T.I. - Paper Trail

Totally bowled over by this album.

At least three potential number one singles on it.

Bought it on Saturday and have played "Swagga Like Us" alone approx. 980,000 times. Single of the year IMO and if it's not this year's Xmas number one Britain should be shot.

"Live Your Life" with Rihanna is New/Numan Pop awesome. "Swing Ya Rag" is like a thousand Bollywood soundtracks falling on top of one another. "Dead And Gone" with Justin T is just awesome awesome AWESOME.

Album Of The Freaking Year, in case you were wondering.

You, sir, have made a convincing argument. i will now stop what I am doing and seek this album.

Just ordered this and "The Recession". Will report back!

Yes this was obviously gonna be great. The cover is very fine looking too

SLU single of the year? for real?

For me, up there with "Put On," "Out Here Grindin'" and "Lollipop."

really marcello, jacking it all in to be a 3rd rate lex biter ill befits.

Seeing the album release tomorrow; need to do some more research.
Ready for Whatever is pretty good for a community service track.

i'm not that excited by what i've heard (most of it)

is this guy in jail or what?

this is poised to become the first cd i buy in a cd store all year. if i can still find a cd store.

xp: no, this is the obligatory pre-jail record.

Swagger Like Us is great!

really marcello, jacking it all in to be a 3rd rate lex biter ill befits.

― this is not america's next top best friend (r|t|c), Monday, September 29, 2008 7:18 AM

lol

i like swagger like us too! i just wish everyone's verses had been a bit better (except TI's, his is great)

I accidentally heard "Swagga Like Us" on the radio this morning and didn't hate it--and I like the beat, which seems a shift away from the hip-hop I hear on the radio and from passing cars.

surreal thread

and if it's not this year's Xmas number one Britain should be shot.

It's still fuckin' September

'Swagga Like This' is shit enough to be an Xmas #1

Swagger is brilliant when you're not actually paying attention to it.

Swagger is brilliant when you're not actually paying attention to it.

― Tape Store, Monday, September 29, 2008 4:28 PM (25 minutes ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

this is one of those fun faux-profound 'poptimist' sayings that is ambiguous enough to make ppl think you're saying something interesting without actually saying very much at all

i kind of agree though, they all sound pretty great on the beat but the actual lyrics are only okay

uhhhhhhhhhhh

i hate 'swagga like us' and the maiahiiii bollocks with rihanna. i love 'no matter what' and 'whatever you like' which makes me actually weak at the knees. t.i. is like the most smashable pop star around, buff as. my copy of paper trail has been lost in transit i think

wouldn't say that it's brilliant though

Your post is a brilliant zing when you're not actually paying attention to it.

i kind of agree though, they all sound pretty great on the beat but the actual lyrics are only okay

"only okay" is generous i feel

this is one of those fun faux-profound 'poptimist' sayings that is ambiguous enough to make ppl think you're saying something interesting without actually saying very much at all

― deej, Monday, 29 September 2008 22:55 (4 minutes ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

Needs to be own thread imo. File alongside that weird period on ILX history when anytime sometime was down on a rap track, the defender would go "But man, you gotta hear it in a car!", as if to highlight the fact that said poster had managed to get his life in enough order to buy a car, but not enough to stop posting on an internet message board.

wtf, you both are reading way too much into these posts.

It's more interesting than reading the threads they come from.

btw from the one time i heard paper trail it seemed almost worse to me than t.i. v. t.i.p. which had better singles and some pretty good album tracks

ok?

i think as a general rule, anytime a rap album has 6 singles before it's been released then it's probably not a good sign (lol brass knuckles)

deej, so upthread, i said--or was trying to say--that if you're zoned out and working on a paper, "Swagger Like Us" seems like a great song (until you pay attention to the verses and realize that it's actually a mess). How was this 'faux-profound'? Or different from any of your posts?

Or different from any of your posts?

― Tape Store, Monday, 29 September 2008 23:10 (12 seconds ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

^^^too tired to come up with some good zings here, someone step up. Should probably be in the form of "It didn't mention x", wherein x is something deej mentions a lot.

it was basically a pretty rote "deej nitpicks a post by someone younger than him and acts like the beacon of rationality and criticism" post

also it didn't mention a 12'' record that is confounding deej but no one else cares about

(?)

it was me nitpicking a boring post

haha maybe. i was just exercising old butthurtedness

This is turning into one of those really lame embarassing threads that make me never want to hear the record in question in case I end up posting on them.

all this t.i. singles r pretty good to very good, still excited for it tomorrow.

I do wish SLU had more T.I. and less Lil Kayne-Z

wayne's verse is horrible. also his verse on the new t-pain single is horrible, like he's nodding out or something

i can't take kanye anymore

I'm cautiously optimistic for this album, I don't see how it possibly CAN'T be better than T.I. vs. T.I.P. - that was embarrassingly bad. As much as I love Wayne this year, "Swagga" would be 1,000,000 times better with his verse excised.

"whatever you like" went from totally geek to totally chic in my book

haha maybe. i was just exercising old butthurtedness

― poetry unit (J0rdan S.), Monday, September 29, 2008 10:26 PM (Yesterday) Bookmark

excising?

exorcising butthurtedness?

i think as a general rule, anytime a rap album has 6 singles before it's been released then it's probably not a good sign (lol brass knuckles)

― poetry unit (J0rdan S.), Monday, September 29, 2008 6:08 PM (4 hours ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

this is true-ish generally, but w/ Paper Trail it didn't seem to be so much the product of Curtis-level desperation as just throwing out a bunch of actual popular and mostly good songs in close proximity to the release date ("Swagga Like Us" supposedly being leaked way earlier than T.I. wanted it to). i'm actually kinda mad because "Swing Ya Rag" is my favorite of the singles and it seems to be getting overshadowed by the others.

wayne's verse is actually the best on slu imo

yeah "duhhh swagger rhymes with dagger duhhh" is pretty deep

This is like.. nowhere near Trap Muzik or Urban Legend or even King, lol@ this being the album of the year... Jeezy's album is way better than this.

― After The Hurricane (The Brainwasher), Wednesday, October 1, 2008 9:35 PM (44 minutes ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

^^all this

that's probably a widely held opinion...

"even" King?

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yeah, i thought that was little weird, just cause Urban Legend was not a consistent album at all. if anything that's what Paper Trail is closest to, some really great songs and some really lame ones too.

lol xpost

nah paper trail i don't think is anywhere close to urban legend. it's better than the last record, and "no matter what" is total hall-of-fame stuff, but the whole thing's really kind of a bummer. i don't blame him for that under the circumstances, but it's not all that much fun and he doesn't have enough interesting to say to make not being fun seem important. there's a bunch of good songs, he's still great and all. but "let my beat pound" should be on here, and "king on set" too. the album needs a more of that -- less self-pity, more t.i. saying how great he is. "swagga like us," i guess it was nice of the other guys not to upstage the main attraction. but they could've tried a little harder.

i like "like i do" better than at least 5 things on the album too. i know it's boring to complain about leaked tracks not being on the final disc, but still.

I listened to The Recession again last night and it beats this on almost every level.

I wasn't that impressed with The Recession, a few songs aside.

J0rdan's last post is the highpoint of this thread so far

ILM...I am going to close your restaurant.

I'm kind of perplexed as to why you fell for this in such a big way actually, it's like you say one track is "like a thousand Bollywood soundtracks falling on top of one another" when actually it sounds like any one of dozens of vaguely dancehall or Bollywood-influenced tracks from the last few years.

it's like you say one track is "like a thousand Bollywood soundtracks falling on top of one another" when actually it sounds like any one of dozens of vaguely dancehall or Bollywood-influenced Swizz Beatz produced tracks from the last few years.

Me >>>>>>>>>>>>>> "actually"

recession is great rev, give it some time

I thought Rev was super excited about Recession for some reason?

recession is dope

best jeezy since trap or die

I've just listened to this once right through, and it was at the gym, but the first half sounded great, then it kind of fell off (until the Timberlake track). I would say everything up to PornStar, especially I'm Illy, was pretty damned good. Even Porn Star was quite good for what it is, though the choruse pissed me off. When the guy shouts Porn Star its like he's just realised he's run out of time on the track.

By the way, it may be on loads of tracks, but the wee descending vocal thing that goes on at the end of most bars on Porn Star - what do I know that from? I've heard it on something else but I'm having a complete mental block.

recession is way better than this!!

this is ok tho

especially I'm Illy, was pretty damned good

that might be my fave so far

but yeah this album is no King (almost a given?)

lol @ the intro "they've been waiting for this shit since What You Know" --- did he forget he did a whole other album since then?

really haven't liked anything by Jeezy up to now but maybe I'll give Recession a try

Swagga Like Us is pretty cool but the trebly hiss at the high end on wayne's autotune hurts my ears

that's a seperate track of Wayne laughing at his own jokes that runs through his entire verse.

more like his entire career

Totally bowled over by this album.

um. "no more talk" from this dude

this isn't really THAT much better than ti vs tip

everything up to the usher track is PRETTY good but then there's not much else just "What's Up" and the JT track (and slu but that's a whole different bag of worms)

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dont ask me why i googled bag of worms, i thought I had misused some jumble of old expressions that i would never actually use except when in writing...but that description seems oddly fitting next to SLU

like, shit is it barrel of worms or bag of monkeys??

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i nominate surfboard dudes get wiped out, totally

I thought Rev was super excited about Recession for some reason?

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― vast variety of steens where we get our HOOS (BIG HOOS aka the steendriver), Thursday, October 2, 2008 10:07 AM Bookmark

haha I was before I heard it. As is, I'm still super-excited about "Put On", "Circulate", "My President Is Black" and the title track, but most of it is a wash. Still love dude's first two albums tho.

listen again

yahhh I need to, but haven't really felt like it

not-very-deep-thought: luda's verse on "top of the world" is better than any of the guest verses on "swagga like us." i like how he says "culinary arts SKOOL".

In another exciting example of the major labels having no clue...

B3st Buy was advertising an exclusive T.I. Greatest Hits cd on sale the week Paper Trail came out. I was thinking I might pick it up since I don't have anything before King and it might be a good way to catch up, but I decided not to when I saw it was only five songs. But what killed was the price. $7.99. For FIVE songs. It seems like some of these labels are trying to guarantee that iTunes kills the physical album completely.

get urban legend

slu ftw

slut fw

#1 album, #1 and 2 singles. maybe that'll cheer him up.

yeah, they might not make him go to prison if he goes platinum quickly enough

your honor, the people have spoken.

I've tried and I still can't like "Live Your Life." It's like neither TI nor Rihanna got the internet joke and the producer wasn't around to tell them about it. The Disney message coming from a rapper who stockpiles ARs is kinda weird, too. I'm not judging him, but the oddity of it all doesn't help a song I didn't like already.

'let my beat pound' >>>>>> every track which made it on paper trail

lol @ the intro "they've been waiting for this shit since What You Know" --- did he forget he did a whole other album since then?

― dmr, Thursday, October 2, 2008 3:29 PM (1 week ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

he's talking to Toomp, who hasn't been on a T.I. album since King

I prefer to think he's purposely forgetting about T.I.P..

Yeah, I wish 'Some Dude' hadn't pointed that out, because it was far funnier to think that he'd just got really confused and totally written off his last album.

Also, on reflection, this album isn't that great. The first half, which I previously loved, I've now whittled down to about 3 songs (I'm Illy is still awesome), and the second half is poor except the JT one. I think the only mixtape I listened to was called Bankhead Amabassador - it had some great tunes (the hotel california one, Do U Potna, and Baby Youre The Best). What mixtape should I be looking for that has the tunes everybody loves more than these album tracks?