What songs would you play to someone who says is not interested in Electronic music but who you'd like to persuade otherwise?

I find it surprising that even nowadays many people still consider 'electronica' as music with no discernable melodies or feeling and moreso as music exclusively created for nightclubs (I'm looking at you Hongro). So... what would you play to convince these people otherwise? (I have stopped looking at you hongro, I know you're beyond repair)

I'd try something melodic, with some texture and organic enough to make the transition towards sub-genres smoother. Here's some off top of my head:

Oren Ambarchi - Remedios the beauty
To Rococo Rot - From dream to daylight
Biosphere - En trance
Colleen - The Cello Song, a little mechanical waltz
September Collective - Das Meer
Kangding Ray - status + light
Amon Tobin - Deo

Anything with a Bembe Segue vocal.

For starters:

4 Hero - Something In the Way
Mika Arisaka & Bembe Segue - Misgivings
Bugz in the Attic - It Don't Work Like That
Mark De Clive-Lowe - State of the Mental

it really depends what they ARE interested in

^^^ also, not to be capn-save-a-Geir, but I'm pretty sure Hongro doesn't actually think that

daft punk - da funk. it worked for me

anything by king of woolworths (ming star album especially), minotaur shock, oh and possibly man machine by kraftwerk, thats known to be quite a good electronic album with melodies.

I wouldn't need this as there is a lot of nice electronic music with nice melodies. First of all, I like some non-melodic electronica too, but I grew up with synthpop and I absolutely love stuff such as Yazoo, Human League and not least Depeche Mode.

But I guess they don't count as electronic music to those who insist that electronic music have no tunes?

Anyway, the most typical examples of those who dislike electronic music do so because it doesn't "rock" enough, so playing them some Nine Inch Nails, Die Krupps, Rammstein or Ministry would probably be a better bet.

And most recent electronica has tunes, so this idea about electronic music not being supposed to have tunes is Soooo 90s. Get over it already!

Get the Orbital out.

Orbital did play a certain part in converting me into electronica back then. Today, there is a lot of electronica around that is way more melodic than Orbital, with their sometimes strange tritonuses, ever were though.

Sometimes Strange Tritonuses - I don't know what it means but it sounds like a great album.

The tritonus is the main chord in the locrian minor. The strangest out of all the modale keys and hardly ever used (certainly not back in the medieval age as composing something in a locrian key would be the same as calling out the name of Satan)

needs to be a stoner metal album stat

the funeral march

I am still none the wiser.

Examples?

The opening chord to Purple Haze no?

I had a valid suggestion, but Scik Mouthy got there first

and now I have another one: Ulrich Schnauss!

Give them some drugs.

barbara morgenstern

the weird thing to me is that I don't understand - after all this time - why something like, say, Cut Copy, is considered electronica/dance music/whatever instead of, y'know, a synthpop album. Or the Studio or LCD Soundsystem or the Juan MacLean - these are guys making music with "traditional" instrumentation (at least to some degree - live drums, guitars, bass, vocals, etc.) and they have song structures and melodies and whatnot. how is this different from an indie rock band that's pro-tooled the fuck out of their tracks, I mean, isn't that basically what they are...?

I'd try something melodic, with some texture and organic

four tet
kid loco
bonobo
cinematic orchestra
earlier fila brazillia

Add K&D to that list.

How about DJ Shadow? I'm always unsure as to whether he counts as hip-hop or electronic.

DJ Shadow counts as crap

LULZ

Why would someone want to change someone else's stupid opinion?

i'm sure you can make money off it somehow

Some tracks for a counterintuitive approach to electronic music:

Waiworinao- Villalobos
Lähetys- Pan Sonic
Phylyps Trak- Basic Channel

Alternatively, if said person has a mellow personality and has lived in a cave for the past 10 years, Air's "Moon Safari" .

http://www.connollyco.com/discography/jeanmichel_jarre/equinoxe_hi.jpg

Jarre is a good one, Kid Loco's not bad, either, and Ulrich Schnauss might work well for a certain taste in music.

Cylob's "Are We Not Men Who Live And Die?" or, really, almost anything by Cylob. Or maybe Raymond Scott or some Eno off of, like, Another Green World.

But really, I'd look at them like they were seriously pissed that Green Day was called "punk" or that they were dismissing pop as all manufactured, or whatever, and direct them to the Challops threads, where they could enjoy themselves heartily.

I would play a distorted tape loop of me laughing.

The opening chord to Purple Haze no?

No, that is a Maj7, only without the middle one.

The tritonus is exactly in the middle. I believe some police sirens use that particular interval a lot.

the weird thing to me is that I don't understand - after all this time - why something like, say, Cut Copy, is considered electronica/dance music/whatever instead of, y'know, a synthpop album.

Because it is actually a neo-postpunk album like similar albums by The Bravery and MGMT?

Geir: You mean tritones? That's stacked whole tones, no? Basic King Crimson 101...

I think this is OTM "it really depends what they ARE interested in" although someone who's not used to hearing looped samples or quantized sequencing might be in for a bit of a shock no matter what you play them. I mean omeone who likes disco, might not be into some Theo Parrish or KDJ, just because that's what they sample.

This thread might be useful. So I loaned this guy at work the Hercules & Love Affair album...

92-96 Warp Records-type stuff is what sold me, a once electronicphobe.

Alberto Balsam by Aphex Twin
The Chase by Giorgio Moroder
Warsazwa by David Bowie
Computer Games by Yellow Magic Orchestra
Good Life by Inner City
Can U Feel It by Fingers Inc
No Way Back by Adonis
NTT DoCoMo by Arpanet

Kraftwerk
Air
Wendy Carlos

If they don't like at least one of those, they don't like music period.

just take them to a club playing something good on a good system. get them drunk, feed them drugs. usually works. musical date rape.

(lol @ geir. a tritone is three whole tones, or six semitones. one note below a perfect 5th. so on a keyboard C-F#. on a guitar play an open E and on the next string down play the first fret. the first chord of purple haze has a root/home note of E but has a G# and D in it. together they form a tritone. there is also a G natural in it, which clashes with the G#. thats why the chord is nasty. mmm.)

Yep, a tritone is the name here. Used a lot by Orbital.

(but surely also King Crimson)

Caribou, too.

Unrelated to what Geir said, btw.