speedy j - classic or dud?

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Well? I know no information about this band. Nothing. Inform me, illuminate me, hate me, love me, just excite me.

― sonny tremaine, Wednesday, 15 May 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

one guy from the netherlands jochem paap, first album, maybe his best, Ginger on Warp records, one of the series of classic artifical inteligence style releases,(see bytes, b12, the first autechre records) his latest stuff a lot more noisey...

― jk, Wednesday, 15 May 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

his stuff can be fairly varied. de-orbit 12" (1991?) is really good, panormaic pre-boc style w/ breakbeats (shades of the mover gone tech- funk anyone?), something for your mind (same ep) is really harsh dutch staccato techno with the phrase repeated (although maybe dan bell covers the same territory better)

but theres a lot of mediocre slush around this time as well (all that artificial intelligence/'intelligent techno' b12 style rubbish), but then he went really different (around 97), much much harsher in an almost neubaten style? patterns is really quite brutal

quite hit and miss over the course of what hes done, theres been some good stuff in and about though

― gareth, Wednesday, 15 May 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

actually, thinking about that, i'm not sure dan bell really covers 'something for your mind' territory, the repeated vocal phrase is a red herring

anyone think that something for your mind is unselfconscious, in a way that the later harsh stuf is kind of selfconscious? ie, later stuff quite 'try hard'? (although i do like some of it) - ie, the titles 'a shocking hobby' give the game away a little?

― gareth, Wednesday, 15 May 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

panic by speedy j is possibly the best techno track of all time...other than that,not sure,i've seen him live and he was fairly good,and most of his other stuff that i've heard has been fairly good,i'd like to hear more...

― robin, Wednesday, 15 May 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

Second LP Public Energy No. 1 was just chock-full of sweeping, crunchy electronic goodness. He's put out another one since that was somewhat more-of-the-same but less impressive.

― Lee G, Wednesday, 15 May 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

"Pull Over" is kind of the end of the world. Horrible, horrible, horrible track. However, "Ginger" and "The Wicked Saw" are both phenomenal. There's very little middle ground with a Speedy J track.

― Dan Perry, Wednesday, 15 May 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

"Ginger" thirded and fourthed. I frickin love that song. It seems like that song (and some other SJ stuff I've heard) exists in this pre- techno/trance split territory, very atmospheric and swirly but also really technoid and rigid and minimal a the same time.

― Tracer Hand, Wednesday, 15 May 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

i once played R2D2, (3rd track on ginger) at an 'all-back-to-mine' session in some guy's flat in brighton after the zap. it was about 10.30 in the morning and everybody was mashed. when r2 came on, the whole place was stunned to silence with massive grins all round. nice. goes underneath rez in my top 2 tecno tracs. anybody got a vinyl copy to sell????

― dbini, Wednesday, 15 May 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

a shocking hobby is a bit boring. good job ui only paida quid for it. de-orbit is well good, although i only had it on a mixtape gareth made for me and the tape got crunched back in the day, so i csn't remember what its like really

― ambrose, Wednesday, 15 May 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

i was kinda disapointed with a shocking hobby. when your tape got crushed it probably sounded alot like the album.

― dyson, Wednesday, 15 May 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

I got a copy of "A shocking Hobby" and in certain moods I kinda like it. I played the last track (a melancholy ambient piano thang) on college radio and everyone was asking about it.

― phil, Thursday, 16 May 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

Public Energy Number One is excellent if you have the time to listen to it in one sitting all the way through. And really listen. Beautiful swirling atmospherics countered with crunching, distorted, filtered-to-fuck beats.

Volume too low it sounds a bit wishy-washy. Volume too loud and you may very well get the fear.

― Rick, Friday, 17 May 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

three years pass...

thomas andersson, or, someone after him, at the end, london, weekend before last, played...

pullover

i think something for your mind would have been better!

― terry lennox. (gareth), Tuesday, 31 January 2006 00:35 (twenty years ago)

I heard some story about Speedy J playing a show that a bunch of the Detroit guys attended in late 80s early 90s, apparently they were blown away ... anyone know more about this, what tracks they heard etc?

― Lukas (lukas), Tuesday, 31 January 2006 00:47 (twenty years ago)

Yeah Pullover is cute and Public Energy's Three 'O Three is a hacking, stomping acid classic of sorts. But nobody's mentioned another Public Energy track (most confusingly, PE#1 is the title of a Speedy J album but Jochem Paap - that is, Speedy J - used to call himself Public Energy) namely Slumber.

Slumber seems entirely coated in surreal sound effects and has a rolling series of kick drums for a beat, equally loud punishing hi hats and a rising acid squelch ...giving way to a blissed-out blanket of soothing psychedelic synth, with the beat barrage briefly fading out the whole thing goes quasi-ambient at one point, before returning briefly to heroin gabber mode for mixing purposes, clocking in at 8:30 total. In other less chosen words it's FUCKING MENTAL

― blunt (blunt), Tuesday, 31 January 2006 01:17 (twenty years ago)

whole of Ginger LP = Classic
whole G-Spot 2xCD (including live disc) = Classic
everything after G-Spot = Dud

if you want speedy j infused with detroit, listen to Aril Brihka instead.

― biz, Tuesday, 31 January 2006 04:54 (twenty years ago)

Fucking hell, I can't find my copy of "Slumber"! I bought it a couple of years ago at a vintage sale -- fucking mental is right.

― NoTimeBeforeTime (Barry Bruner), Tuesday, 31 January 2006 05:59 (twenty years ago)

"A Shocking Hobby" is amazing. The hatred upthread surprises me. Then again, it has more in common with "rhythmic noise" (Tarmvred, most of the Ant-Zen label) than most techno, so perhaps I shouldn't be surprised after all.

― NoTimeBeforeTime (Barry Bruner), Tuesday, 31 January 2006 06:01 (twenty years ago)

i'm quite feeling the most recent "collabs" 12"s with george issakidis... pretty mental stuff, slow and grinding and well fucked. techno chopped & screwed?

― philip sherburne (philip sherburne), Tuesday, 31 January 2006 14:44 (twenty years ago)

His remix of Adam Beyer's "Ignition Key" is jaw dropping.

The rest, pretty much dud in my opinion.

― Ronan (Ronan), Tuesday, 31 January 2006 15:04 (twenty years ago)

Gareth seconded on "De-Orbit" recommendation above -- also, there's an excellent early track called "Evolution" that's like a tighter, more concise version of Hawtin's FUSE tracks of the time

― someolddude, Tuesday, 31 January 2006 16:03 (twenty years ago)

ive only heard bits of other stuff over the years, but was definately into some of the tracks off of the Collabs3000 record. and its been ages since i played a dance record at home and actually got into it

― bb (bbrz), Tuesday, 31 January 2006 16:56 (twenty years ago)

three years pass...

I haven't heard this - I'm not even sure if I'll ever finish downloading it - but it's supposed to be hot shit. Mix he did with George Issakidis.

http://www.getthecurse.com/folder/podcast/%28gtc061%29-getthecurse-speedyjIssakidis-2009.05.04.mp3

― death from abroad (lukas), Wednesday, 6 May 2009 14:46 (sixteen years ago)

(Don't let me discourage you with my download whining - I have terrible internet)

― death from abroad (lukas), Wednesday, 6 May 2009 14:50 (sixteen years ago)

Nice thread revive -- all week I've been caning the Speedy J/George Issakidis "Collabs" EPs.

― NoTimeBeforeTime, Wednesday, 6 May 2009 19:09 (sixteen years ago)

I have very good internet and this is taking forever. fyi

― dan selzer, Wednesday, 6 May 2009 19:31 (sixteen years ago)

I'm giving up.

― dan selzer, Wednesday, 6 May 2009 19:59 (sixteen years ago)

Weird, from home that link just dies after 1-2% for me each time, but at work I was able to get it right away, no problem. So I put it on zshare (sorry if this isn't cool with the mods or the podcast website or whoever, feel free to edit this post if necessary):
http://www.zshare.net/audio/597026413adb530e/

Listening now but with tinny headphones in one ear only, so not really doing it justice here.

― a passing spacecadet, Thursday, 7 May 2009 12:37 (sixteen years ago)

find a good stereo/headphones, set aside 10 minutes or so, shut out all distractions, and listen to this

― Local Garda, Thursday, 7 May 2009 13:38 (sixteen years ago)

thank you, brave spacewanderer, from the tail end of a crappy Kenyan internet connection

also Ronan

― death from abroad (lukas), Thursday, 7 May 2009 16:28 (sixteen years ago)

ten months pass...

okay massive lol @ me because decades after the fact I actually get "Pull Over"

― we call him black Nev coz he's black & his names Neville (HI DERE), Thursday, 11 March 2010 22:18 (sixteen years ago)

Ginger and G-Spot are incredible. The loud and aggressive shit that came after is pretty awful. His dj sets are good until you realize he has 1 mix style and repeats it every single transition. It's pretty annoying once you realize what he's doing.

― brotherlovesdub, Thursday, 11 March 2010 22:45 (sixteen years ago)

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