I remember reading a few months ago in a book (it may have been "There's a Riot Goin' On") that Jean-Luc Godard said, when filming the Jefferson Airplane in concert for a film of his, that the band "epitomized everything (Godard) is about." This got me thinking about what a perfect match the filmmaker and the band seemed to be for each other. Both Godard and J.A. were icons of the 1960s counter culture, painfully self-indulgent at their worst, briefly Maoist, and though highly original they seem incredibly dated today. Now while some of those similarities are subjective opinions of mine, it made me think of a second, even better, idea: how many other filmmakers have a matching rock band/pop star?
Right off the top I could think of Quentin Tarantino/Pavement. They both ascended around the same time, are incredibly smartass, have always enticed critics with their vast knowledge of film and rock and roll's past (and the way they can litter their works with homages and in-jokes that only fellow buffs will appreciate), and both still have a strong presence amongst undergrads. I'm sure there are many more similarities between those two.
Anyway, what other filmmaker-band connections can we make? Does Steven Spielberg have a corresponding band? Is Wes Andersen/Belle and Sebastian a fit, or is that just the obvious answer? What about Scorsese/Rolling Stones? This could be fun, ILM.
― Cunga, Friday, 24 October 2008 03:24 (seventeen years ago)
I thought Tarantino was the Jesus Lizard.
― ian, Friday, 24 October 2008 03:26 (seventeen years ago)
tarantino's more of a pavement to me.
― Kevin Keller, Friday, 24 October 2008 03:59 (seventeen years ago)
that's the most disgusting blasphemy i've ever heard.
― the bourgeoisie and the rebel (Stevie D), Friday, 24 October 2008 04:03 (seventeen years ago)
David Cronenberg/Aphex Twin
damn stevie, must be a boring life you lead :pxp
― Kevin Keller, Friday, 24 October 2008 04:04 (seventeen years ago)
Tarkovsky- Sigur Rós
― Vision, Friday, 24 October 2008 04:09 (seventeen years ago)
Orson Welles/Scott Walker
― Cunga, Friday, 24 October 2008 04:12 (seventeen years ago)
Chris Marker, Robert Ashley.
― ian, Friday, 24 October 2008 04:57 (seventeen years ago)
Bill Forsyth - Roddy Frame/Aztec Camera?
― Cunga, Friday, 24 October 2008 16:33 (seventeen years ago)
Beyond the collaboration on Faces, Cassavetes and Mingus shared a scrappy outlook and prickly humor. And both were happy blurring the line between composing/scripting and improvisation. It's always hard to tell what's planned and what being made up in their work.
― bendy, Friday, 24 October 2008 17:43 (seventeen years ago)
Obvious answer: Scorsese/Clash
― Jazzbo, Friday, 24 October 2008 17:58 (seventeen years ago)
ed wood - misfits
― I'm glad the chihuahua beat it this wkend (latebloomer), Friday, 24 October 2008 19:01 (seventeen years ago)
Woody Allen/SparksDavid Lynch/Pere Ubu
― Vaguely Threatening CAPTCHAs, Friday, 24 October 2008 19:07 (seventeen years ago)
Wes Anderson would like to be matched with the Kinks but it is actually Vampire Weekend
Also Tarkovsky/ Sigue Ros? No-o-o-o-o.....!
He's worth Can at least, and they're about on a level with Luc Besson or somesuch
― sonofstan, Friday, 24 October 2008 21:19 (seventeen years ago)
ha!
― Cunga, Friday, 24 October 2008 21:41 (seventeen years ago)
otm
― I'm glad the chihuahua beat it this wkend (latebloomer), Friday, 24 October 2008 21:48 (seventeen years ago)
rob zombie/rob zombie
― I'm glad the chihuahua beat it this wkend (latebloomer), Friday, 24 October 2008 21:49 (seventeen years ago)
Tarantino is no where near as boring as Pavement.
― Alex in SF, Friday, 24 October 2008 21:51 (seventeen years ago)
that's the other way around.
― ian, Friday, 24 October 2008 21:56 (seventeen years ago)
Nope it's right.
― Alex in SF, Friday, 24 October 2008 21:58 (seventeen years ago)
i mentioned it for the obvious postmodern influences in each artist's work.
i find it sad that someone could be so pathetically humorless to call pavement "boring".
― Kevin Keller, Friday, 24 October 2008 22:00 (seventeen years ago)
Yes, cuz Pavement such good joke-rock, of course.
― Alex in SF, Friday, 24 October 2008 22:01 (seventeen years ago)
Anyway not to derail the thread, I think I could see someone like Kubrick = Scott Walker. Woody Allen seems more like Prince to me.
― Alex in SF, Friday, 24 October 2008 22:03 (seventeen years ago)
minus some of the sauciness obv.
― Alex in SF, Friday, 24 October 2008 22:04 (seventeen years ago)
The image of Woody dressed in a purple jumpsuit, tootling a pink clarinet (oh, er) springs irrestibly to mind.....Otherwise, not sure I see it?Richard Curtis/ James Blunt?Dickie Attenborough/ Sting?
and a good one:Duke Ellington/ Howard Hawks
― sonofstan, Friday, 24 October 2008 22:12 (seventeen years ago)
Who matches with the Smiths? John Schlesinger?
Oh, and I guess we can get the obvious out of the way with Warhol/Velvet Underground.
― Cunga, Friday, 24 October 2008 22:26 (seventeen years ago)
Woody Allen and Prince is inspired, really.Others:Richard Linklater / PavementGodard / Beatles (think about it)Fassbinder / Velvet UndergroundScorsese / Rolling StonesAntonioni (or Visconti) / Roxy MusicAltman / Captain Beefheart?What band is Cassavettes?
― iago g., Saturday, 25 October 2008 01:30 (seventeen years ago)
boetticher- link wrayis john waters germs or flipper?fassbinder- half japanese or maybe gg allin if he was gooddreyer-kraftwerk
are any of these right? this is hard.
also bresson-homosexuals if they did more than one album? maybe pole.wes anderson- esquivel
― Hinklepicker, Saturday, 25 October 2008 01:33 (seventeen years ago)
What band is Hitchcock?(It's amazing what smoking a bowl does to this thread)
― iago g., Saturday, 25 October 2008 01:34 (seventeen years ago)
hitchcock could be serge gainsborg or maybe birthday party
― Hinklepicker, Saturday, 25 October 2008 01:52 (seventeen years ago)
(It's amazing what smoking a bowl does to this thread)
Alas, far too many of my threads go well with that.
― Cunga, Saturday, 25 October 2008 01:53 (seventeen years ago)
I'm kind of teetering on the edge of committing to Guy Maddin/Magnetic Fields...
― dlp9001, Saturday, 25 October 2008 01:55 (seventeen years ago)
Oh yeah, you couldn't have thought of that without being highGreat idea btw.
― iago g., Saturday, 25 October 2008 01:55 (seventeen years ago)
well, thank you
― Cunga, Saturday, 25 October 2008 02:34 (seventeen years ago)
John Waters and the B-52s
― EZ Snappin, Saturday, 25 October 2008 02:47 (seventeen years ago)
steven spielberg/?
― I'm glad the chihuahua beat it this wkend (latebloomer), Saturday, 25 October 2008 02:52 (seventeen years ago)
i was thinking michael jackson but spielberg is still successful and popular
― I'm glad the chihuahua beat it this wkend (latebloomer), Saturday, 25 October 2008 02:53 (seventeen years ago)
Spielberg and U2 - both over-earnest and prone to large hammy gestures.
― EZ Snappin, Saturday, 25 October 2008 02:55 (seventeen years ago)
B-52's is good but dosent have the shock value needed for his early films? Otherwise perfect fit.
― Hinklepicker, Saturday, 25 October 2008 02:59 (seventeen years ago)
Robert Bresson- Ornette Coleman
― Hinklepicker, Saturday, 25 October 2008 04:24 (seventeen years ago)
So, essentially, filmmakers I like are musicians I don't like?
― Eric H., Saturday, 25 October 2008 04:28 (seventeen years ago)
Spielberg and U2
― Kevin Keller, Saturday, 25 October 2008 04:34 (seventeen years ago)
What specifically are you referring to Eric?
― Hinklepicker, Saturday, 25 October 2008 04:53 (seventeen years ago)
The fact that I like most of these directors and dislike most of these musicians.
― Eric H., Saturday, 25 October 2008 04:54 (seventeen years ago)
Like which filmmaker is the Isley Brothers?
― Eric H., Saturday, 25 October 2008 04:55 (seventeen years ago)
Larry Cohen
― Alex in SF, Saturday, 25 October 2008 05:09 (seventeen years ago)
Which musicians do you like? Very hard to have a discussion over generalities. Perhaps it could work the other way round.
― Hinklepicker, Saturday, 25 October 2008 05:16 (seventeen years ago)
OK, I want filmmakers who match with Roy Ayers Ubiquity, Masters at Work, Wonderlove, The Gap Band, The Supremes, One Way, Parliament, Daft Punk, Basement Jaxx, Earth Wind & Fire, A Tribe Called Quest and Dr. Buzzard's Original Savannah Band.
― Eric H., Saturday, 25 October 2008 05:29 (seventeen years ago)
who is spike lee?
― Kevin Keller, Saturday, 25 October 2008 06:02 (seventeen years ago)
there are some holes in this, but scott walker feels like a david lynch. the whole schmaltz mixed with the grotesque.
tarantino is kinda serge gainsbourg. or a more rock n roll stereolab.
― circa1916, Thursday, 21 May 2009 08:37 (sixteen years ago)
Anyone read the recent Sunday NYTimes piece where QT talked about his new Nazi hunter movie? I thoguht he canme off as a Holy Idiot whose success is likely due to a set of congenital quirks and deficiencies -- making him the Wesley Willis of filmdom.
― mottdeterre, Thursday, 21 May 2009 16:22 (sixteen years ago)
Tarantino can get really excited and come off as sort of aspie or even idiot savantish at times, but I think calling him the Wesley Willis of film is a little extreme. I mean, as weird a dude QT is, he's not really on the same level as a schizophrenic outsider musician who belts out songs about sucking animals' dicks over Casio beats.
(not intending to slander Wesley Willis, just illustrating a point)
― circa1916, Thursday, 21 May 2009 20:15 (sixteen years ago)
I think David Lynch = Jesus and Mary Chain
The first similarity is that their most revered work came out within a year of each other, then there is the way they both took traditional genres from yesteryear (both used innocent 1960s pop, and in BV the all-American boy's mystery case) and subversively warped them beyond belief - influencing legions of others. Lastly, there's the intentionally bad production (the feedback throughout Psychocandy, the fact that Blue Velvet's washed-out look was achieved by not developing the film footage correctly. In both cases people wondered whether these things were mistakes or aesthetic choices).
Psychocandy would actually soundtrack quite well to a few Blue Velvet scenes imo.
― Cunga, Thursday, 3 September 2009 03:52 (sixteen years ago)
Don't really agree with Mary Chain for Lynch. They just arent wierd or baffling in any way really whereas Lynch is a lot. He seems to be all about the sub concious and dream states- Mary Chain just foggy, dark, noisy pop songs. I would go with Sun Ra for Lynch or maybe Sun City Girls.
― Hinklepicker, Thursday, 3 September 2009 04:39 (sixteen years ago)
My comparison works better if you just single out Psychocandy and BV, now that I've thought about it.
― Cunga, Thursday, 3 September 2009 04:44 (sixteen years ago)
michael bay = the prodigy― the bourgeoisie and the rebel (Stevie D),
Michael Bay:Dragonforce― 8 HOOS Dog (BIG HOOS aka the steendriver),
Michael Bay - U2
― meisenfek, Thursday, 3 September 2009 05:29 (sixteen years ago)
Suggest Ban Permalink― meisenfek, jueves 3 de septiembre de 2009 06:29 AM (25 minutes ago)
Michael Bay - KISS
― Moka, Thursday, 3 September 2009 05:55 (sixteen years ago)
Jim Jarmusch - The White Stripes
― BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Thursday, 3 September 2009 05:59 (sixteen years ago)
gaspar noé - genesis p-orridge
― meisenfek, Friday, 4 September 2009 03:38 (sixteen years ago)
Walt Disney - Phil Spector
― dad a, Friday, 4 September 2009 03:42 (sixteen years ago)
guy ritchie - bloodhound gang
― meisenfek, Friday, 4 September 2009 03:45 (sixteen years ago)
If I said that Kevin Smith were Weezer, does that make Judd Apatow a kind of Blink 182?
― Cunga, Friday, 4 September 2009 04:12 (sixteen years ago)
roland emmerich - liberace
― meisenfek, Friday, 4 September 2009 06:35 (sixteen years ago)
abel ferrara - iggy pop
― meisenfek, Friday, 4 September 2009 06:43 (sixteen years ago)
werner herzog - moondog
― meisenfek, Friday, 4 September 2009 06:45 (sixteen years ago)
Michael Herz & Lloyd Kaufman (troma) - Sam Sacks
― meisenfek, Friday, 4 September 2009 06:48 (sixteen years ago)
Sonic Youth is totally fucking Godard.
― also beheadings - have you seen any? (circa1916), Wednesday, 12 May 2010 08:57 (fifteen years ago)
this came from a conversation tonight that placed Herzog as SWANS and Godard as SY, btw.
― also beheadings - have you seen any? (circa1916), Wednesday, 12 May 2010 08:59 (fifteen years ago)
did jefferson airplane REALLY have a maoist phase??!!
― Greatest contributor: (history mayne), Wednesday, 12 May 2010 08:59 (fifteen years ago)
godard prolly more like dylan
― Greatest contributor: (history mayne), Wednesday, 12 May 2010 09:00 (fifteen years ago)
discounting the politics, SY and Godard totally hipster name-checking sorta shtick. also pretty radical, fucking shit up approach to their craft.
― also beheadings - have you seen any? (circa1916), Wednesday, 12 May 2010 09:08 (fifteen years ago)
also all decent work done in first decade of career
― Coalition (Remix) (Noodle Vague), Wednesday, 12 May 2010 11:53 (fifteen years ago)
(joeks, like some later Godard)
> Sonic Youth is totally fucking Godard.
Bad mental image.
― SongOfSam, Wednesday, 12 May 2010 14:11 (fifteen years ago)
Michael Bay is Pendulum of course.
― village idiot (dog latin), Wednesday, 12 May 2010 14:17 (fifteen years ago)
Sofia Coppola = Phoenix.
Sort of uninspired considering they're scoring her next film, but they work perfect for each other.
― kelpolaris, Wednesday, 12 May 2010 14:59 (fifteen years ago)
Yep, Sofia Coppola is totally fucking Phoenix.
― I just wish he hadn't adopted the "ilxor" moniker (ilxor), Wednesday, 12 May 2010 15:05 (fifteen years ago)
Oh wait.
Sonic Youth is the new Jefferson Airplane
― Snop Snitchin, Wednesday, 12 May 2010 15:22 (fifteen years ago)
David Lynch = The Raveonettes?
(Actually, whoever said Lynch = Scott Walker is probably right.)
― Hideous Lump, Thursday, 13 May 2010 02:47 (fifteen years ago)
Don Siegel - Link WrayClint Eastwood - Eric ClaptonNicolas Winding Refn - Trent ReznorRoman Polanski - Betrand Burgalat
― meisenfek, Thursday, 13 May 2010 05:36 (fifteen years ago)
* a very dark burgalat *
― meisenfek, Thursday, 13 May 2010 05:37 (fifteen years ago)
david lynch - david lynch
― meisenfek, Sunday, 23 May 2010 07:36 (fifteen years ago)
John Milius - Motörhead
― meisenfek, Sunday, 23 May 2010 07:37 (fifteen years ago)
Sam Raimi - Perez Prado
― meisenfek, Sunday, 23 May 2010 07:42 (fifteen years ago)
Joe Dante - The MisfitsDavid Lynch - David LynchGuy Ritchie - Lenny Kravitz
― meisenfek, Thursday, 1 July 2010 01:18 (fifteen years ago)
Claude Lelouch - Jay Kay
― meisenfek, Monday, 6 September 2010 00:10 (fifteen years ago)
Jacques Rivette - Can
Darren Aronofsky - Rollins Band
― Zeno, Monday, 6 September 2010 00:20 (fifteen years ago)
David Lynch = Aphex Twin's Selected Ambient Works (Vol. 2)
yes, yes, i will sign autographs later.
― lieutenant jimmy john (kelpolaris), Monday, 6 September 2010 00:35 (fifteen years ago)
spike jonze - pavementi get double points b/c he's already directed a music video or two for them. god i'm great.
― lieutenant jimmy john (kelpolaris), Monday, 6 September 2010 00:37 (fifteen years ago)
terrence malick - godspeed you! black emperor
― lieutenant jimmy john (kelpolaris), Monday, 6 September 2010 00:38 (fifteen years ago)
tony scott - theoretical girlsapichatpong weerasethakul - the united states of americayasujiro ozu - owl city
― no time for the prussian death cult (nakhchivan), Monday, 6 September 2010 00:56 (fifteen years ago)
Abel Ferrara = SuicideMichael Bay = Black-Eyed Peas
― Chris L, Monday, 6 September 2010 02:12 (fifteen years ago)
Russ Meyer = Sex Pistols?
― late adopter, Monday, 6 September 2010 02:32 (fifteen years ago)
Frank Capra = The Carpenters
― late adopter, Monday, 6 September 2010 02:33 (fifteen years ago)
Tim Burton = The Cure
― late adopter, Monday, 6 September 2010 02:35 (fifteen years ago)
Shane Meadows = Sham 69
― late adopter, Monday, 6 September 2010 02:37 (fifteen years ago)
Billy Wilder = The Kinks
― late adopter, Monday, 6 September 2010 02:41 (fifteen years ago)
late adopter, you fucking nailed it w/ burotn.
― lieutenant jimmy john (kelpolaris), Monday, 6 September 2010 04:46 (fifteen years ago)