― C. Leopard, Tuesday, 14 May 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)
― Keiko, Tuesday, 14 May 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)
― peter, Tuesday, 14 May 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)
― A Nairn, Tuesday, 14 May 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)
― dave q, Wednesday, 15 May 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)
― cuba libre (nathalie), Wednesday, 15 May 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)
― gareth, Wednesday, 15 May 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)
― blah blah, Wednesday, 15 May 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)
― Jeff W (genrephobe and proud), Wednesday, 15 May 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)
A lot of the way music works is by creating expectations and then satisfying the listener by fulfilling them, or by diverging in some way and surprising the listener (but there are limits in a given genre as to what is an apt sort of divergence).
Boundaries don't just create confinement: they create definition, and I think they can generate a certain sort of clarity.
As for the original question, as someone else has already said, different genres will be defined based on different types of features. In some cases it may be a rhythm, in other cases it may be a certain type of instrumentation combined with some other musical element. There is something called a guajira which sounds a lot like a cha cha cha to me. One of the defining elements, in addition to some musical ones which go over my head, is the subject of the lyrics (which I also can't do much with, since I don't understand Spanish).
There are always arguments about where genres begin and end. Is salsa really just mambo or son, or is it different enough that it deserves its own name? Is timba merely the new Cuban salsa, or is it something distinct from salsa? Is Elvis Costello rock? When I used to play reggae while I was living at home, my dad would say, "We used to call this Calypso," but I consider Calypso to be a separate, recognizably different, category. Etc. To a relative outsider, some genre divisions are going to be incomprehensible. I am unable to recognize the fine distinctions among certain types of electronic music.
― DeRayMi, Wednesday, 15 May 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)
― Dan Perry, Wednesday, 15 May 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)
― Lynskey, Wednesday, 15 May 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)
― Sterling Clover, Wednesday, 15 May 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)
If a genre is big and roomy enough, it may take a while to master its elements well enough to do something expressive or innovative with them. I admit there are probably a lot of other reasons that people will stay in one genre: it may pay off more commercially, they may not be skilled or imaginitive to try something else.
I still don't think expectations are inherently bad.
no genre = no paradigm = the paradigm of no paradigm = the most mystifying and confining of all!
― Lord Custos 2.0 beta, Wednesday, 15 May 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)