2002 so far = Dire Year For Pop?

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it's ugly at the top!

http://www.dotmusic.co.uk/charts/top20s2002.asp

can someone give that a propah link?

Paul, Monday, 20 May 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

and the past week's Top Of The Pops had to be one of the worst evah!
worst boring

Paul, Monday, 20 May 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

the fact is that nobody outside the UK takes UK charts serious. looking at the dotmusic UK top 20 chats I guess we are right. except from Puretone's Addicted To Bass this is a very sad list.

theo ploeg, Monday, 20 May 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

It's been a pretty good year for pop...Holly Valance, Shakira, Sugar Babes etc.

jel --, Monday, 20 May 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

oh i dunno - alcazar, moony, sugababes, richard x, soulwax, and all the bootleg kids, kylie, telepopmusic, basement jaxx, tweet. + it's only may. it's no 1990, but then it's certainly no 2000.

piscesboy, Monday, 20 May 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

good pop records 2002 till now are made by Desert Hearts, ikara colt, afunken, the streets, and you will know us by the trail of death, jazzanova.

theo ploeg, Monday, 20 May 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

So far this year there has been roughly the same proportion of good/bad pop recs as in every other year. Perhaps there hasn't been one utterly blinding tune that pretty much everyone can rally round - eg Get Ur Freak On - but we're not even halfway through yet.

Andrew L, Monday, 20 May 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

I've not gotten excited about anything this year. I nearly got excited over Blak Twang, but then I didn't. It's been a piss poor year for music, and I wish I had something constructive to say.

Judd Nelson, Monday, 20 May 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

>>> "Perhaps there hasn't been one utterly blinding tune that pretty much everyone can rally round - eg Get Ur Freak On"

"Pretty much everyone"... I see.

the pinefox, Monday, 20 May 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

On a sidenote, "Get Ur Freak On" was voted worst single of the year by the readers of Hip Hop Connection. Dunno what that proves.

Dom Passantino, Monday, 20 May 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

at least there's a little tiny space for you pinefox!

Josh, Monday, 20 May 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

i didn't know the pinefox read hip hop connection!

mitch lastnamewithheld, Monday, 20 May 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

probably proves that English hip-hop fans are extremely self- conscious about keepin' it real

M Matos, Monday, 20 May 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

i agree with jel

mark s, Monday, 20 May 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

I don't think in years, I think in haircolor. If it's dark colored, it's GRATE. It's if dyed, it's hovering in between grateness and dullness. If it's blonde, it's bound to be stupid.

Paul, don't worry, it's even WORSE at the bottom. Think horizontal!

cuba libre (nathalie), Monday, 20 May 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

worst boring TOTP as in worst dull
as opposed to worst so-bad-it's-good or terrible-things-happened
worst blah as in:
no garage MC/pop
no cyber-R&B
no cheesy trance with lovelies like the 4 Strings chick
not even Holly Valance (so there's hope for the Top Singles Of 2002 yet?)
as in highlight was OLD clip of Duh Hives...
as in enuff with the drab ballads (this from a ballads luvver/apologist!)
that explain 'boring' enough for ya?

Paul, Monday, 20 May 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

Ah, not so... get into microhouse and realize that this is a year that, in four and a half months, has produced quite a few absolutely great records. Anyone looking for something good should pick up the new MRI album 'All That Glitters', the new Akufen ('My Way'), and/or the comp of Herbert remixes ('Secondhand Sounds'). Beatophobes stay away.

Clarke B., Monday, 20 May 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

I actually stopped reading Hip Hop Connection because of the snobbery over anything with an R&B element or which went Top 40 so I can see where they're coming from with the Get Ur Freak On thing. It's an HHC thing in particular, not a British hip-hop fans' thing as a whole.

Robin Carmody, Monday, 20 May 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

I was thinking it hadn't been a vintage season until I put together the focus group and realised how many of the records I like. Things are doing OK.

Tom, Monday, 20 May 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

I like the way things are getting stylistically varied again - urgent cyber-sci-fi stuff like Sugababes aways sounds better in the context of different sounds rather than as a staple diet. In that sense maybe 2002 is a bit like 1999 (or: do you remember when Shania Twain was alive and well and releasing good pop songs?).

Baha Men's "Move It Like This" is very good, incidentally.

Tim, Monday, 20 May 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

baha men have nevah made a bad record: discuss (quietly)

mark s, Monday, 20 May 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

Mark if you have not yet done so, you must hear the b-side of the aforementioned new single, being "Breakaway". Utter confirmation of the trite=pathos equation ==> it is brilliant.

Tim, Monday, 20 May 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

I see what you mean Tom - just looked at this again:
http://www.dotmusic.co.uk/charts/top20s2001.asp
and it doesn't seem that much better (esp. for a whole year)
maybe it's always stinky (mix of) at the top

agree there's been lots of good singles/songs this year anyway
(BTW - that was a yes vote for Holly above)
as fer you lateral/underground folks - emoglitch, micropop - could be, could be!

Paul, Monday, 20 May 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

agree there's been lots of good singles/songs this year anyway

Does this mean you have now decided to answer your own question in the negative, Paul? As for me, I'm beginning to wonder if someone stole my critical faculties on December 31st. I've bought perhaps a couple of dozen pop records ('pop' in its broadest sense here, as defined by the Pinefox) with 2002 date-stamped on them, and cannot think of a single duff one.

Jeff W, Tuesday, 21 May 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

of course it will be a great year for what I consider Pop
but what's actually popular at the top looks unpromising

that add to the Pop-not-Pop semantic confusion?

Paul, Tuesday, 21 May 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

Pink went from having a great single and one of the best to releasing the worst lamest most cliched piece of shit I've heard all year by miles. Jesus her new song is absolute crap.

Ronan, Tuesday, 21 May 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

five years pass...

2002, the year the Streets and the Libertines changed everything

That one guy that hit it and quit it, Saturday, 21 July 2007 15:17 (eighteen years ago)

Why do they say that in the interview. Its like: Established Fact #23 or something. Weird.

I know, right?, Saturday, 21 July 2007 15:22 (eighteen years ago)

it's completely wtf. sylvia patterson is only about 60, i didn't realize she'd gone senile.

That one guy that hit it and quit it, Saturday, 21 July 2007 15:25 (eighteen years ago)

The WTFest quotation:

"When I was growing up our role models were fake and thin and pretty and pop and shiny and American R&B. If you look who's in the public eye now, everyone has a different style and body."

*despairs*

Jeb, Saturday, 21 July 2007 15:41 (eighteen years ago)

this thread title is hilarious looking back

blueski, Saturday, 21 July 2007 17:43 (eighteen years ago)


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