Bruce Springsteen & The E-Street Band - Live / 1975-85

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Christgau sez:

"Any event this public will provoke backlash, and any album this monumental is sure to arouse unreasonable expectations and unlikely to satisfy the reasonable ones. So if not one of the eight songs from Born in the U.S.A. improves on the studio version, how bad does that make them? If what little remains of the mid-'70s shows that turned him into a legend is overblown enough to make you wonder if you got taken, trust yourself. If the three new originals and four covers don't leap out, figure they weren't supposed to. This album is about continuity and honest reassurance, a job very well done. Although it takes some smart chances (e.g., "War"), it wasn't meant to shock or enlighten or redefine--it was meant to sum up, and it does. There isn't one of its ten sides that excites me end to end, and there isn't one I couldn't play with active pleasure now or five years from now. If anything, it isn't long enough."

Poll Results

OptionVotes
1-01 Thunder Road (5:41) 4
1-07 Growin' Up (7:56) 3
3-01 The River (11:37) 2
3-07 I'm On Fire (4:23) 1
3-02 War (4:51) 1
2-14 Seeds (5:13) 1
2-13 Born In The U.S.A. (6:07) 1
3-13 Jersey Girl (6:31) 1
2-04 Badlands (5:15) 1
1-10 Rosalita (Come Out Tonight) (10:00) 1
1-08 It's Hard To Be A Saint In The City (4:37) 1
1-11 Raise Your Hand (5:14) 0
1-04 4th Of July, Asbury Park (Sandy) (6:29) 0
1-03 Spirit In The Night (6:22) 0
3-03 Darlington County (5:12) 0
3-04 Working On The Highway (3:59) 0
3-05 The Promised Land (5:32) 0
3-06 Cover Me (6:58) 0
1-02 Adam Raised A Cain (5:25) 0
3-08 Bobby Jean (4:27) 0
3-09 My Hometown (5:08) 0
3-10 Born To Run (5:02) 0
3-11 No Surrender (4:42) 0
3-12 Tenth Avenue Freeze-Out (4:18) 0
1-05 Paradise By The "C" (3:34) 0
1-06 Fire (3:11) 0
2-12 Reason To Believe (5:19) 0
1-12 Hungry Heart (4:28) 0
1-13 Two Hearts (3:06) 0
2-01 Cadillac Ranch (4:50) 0
2-02 You Can Look (But You Better Not Touch) (3:51) 0
2-03 Independence Day (5:09) 0
1-09 Backstreets (7:26) 0
2-05 Because The Night (5:18) 0
2-06 Candy's Room (3:09) 0
2-07 Darkness On The Edge Of Town (4:24) 0
2-09 This Land Is Your Land (4:17) 0
2-10 Nebraska (4:16) 0
2-11 Johnny 99 (4:21) 0
2-08 Racing In The Street (8:13) 0


what U cry 4 (jim), Monday, 20 October 2008 23:20 (seventeen years ago)

I sez: number of great renditions on this, It's Hard To Be A Saint In The City, Hungry Heart, Nebraska, the River, No Surrender etc. but I might have to go with the opening track Thunder Road.

what U cry 4 (jim), Monday, 20 October 2008 23:22 (seventeen years ago)

Hungry Heart is awesome, great box set anyway, but what's the track where Bruce starts talking about "i think my mother and father are here tonight", so cheesy/sentimental, but I love it.

Ludo, Tuesday, 21 October 2008 10:00 (seventeen years ago)

Jersey Girl is great too, it almost saved that Kevin Smith movie.

Ludo, Tuesday, 21 October 2008 10:00 (seventeen years ago)

"Jersey Girl"!

**just works just fine** (Ioannis), Tuesday, 21 October 2008 10:14 (seventeen years ago)

Gor, didn't the epeople go mad for this one, at the time?

And isn't it another one going for neext to nowt at charity shops?

Mark G, Tuesday, 21 October 2008 10:17 (seventeen years ago)

I remember the LINES for this; people camped overnight outside a Specs Records and Tapes. It was the holiday record of '86.

Alfred, Lord Sotosyn, Tuesday, 21 October 2008 12:36 (seventeen years ago)

Hungry Heart is awesome, great box set anyway, but what's the track where Bruce starts talking about "i think my mother and father are here tonight", so cheesy/sentimental, but I love it.

Middle of "Growin' up".

what U cry 4 (jim), Tuesday, 21 October 2008 12:39 (seventeen years ago)

Ha, I waited till a year after release to pick this one up for like 10 bucks! Which is about as much use as I got out of it. I still like that first cassette/CD - the 1978 stuff. After that, my interest fades in indirect proportion to the steadily increasing venues. The spoken bits are kinda nice, but the energy dissipates. So, it's "Hard To Be A Saint In The City" for me.

Myonga Vön Bontee, Tuesday, 21 October 2008 13:35 (seventeen years ago)

xgau gave soulja boy's album an A. end of thread.

Kevin Keller, Tuesday, 21 October 2008 13:39 (seventeen years ago)

This thread isn't about the merits of Christgau or Soulja Boy (though they're both classic), it's about the Boss. So jog on, you cunt.

what U cry 4 (jim), Tuesday, 21 October 2008 13:42 (seventeen years ago)

Is it the intro to "War" where Bruce talks about failing the draft exam, the audience laughs, and he says "It isn't funny."

☑ (Pleasant Plains), Tuesday, 21 October 2008 14:22 (seventeen years ago)

Can we vote for random bits of dialogue?

If so, I'm going for "a suit ... a LEGAL suit."

Jake Brown, Tuesday, 21 October 2008 14:23 (seventeen years ago)

xpost. It's at the start of the River, which is the track before War.

what U cry 4 (jim), Tuesday, 21 October 2008 14:28 (seventeen years ago)

Dialogue-wise, he gets 5 demerits for taking no chances and automatically censoring himself (ie. fading the final two syllables of "motherfucker") rather than risk offending many thousands of his fans.

Myonga Vön Bontee, Tuesday, 21 October 2008 16:53 (seventeen years ago)

His monologue about the draft and his father is pretty heartbreaking.

sexyDancer, Tuesday, 21 October 2008 16:58 (seventeen years ago)

I don't like how he changed the line in "Rosalita" about getting a "big advance" to a "big contract."

The Wild Shirtless Lyrics of Mark Farner (C. Grisso/McCain), Tuesday, 21 October 2008 17:00 (seventeen years ago)

Born In The USA. That version is just overpowering.

kornrulez6969, Tuesday, 21 October 2008 17:16 (seventeen years ago)

I heard this box (many times) before I heard most of the studio albums, so these still sound like the definitive versions to me-- esp. in the case of "Thunder Road."

President Keyes, Tuesday, 21 October 2008 17:35 (seventeen years ago)

the river for the story, probably. my dad used to rock this on the regular. oh simpler times.

rent, Tuesday, 21 October 2008 18:11 (seventeen years ago)

Middle of "Growin' up".

ah thanks, voted for that one. :)

Ludo, Tuesday, 21 October 2008 19:33 (seventeen years ago)

His monologue about the draft and his father is pretty heartbreaking.

― sexyDancer

Yeah, it is quite corny but affecting (like a lot of things the Boss is involved with). The teenage guys going out all night a few days before the medical for being drafted and being all nervous actually made me think, usually just think about the Vietnam war in terms of "the poor Vietnamese", not "the poor American teenage-boys scared shitless going off the other side of the world to get brutalised, maimed and killed". But he tells a good story.

what U cry 4 (jim), Tuesday, 21 October 2008 23:23 (seventeen years ago)

I love this version of Jersey Girl but after I later heard Tom Waits' original I really started missing the last verse (and wondering why Springsteen omitted it): "And I call your name/I can't sleep at night." Without it the song takes on a whole different meaning, more escapist and celebratory.

Jake Brown, Wednesday, 22 October 2008 00:38 (seventeen years ago)

Bought this mint on vinyl for a buck last year. (!)

Poppa loves a bargain.

Havnet listened to it with enough intensity to participate in the poll, though.

staggerlee, Wednesday, 22 October 2008 00:48 (seventeen years ago)

wow that's a bargain for sure.

i got it on vinyl as well, which is a strange story. I knew a girl in an American punkrock band, who said i got a couple of Bruce Springsteen records I hate, wanna have them? Sure i said, i actually thought they were cd's too. I wasn't really into the Boss, thinking it would be a good gift for my mother's birthday. So they arrive just in time, my mother opens the package (which is already mysteriously big) turns out it's vinyl (which my mother has no use for) and it's a record she already has (on tape haha) And my mom is all like oh poor girl the shipping costs are too much etc. etc.

so.. I kept them myself in the end. Mwuahaha.

Ludo, Wednesday, 22 October 2008 11:57 (seventeen years ago)

Automatic thread bump. This poll is closing tomorrow.

System, Thursday, 30 October 2008 00:01 (seventeen years ago)

Dialogue-wise, he gets 5 demerits for taking no chances and automatically censoring himself (ie. fading the final two syllables of "motherfucker") rather than risk offending many thousands of his fans.

He actually said "motherfucker"; the conglomerate broadcasting the concert at the time (I think it was Westwood One) censored it and, for whatever reason, that was the only copy available for use for the live album (no pre-edit master could be found).

Formerly Painful Dentistry, Thursday, 30 October 2008 01:32 (seventeen years ago)

Automatic thread bump. This poll's results are now in.

System, Friday, 31 October 2008 00:01 (seventeen years ago)

The "motherfucker" you should complain about is James Taylor's on the Greatest Hits versopm of "Steamroller Blues" (decent track, actually). He deleted it or blurred it, can't remember whcih, on a reissue a few years ago for the sake of kids listening with their parents. After Greatest Hits had already sold eleven million motherfucking copies.

If Timi Yuro would be still alive, most other singers could shut up, Friday, 31 October 2008 00:16 (seventeen years ago)

which

If Timi Yuro would be still alive, most other singers could shut up, Friday, 31 October 2008 00:16 (seventeen years ago)

I'm pretty sure I voted for "Thunder Road". What a terrific performance, the one I reach for first when I want to hear that song.

Euler, Friday, 31 October 2008 00:24 (seventeen years ago)

version!

If Timi Yuro would be still alive, most other singers could shut up, Friday, 31 October 2008 00:25 (seventeen years ago)

xxxxxpost - All right, 5-demerit penalty reversed if the researchers truly lost the master! (Reduced to three if they were merely too lazy to look for it.)

As for James Taylor, I have absolutely no opinion.

Myonga Vön Bontee, Friday, 31 October 2008 08:57 (seventeen years ago)

I probably should have voted Thunder Road. I do now think of this version as the default.

what U cry 4 (jim), Friday, 31 October 2008 14:43 (seventeen years ago)

two months pass...

I always thought this was pretty great, but now I've listened to some of the legendary Darkness/River shows (Roxy! Agora! Passaic! Winterland! Tempe! Nassau!) I've come to the conclusion that this box set has had all energy and enthusiasm mixed out of it.

StanM, Monday, 12 January 2009 16:14 (seventeen years ago)

Yeah, I think that is pretty true -- if you want to make a Springsteen believer out of someone, play he/she one of those 78 bootlegs ... Less "serious artist" Brooce and more just a kickass performer, with a tight/fun band.

tylerw, Monday, 12 January 2009 16:18 (seventeen years ago)

Seeds is a great song, but I like the acoustic version from the '86 Bridge benefit more than the amped-up full-band version here.

Eazy, Monday, 12 January 2009 16:36 (seventeen years ago)

is the We Are The World album the only place to find "Trapped"?

Alfred, Lord Sotosyn, Monday, 12 January 2009 16:42 (seventeen years ago)

It's on the bonus disc of The Essential, not sure if that's still in print in 3xCD form.

Mark, Monday, 12 January 2009 16:51 (seventeen years ago)

When I was 6 (1986), my grandparents gave me this as a Christmas present. I tried listening to the whole thing that night but I think there were some good shows on Nickelodeon so my attention span didn't allow me to listen all in one shot like I had originally hoped. That was a good day for me.

billstevejim, Monday, 12 January 2009 17:02 (seventeen years ago)

I haven't listened to this box in ages, because I'd rather listen to a dozen better boots, but I do know several of the tracks on here are edited versions of performances from the famed Roxy and Winterland shows. Maybe they'll show up officially if that Darkness anniversary set ever appears.

Josh in Chicago, Monday, 12 January 2009 19:38 (seventeen years ago)


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