Name some of the best uses of sampling in the past decade.

I was thinking about this today. The two best I could come up with were "SOS" by Rihanna and "Lose Control" by Missy. I wanted to know what you guys thought.

i don't think it's a sample exactly, but i loved t.i.'s use of gypsy woman

Alicia Keys' "You Don't Know My Name"... that Main Ingredient sample is used brilliantly.

xp YES!!! I totally forgot about that one! That's my absolute favorite T.I. song. Well, it's the only one I like really, but I really really love it.

Good use of sampling would be to do it in a way where the origin cannot be traced. Which means "SOS" is not a good example.

Interesting to see if this thread or the "fussy eaters" one on ILX makes it to clusterfuck levels first.

Depends how quickly somebody drops a "lol vegans" bomb in the other one.

Name some of the best uses of dumpling in the last decade.

yang's fried dumplings in shanghai: best shit ever

Girls on Top - I Wanna Dance With Numbers.

The best sampling isn't always where you can't tell where it comes from - it's about recontexualisation which is a totally valid form of strategy in art today. I mean Geir, do you think less of Rosencrantz and Guildenstern Are Dead because it doesn't bother to invent two new characters and instead borrows them from Shakespear?

Conway - "Lisa's Got Hives" (mashup of Lisa "Left Eye" Lopes' "The Block Party" and The Hives - "Hate To Say I Told You So")

Herbert 'Bodily Functions'

x-post both amazing tracks but mashups and sampling are diff things no?

I dunno. Where do you draw the line? Is Puff Daddy's I'll Be Missing You a mash up or sampling?

I suppose if I was being stricter I'd say, Matmos - The West

Pepe Bradock - Deep Burnt

The best sampling isn't always where you can't tell where it comes from - it's about recontexualisation which is a totally valid form of strategy in art today. I mean Geir, do you think less of Rosencrantz and Guildenstern Are Dead because it doesn't bother to invent two new characters and instead borrows them from Shakespear?

I refuse to accept recontexualisation.

I mean, what I would consider creating sampling is when you take a sound, take it through various sound changing processes and create an entirely different new sound where it is impossible to trace the origin. Like the snare drum on Yello's "Drive/Driven", which was apparently originally a result of snowballs being thrown towards a wall, which is of course impossible to hear.

Sampling loops of a hook from an old hit is something I have always despised, if you can't compose good hooks yourself, then stay out music!

Paper Planes--MIA

what is the sample for that? it's been bugging me for weeks.

is it straight to hell?

yup

this

thread

The Meters sample in Amerie's "1 Thing" lock thread

Billy Squier in Dizzee Rascal's "Fix Up Look Sharp"

http://musicglob.com/wp-content/GirlTalk.jpg
lock thread amirite

"Someone to Call My Lover"

"So Weit Wie Noch Nie"

ts: grunge masterpieces vs. glossy club shakers

I think there was a similar thread a while ago where I mentioned "Ridin Spinners."

oh yeah - most inventive use of a sample?

Can someone cite for Geir a list of prog and 60s/70s melodic pop/rock songs that feature blatant recontextualizing quotations from classical or earlier pop musics? I'm not enough of a wonk to do it, but there have to be just dozens.

I refuse to accept recontexualisation.

― Geir Hongro, Monday, October 6, 2008 3:33 PM (2 hours ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

I meant sampling riffs or loops for bits from other songs, ones that you can recognize and have successfully recontextualized the piece into a new form

http://www.berlinista.com/storage/images/2007/soulwax_flyer.jpg
^^^ask your parents

as much fun as it is to talk about girl talk and rihanna lets give some respect to the pioneers of sampling

http://remixtheory.net/remixImages/GreyAlbum.jpg

sampling is dead guys

and you're glad the bastard finally croaked

unless richard x does it with his obscure gary numan/human league records, then its genius.

xpost

Also I meant strictly sampling and not mash-ups, although I'd think "Since I Left You" would count more as sampling

as much fun as it is to talk about girl talk and rihanna lets give some respect to the pioneers of sampling

― and what, Monday, 6 October 2008 21:29 (23 minutes ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

You posted the wrong image

http://www.jay-zeezer.com/images/jayzeezercover2-largerweb.jpg

The Meters sample in Amerie's "1 Thing" lock thread

Whiney OTM

cassetteboy - the parker tapes

I refuse to accept recontexualisation.

Well it happens whether you like it or not.

Let's face it, if you don't know it's happening as the sound source is warped out of all recognition then you aren't going to know (unless you have insider muso knowledge) and this would be a short thread.

But a more interesting one.

...lock thread

unless richard x does it with his obscure gary numan/human league records, then its genius.

I like Richard X when he uses less obvious sources, or completely original material. The one based on Shakatak was my least favourite track on the Annie CD.

Can someone cite for Geir a list of prog and 60s/70s melodic pop/rock songs that feature blatant recontextualizing quotations from classical or earlier pop musics?

It is different when you don't steal and try to take the honour for it. Those were either cover versions or so melodically changed they were not the same thing anymore.

retard

How do you know when someone is trying to take the honour for it?

Well, at least people have started crediting the original people behind. But sampling still remains a problem because, along with too many cover versions, it keeps new songs away from people's attention. The world needs more songs. New songs, that people can sing along to, and that will become standards and be sung by generations and generations to come. The past 20 years have brought fewer new singalong friendly songs than the 60s, 70s and 80s did and that is a problem.

photography steals souls

http://thetimehascome.files.wordpress.com/2007/09/head_in_hands.jpg

geir you should check out the dropkick murphys

Assuming you're right what falls apart in a world with less songs?

Music is about songs. Songs are our cultural heritage. The world needs new "Yesterday"s and "Hey Jude"s.

Cultural heritage is a lot richer that a few Beatles songs Geir.

Shit, really shouldn't feed the troll.

This thread:

http://vicissitude.net/Images/MrT-SingleTear.gif

One Hey Jude was way way more than enough.

the jose ferrante version is best

Cultural heritage is a lot richer that a few Beatles songs Geir.

Well, obviously there are a lot of Tin Pan Alley songs in there too, for instance. And also some recent ones. But there are two criteria they need for getting part of the "song canon": 1. They need to be easy to singalong to and 2. A large number of people need to know them.

I refuse to accept recontextualisation.
I refuse I refuse I refuse I refuse I refuse I refuse I refuse I refuse
accept con re re re re

― Geir Hongro, Mon, 6OCT //; 2008 111:33 MA (77 hours I go) Bookned

at least geir recycles his refuse

Geir, do we need new musical notes and instruments?

Akufen?

1. They need to be easy to singalong to and 2. A large number of people need to know them.

― Geir Hongro, Monday, October 6, 2008 5:47 PM (11 minutes ago)

man you really don't leave the house do you

http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y199/RandomAct/freshprincerix1.gif

is that a pailhead reference nabisco?

the best sampling of this decade is the new grunge. (and not in terms of 90s rock music, but real grunge/dirt like composting vs. recycling)

cf. edits.

One Hey Jude was way way more than enough.

Au contraire

(I don't think that's what Geir had in mind though)

The past 20 years have brought fewer new singalong friendly songs than the 60s, 70s and 80s did and that is a problem.

― Geir Hongro

[Citation needed]

Can we please get Geir up to 50?

Still love the Sly Stone sample on The Roots' "Game Theory": "This is a game / I'm your specimen"

oh no

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Dunno what's so great about the beatles, all they did rip off little Richard