Listening to some old pop radio station today I got reminded about how often and in odd places the guitar sitar sound was brought out. I heard it both today in that kind of twisted lead guitar on The Chi-Lites "Have You Seen Her" and setting up a melody in "Cats in the Cradle". It was used in other places, perhaps best in that great solo on Steely Dan's "Do It Again".
The guitar tone and the lead on "Have You Seen Her" is really kind of nasty, especially considering how smoothe the chorus is on that song. I suppose that is kind of the genius of the recording. I think it sounds pretty cool.
So ILM come out in praise or scorn for other uses of the 'guitar sitar', an odd sound curio from the late 60s and 70s. Especially point out places where this sound might be used in more modern recordings, not much of which come to mind other than on one of those later kind of meh Metallica songs.
― earlnash, Sunday, 21 September 2008 04:02 (seventeen years ago)
fascination street by the cure sounds good to me.
― Display Name, Sunday, 21 September 2008 04:23 (seventeen years ago)
One of Chips Moman's trademarks -- B.J. Thomas' "Hooked on a Feeling," Elvis' "Stranger in My Home Town."
― If Timi Yuro would be still alive, most other singers could shut up, Sunday, 21 September 2008 04:48 (seventeen years ago)
Or the American Studios band, I guess. "Stranger" was produced by Felton Jarvis.
Elvis' "Stranger in My Home Town." and Fascination Street are a couple of good ones that didn't come to mind.
I think "Wherever I may Roam" might be the the Metallica tune that starts with that guitar sitar sound.
"One of Chips Moman's trademarks" -- That would also be him that may have produced The Box Tops' "Cry Like a Baby", right? That is one that just came to mind and it sounds good on that track.
― earlnash, Sunday, 21 September 2008 05:10 (seventeen years ago)
Praise for its use in Joan Baez's "Love is Just a Four Letter Word" which not only was early but in a nominally "country" song.
― nickn, Sunday, 21 September 2008 06:04 (seventeen years ago)
thread reminds me of that old radio spot for the Electric Prunes and Vox wah-wah pedal... "make your guitar sound like a sitar!"
numerous early Bevis Frond songs also meet this criteria.
― sleeve, Sunday, 21 September 2008 06:07 (seventeen years ago)
parliament "moonshine heather" and various other rhenium/osmium/first thangs tracks, though sometimes you just notice it as a weird noise in the background.
joseph stoned age man has some, too.
― REIGN IN FUDGE (GOTT PUNCH II HAWKWINDZ), Sunday, 21 September 2008 08:06 (seventeen years ago)
Not to be a prude about this, but if we're going to have a whole thread dedicated to this, we should at least call the instrument by its correct name: the "electric" sitar, the most famous of which was the Coral Sitar, made in the 1960's.
― Naive Teen Idol, Sunday, 21 September 2008 20:25 (seventeen years ago)
wendy and lisa play electric sitar on "strange relationship," right??
― 69, Sunday, 21 September 2008 20:29 (seventeen years ago)
"I Know What I Like", Genesis
― snoball, Sunday, 21 September 2008 20:34 (seventeen years ago)
"Close to the Edge", obv.
― Sundar, Sunday, 21 September 2008 20:52 (seventeen years ago)
"Paint it Black" and "Mother's Little Helper" for sure
― Shushtari (res), Sunday, 21 September 2008 20:53 (seventeen years ago)
Isn't that a real sitar on the Stones' records, though?
― If Timi Yuro would be still alive, most other singers could shut up, Sunday, 21 September 2008 22:01 (seventeen years ago)
And yeah to the Box Tops; I knew there was a tune of theirs I was leaving out there. Did Moman or Dan Penn produce "Cry Like a Baby"? Penn did "The Letter."
― If Timi Yuro would be still alive, most other singers could shut up, Sunday, 21 September 2008 22:02 (seventeen years ago)
First thing I thought of was the Box Tops. It's all over the West Coast Pop Art Experimental Band's "Child's Guide to Good and Evil" album
― The sun sets on twelve tons of pickled onions. A dynasty is dying... (Tom D.), Monday, 22 September 2008 09:24 (seventeen years ago)
A few favourites:
Freda Payne, "Band of Gold"Poppy Family, "Where Evil Grows"Lemon Pipers, "My Green Tambourine"Spinal Tap, "Listen To The Flower People"
― Myonga Vön Bontee, Monday, 22 September 2008 18:17 (seventeen years ago)
I didn't think so, but maybe you're right about that now that I think about it. What's the song on Nuggets that rips of the riff from "Paint it Black"? I think that one's a guitar.
― Shushtari (res), Monday, 22 September 2008 18:30 (seventeen years ago)
Brian Jones played a real sitar, I thought.
― QuantumNoise, Monday, 22 September 2008 18:44 (seventeen years ago)
In keeping with the Elvis/Chips Moman angle, there's Joe South, who used it several times, including "Games That People Play."
― QuantumNoise, Monday, 22 September 2008 18:45 (seventeen years ago)
There's a few Delfonics songs that employ this, all of which I like better than "Have You Seen Her".
― Granny Dainger, Monday, 22 September 2008 18:48 (seventeen years ago)
Beatles - Norwegian WoodPoppy Family - free from the city.
― Moka, Monday, 22 September 2008 20:55 (seventeen years ago)
That's a real sitar on the Beatles thing too, right?
Hey! Let's not forget "Come and Get Your Love" by Redbone!
― If Timi Yuro would be still alive, most other singers could shut up, Monday, 22 September 2008 23:47 (seventeen years ago)
Totally. Isn't George Harrison the most famous white dude ever to play the thing?
― QuantumNoise, Tuesday, 23 September 2008 00:07 (seventeen years ago)
All nine volumes of "Electric Sitar Headswirlers" to thread
― Elvis Telecom, Tuesday, 23 September 2008 00:13 (seventeen years ago)
Shirley Eaton "Flowers In The Air"
― Elvis Telecom, Tuesday, 23 September 2008 00:14 (seventeen years ago)
"Not to be a prude about this, but if we're going to have a whole thread dedicated to this, we should at least call the instrument by its correct name: the "electric" sitar, the most famous of which was the Coral Sitar, made in the 1960's."
I would imagine a few of the more modern uses of this sound come from a pedal.
― earlnash, Tuesday, 23 September 2008 00:15 (seventeen years ago)
http://www.haveyouheard.net/wp-content/uploads/2008/03/anton_gun.jpg
"Motherfucker broke my sitar!"
― Elvis Telecom, Tuesday, 23 September 2008 00:15 (seventeen years ago)
I wish for the life of me I could remember the song to contribute it to the thread, but anyway. One time me and my friend were at work and this song was playing and the lead kicked in with an electric sitar. I couldn' figure it out at first, "This solo sounds kinda weird, like definitely not a guitar.""Sounds like a sitar.""Hmm, but I don't think you can really use the techniques this guy's using on a ... oh! I bet it's one of those electric sitar guitar things..."Suddenly my friends becomes incredibly condescending / smarmy and is all, "oh...heaven forbid...he not play a regular sitar.""Uh, that's not really what I...nevermind."
I went over my tone and phrasing in my head seriously for ten minutes trying to figure out why he snapped at me. SHRUG
― RabiesAngentleman, Tuesday, 23 September 2008 00:58 (seventeen years ago)
SALLY eaton, bro
she's a wiccan, now, apparently.http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sally_Eaton
― REIGN IN FUDGE (GOTT PUNCH II HAWKWINDZ), Tuesday, 23 September 2008 03:14 (seventeen years ago)
Yeah, I quickly looked at my iTunes library and mixed her up with Shirley (Shirley Eaton was in Goldfinger and has a Eurospy exploitation song of her own)
― Elvis Telecom, Tuesday, 23 September 2008 03:43 (seventeen years ago)
Shirley Eaton was in Goldfinger and has a Eurospy exploitation song of her own
WANT
― If Timi Yuro would be still alive, most other singers could shut up, Tuesday, 23 September 2008 07:56 (seventeen years ago)
She's also in this weird UK Mickey Spillane adaptation from, I think, 1963. Shows on Turner Classic occasionally.
― If Timi Yuro would be still alive, most other singers could shut up, Tuesday, 23 September 2008 07:58 (seventeen years ago)
xp: yeah, that sounds good too!
― REIGN IN FUDGE (GOTT PUNCH II HAWKWINDZ), Tuesday, 23 September 2008 07:58 (seventeen years ago)
Ha, I heard "Have You Seen Her" yesterday and "Green Tambourine" today and thought I was going to come here and add them, but this list is already sewn up pretty tight.
― Retrato Em Redd E Blecch (James Redd and the Blecchs), Tuesday, 30 September 2008 12:59 (seventeen years ago)
Not so much the sitar sound as sitar technique(s): the Kinks' "See My Friends" and "Fancy."
― Sara Sara Sara, Tuesday, 30 September 2008 13:26 (seventeen years ago)
The Coup "Repo Man"
― Granny Dainger, Tuesday, 30 September 2008 15:35 (seventeen years ago)
Stylistics, "You Are Everything"
― Retrato Em Redd E Blecch (James Redd and the Blecchs), Wednesday, 15 October 2008 14:07 (seventeen years ago)
So most of these apparently were played by Vinnie Bell or else- according to the man himself- producer Bobby Eli.
Actually I used to think the electric sitar sound was Vinnie Bell's "watery" guitar sound, but I guess that is something different.
― Retrato Em Redd E Blecch (James Redd and the Blecchs), Wednesday, 15 October 2008 14:46 (seventeen years ago)
I guess Bobby Eli is known more as a guitar player, one of the members of the Philly International house band.
― Retrato Em Redd E Blecch (James Redd and the Blecchs), Wednesday, 15 October 2008 14:59 (seventeen years ago)
The inventor of the instrument
― Retrato Em Redd E Blecch (James Redd and the Blecchs), Thursday, 16 October 2008 13:19 (seventeen years ago)
I'd like to shake that man warmly by the hand
― Ich Ber ein Binliner (Tom D.), Thursday, 16 October 2008 13:21 (seventeen years ago)
There's a video of him playing it on his homepage http://www.vinniebell.com/
― Retrato Em Redd E Blecch (James Redd and the Blecchs), Thursday, 16 October 2008 13:24 (seventeen years ago)
Was just reading Dennis Coffey's book where I learned that it was he who played the Coral sitar on "Band Of Gold."
― Retrato Em Redd E Blecch (James Redd and the Blecchs), Tuesday, 18 November 2008 02:35 (seventeen years ago)
Motorpsycho - "Hey Jane"
― ArchCarrier, Tuesday, 18 November 2008 11:49 (seventeen years ago)
echo & the bunnymen - killing moon
― 6335, Wednesday, 19 November 2008 06:19 (seventeen years ago)
Eddie Willis on "Signed, Sealed And Delivered"
― Ruudside Picnic (James Redd and the Blecchs), Sunday, 23 November 2008 14:28 (seventeen years ago)
So it was Reggie Young on "Cry Like A Baby" and "Hooked On A Feeling."http://www.bronsonsmusic.com/reggie_young_part_2.html
― Orpheus in Hull (James Redd and the Blecchs), Thursday, 11 July 2013 19:36 (twelve years ago)
The roots, however, are found in November 1964, when the first recording of "Heart Full of Soul" by the Yardbirds was engineered by Brian Auger with rather unusual sounds blended in. An authentic Indian sitar player was brought into the studio, including a tabla player along side. Unfortunately the sitar player could not get the 4/4 time signature right, and due to the fact that the Yardbirds were a road group, the original would not be able to be played to live audience. Jeff Beck stood in and used his fuzz machine with a tone blender which created a similar and extremely effective sound.
http://www.oocities.org/shiloh_noone_za/IndianSitar.html
― Jersey Al (Albert R. Broccoli), Thursday, 11 July 2013 19:56 (twelve years ago)
Jeff Beck stood in and used his fuzz machine with a tone blender which created a similar and extremely effective sound.
sentence perfectly formed to make guitar pedal nerds shake with rage
― Magna Sharta (jjjusten), Thursday, 11 July 2013 20:12 (twelve years ago)
http://thumbnail.image.rakuten.co.jp/@0_mall/pedalmania/cabinet/effectpedal1/d-e1/electro-harmonix1/ravish-sitar.jpg
― Elvis Telecom, Thursday, 11 July 2013 20:48 (twelve years ago)
Been curious to try that. I remember Danelectro had a cheap sitar pedal, the main component being a cardboard slide.
― Esperanto, why don't you come to your senses? (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Thursday, 11 July 2013 20:52 (twelve years ago)
There's plenty of videos of it on YouTube. YT is pretty much the default pedal showroom these days.
― Elvis Telecom, Thursday, 11 July 2013 20:54 (twelve years ago)
that danelectro truly truly sucked. im not a hater of all of their stuff but that one was awful. ive messed around with the ravish sitar a bunch, and its about as good as ive heard for sitar sims. sold one to a dude that does the george harrison in a pretty high line beatles tribute band thing and he seems to be digging it.
― Magna Sharta (jjjusten), Thursday, 11 July 2013 21:24 (twelve years ago)
This is the first thing I thought of, but maybe this is a real sitar?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WpYG0igKX60
― brio, Thursday, 11 July 2013 21:27 (twelve years ago)
http://teental.free.fr/fotos/Sitar/Vinnie%20Bell%20Sitar%20Ad.jpg
I like how Cornershop used it in some of their songs. Too lazy to find which ones tho.
― Moka, Thursday, 11 July 2013 22:30 (twelve years ago)
"Used to be a Cop," Drive-By Trucker. Does not really make the song better, go figure.
― Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 11 July 2013 22:55 (twelve years ago)
I seem to recall that Steve Howe uses one on occasion.
― Elvis Telecom, Thursday, 11 July 2013 23:33 (twelve years ago)
Most definitely a real sitar on the Williams/Watson track - that's David Lindley playing the sitar.
― Elvis Telecom, Thursday, 11 July 2013 23:35 (twelve years ago)
great tune
― brio, Thursday, 11 July 2013 23:51 (twelve years ago)