biggest song quality gaps from verse to chorus

no fair mentioning good vibrations or video killed the radio star!!

dont just name songs either i want to know why this happens so often in pop songs so explain like with chords and shit!!

Well, Cm7 Dmaj7+11 Cm Cm7 Dmaj, F#maj D# F#maj D#m. Amaj Amaj7, Amaj7+9, Amaj7 Cm7 Amaj7, Cm. Cm7 Dmaj7+11, Dmaj7 Cm Dmaj7+11, Dmaj7, Cm7 Cmaj.

Verses need little melody so to pin your attention to the words, therefore less chords e.g every song by The Mission that has two minor chords in the verse. A verse does not need a great amount of musical melody to be effective if it is setting up a killer chorus. Choruses may have more melody, seem faster (playing doubletime or notch up the backing tracks by 1BPM e.g. Ride On Time). ABBAs Dancing Queen has a tremendous chorus chord progression that demanded that of the verse to be up to the job. Sadly most songs have a bearly adequate chorus and thus the verse does not have to be up to a great standard. It also depends on whether the verse or chorus was written first. I like powerful ballads by Whitney Houston and Celine Dion as the music of both the verses and choruses re usually of an equal high standard but readily admit the lyrics of the verse are usually poor.

"Oh Yeah" by Ash

{I need more practice at being Donald - The Mission indeed}

'Goldfinger' by ASH - bring on those Major 7ths

HoooRAY major sevenths! I am trying to play some on my GEETAR but get stuck when I have to use so many fingers. *grapples* Well there are many songs where the verse lets yer down CF so many GRATE karaoke songZoR not being attempted due to not knowing the verses AT ALL. I shall go to Disco Karaoke and Report Back with your MATHEMATICAL TRUTH Ethang (hahahahah I didn't realise how funny that would be HA HA HA)

Waterloo by Abba has an unbelievably good dramatic verse, and then Whomp! straight into hokey-kokey-sax-and-boogie dreafulness. Possibly my least favourite chorus of all time.

The Men in Blue by Prince Paul (Lynskey will know what I mean here)

Hard as hell rap then the chorus ruins it by being intentionally cheesy but not getting away with it.

Any Foreigner song ever! Well, I think a *pretty good* chorus can seem like a real gem after a lackluster/forgettable verse. This is probably not always (if ever) a conscious tactic used when writing songs, but Ethan, I've noticed this so often, too. It's like the verse just sort of drifts or stagnates, then the chorus comes and it's glorious.

Eveything Duane Eddy ever recorded.

Radio Birdman's "I-94". The verses are pretty cool but when the chorus consists of the line "ESKIMO PIE IS CALLIN' TO YOU", that sort of puts a damper on things.

"The Clock" by Go Betweens has a great chorus and rather dull verses.

WARNING - a very rockist post. Be forewarned.

The way I figure it, a lot of musicians might come up with a really great chorus, or some really great verses, but clearly since a hit song need *absolutely* only to contain one of the two, the musician often decides that each great bit 'deserves' it's own song. The phenomena could be symptomatic of a lesser talent or lower dedication, or perhaps just simple greed. I do think it's a skill/integrity recognition barometer that I use a lot (subconsciously for the most part) whenever I hear a song. In the end, I really do think that I would prefer listening to something created by someone who knew how to fill in the gaps in the best possible way (or when they didn't it was equally beneficial to the end result - deliberately flawed for optimal interest ) than I would a product only halfway there. Be it either by luck or by laziness. Or I should clarify rather, that I would find that the songwriting process and the musician themselves in such a case is infinitely more interesting and enjoyable to contemplate than the theoretical case where the perfect song came out almost by accident. Contemplating it then, as an entity unto itself is attractive and interesting in a whole other way, granted, but to me it's still less so.

"Holiday" by The Other Ones has to be the ultimate example of this for me. Great chorus and lead-in to the chorus, totally crap sub- Fred Schneider verse.

"Roseanna" by Toto; great melody in the verse, largely crap chorus (the "Meet you all the way..." part).