, 15 May 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

but Dan it wouldn't sell!

― Mitch Lastnamewithheld, Wednesday, 15 May 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

"it`s abusive, homophobic, retarded, backward, sexist, racist, violent, childish, talentless, lowest common denominator appealing, brain dead" - you know, just like rock music.

― J Blount, Wednesday, 15 May 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

"Will Smith don't gotta cuss in his raps to sell records/ Well I do, so fuck him and fuck you too"

This doesn't strike me as being particularly subtle. Yes, there is some cleverness in the "fuck you too" part, but it's really just another incarnation of Eminem's one running joke, which is that we love him even though he's so baaaaaad.

― o. nate, Wednesday, 15 May 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

I agree w/ Mitch here. I mean... why does Em have to cuss for his records to sell when Will Smith doesn't? Big question, eh?

― Sterling Clover, Wednesday, 15 May 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

why does Em have to cuss for his records to sell when Will Smith doesn't?

Marketing.

― Dan Perry, Wednesday, 15 May 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

"Dare, I'm not suggesting that: I'm suggesting Eminem might be suggesting that."

Are you suggesting that my use of the pronoun 'you' was suggesting that my comments referred to Mitch rather than suggesting the general populace?

― Dare, Wednesday, 15 May 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

Because Will Smith is one of the biggest movie stars on the planet. I mean jeez, poor lil' Em, it's so tough to be a white guy in music...

― Ben Williams, Wednesday, 15 May 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

Dan: who has the better marketing?

― Sterling Clover, Wednesday, 15 May 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

Judd I stumbled across this thread. Allow me to stick my oar in. I can see your frustration with the patriotic guy, but I worry if all we can do is call him names eg. racist etc. I worry that if we browbeat people who might have legitimate concerns sometimes about, say, immigration, then we might drive them further right. You can see that the ballot boxes of Europe are saying something to us - we must respond in a logical and fair minded way and not just give an emotional response to their views. The more adversarial we become, the more to the extremes we will push. To deny this guy the right even to have a culture is silly when we celebrate difference and pride in other cultures. We would be foolish to increase these feelings of `a silent, oppressed majority` as every sector of belief needs a safety valve. Don`t think me woolly and soft - just practical - and don`t shout at me - it`s only my opinion!

― alarmbell, Thursday, 16 May 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

Sterl: I think they're both being marketed extremely well. I'd say that Eminem is more popular at the moment, but both of them over the course of their careers have done very well pushing forward their chosen images.

― Dan Perry, Thursday, 16 May 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

I think he's saying "fuck Will Smith" because Will never lived up to the promise he showed on "Boom, shake the room" and "Summertime", prefering instead to take the latin road with "Miami" and the god-knows-what road with "Just the two of us".

― jacob, Thursday, 16 May 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

Anybody ever hear that track with Pete Rock, Heavy D and Big Daddy Kane where they spend the whole tune trying not to curse as some kind of anti-censorship statement? 'S funny. Em and Dre should cover it...

― jacob, Thursday, 16 May 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

Interesting synopsis of the whole Marshall Mathers LP controversy here. I still think Em's kind of irritating but at least I have a better understanding (a) how contradictory - intentionally or otherwise- em is and (b) how stupid the media controversy is - i.e. it's not like he's the first MC to call people "fag" and rhyme about violence against women (Ice Cube kicking pregnant "bitches" in the belly, for instance).

(And for the record, I think "Any Man" is a fucking hoot.)

― Nate Patrin, Thursday, 16 May 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

Aesop Rock is not better than Eminem.

― Perfecto, Sunday, 19 May 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

Interesting.

― o. nate, Monday, 20 May 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

Yes, Eminem is clearly the better foosball player. Aes just spins the little guys around at random.

― Nate Patrin, Monday, 20 May 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

five years pass...

who?

― banriquit, Monday, 31 March 2008 23:06 (seventeen years ago)

you had to be there.

― scott seward, Monday, 31 March 2008 23:08 (seventeen years ago)

if u like eminem. u might also like linkin park. there good too.

― michael, Monday, 31 March 2008 23:10 (seventeen years ago)

Hey guys, there's a hot new band called Crazy Town. The singer has rad tattoos.

― chap, Monday, 31 March 2008 23:13 (seventeen years ago)

still classic.

― tipsy mothra, Monday, 31 March 2008 23:23 (seventeen years ago)

wtf @ thread

― jabba hands, Tuesday, 1 April 2008 04:26 (seventeen years ago)

Aesop Rock is not better than Eminem.
-- Perfecto, Sunday, May 19, 2002 12:00 AM (5 years ago) Bookmark Link

Poll.

― Dom Passantino, Tuesday, 1 April 2008 09:14 (seventeen years ago)

three months pass...

The hip-hop Marilyn Manson.

"Look Marsha, he's dang done summat outrageous. I'm gonna have to get his CD now. No, I don't actually know what the music sounds like, why do you ask?"

Rememember when Marilyn Manson and Eminem hated each other? They don't.

Oh, and Eminem's fanbase really do think that the Elton John/Grammy shennanigans was a good idea. And even if he is classic, someone try and defend D12.

-- Judd Nelson, Monday, May 13, 2002 8:00 PM (6 years ago) Bookmark Link

― and what, Friday, 18 July 2008 01:15 (seventeen years ago)

d12 >>>> demigodz btw

― and what, Friday, 18 July 2008 01:15 (seventeen years ago)

eight months pass...

Question: Body Count and Cannibal Corpse have performed more offensive stuff than this for ten years without a blip from anyone, yet Feminem records this aural vomit and now he's cutting edge? Yeah.

― ilxor, Friday, 27 March 2009 02:48 (sixteen years ago)

is that question directed to 8 years ago?

― iatee, Friday, 27 March 2009 02:51 (sixteen years ago)

oh it's a joke

― iatee, Friday, 27 March 2009 02:53 (sixteen years ago)

Yep, was referring to Eminem circa the Marshall Mathers LP era. xpost

― ilxor, Friday, 27 March 2009 02:56 (sixteen years ago)

so glad we don't have to think about eminem anymore

― iatee, Friday, 27 March 2009 02:57 (sixteen years ago)

"Oh MAN does this group suck. They've ridden the SAME three songs and have made the same album out of them THREE times. And their rich, privileged white fans eat it up, yo. Spare me."

― Mordy, Friday, 27 March 2009 03:00 (sixteen years ago)

four years pass...

http://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/entertainment/music/music-news/34-arrests-two-claims-sexual-2200252

http://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/news/scottish-news/complaints-flood-during-eminem-concert-2204236

― pfunkboy (Algerian Goalkeeper), Friday, 23 August 2013 01:12 (twelve years ago)

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