Seems like a pretty basic thread, but I searched for a while and couldn't find it.
So yeah, songs that you CANNOT separate from their music videos no matter what context you hear them--ESPECIALLY if they don't make sense without them.
1. Thomas Dolby - "She Blinded Me With Science."I was listening to this in the park, and it might have been the first time I've heard it without the video attached. It makes no sense to have some dude just intermittently "yelling" SCIENCE!" if you can't watch the video for contextual clues and know he is, in fact, a mad scientist and Thomas, as narrator, is too. I can't imagine hearing this song before the video came out and it making any sense.
2. Michael Jackson - "Thriller"Again, what a weird song--the hottest record on earth and it's all about ghouls and demons and rotting inside a corpse's shell. What the fuck. With the video, it totally makes sense. This was like the 6th single off this album, so can any older ilXors describe hearing this song in 1983, before the video?
― jigglepanda.gif (Whiney G. Weingarten), Sunday, 26 October 2008 05:18 (seventeen years ago)
i cannot call myself a fan of this band, but when i was younger we had this station called "the box" that played music videos, and "californication" was huge. i must have been 11 or twelve at the time, i dunno. anyway, i still remember that video pretty vividly. another one i remember was "teenage dirtbag" by wheatus. now that i think of it, i can recall a shocking number of songs and videos from around the turn of the century, of drastically varying quality.
― Kevin Keller, Sunday, 26 October 2008 05:34 (seventeen years ago)
I certainly loved the song Thriller before the video appeared and anxiously awaited and watched the debut. But I would still agree that the two are inseparable now.
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Ministry "Jesus Built My Hotrod" is a song that really only makes sense/works with the video reference.
― Nate Carson, Sunday, 26 October 2008 05:42 (seventeen years ago)
Wicked Game--Chris Isaak
Addicted To Love--Robert Palmer
Love Is A Battlefield--Pat Benatar
Smuggler's Blues--Glenn Frye (this video blew my 7th grade mind)
Twilight Zone--Golden Earring
― kornrulez6969, Sunday, 26 October 2008 05:47 (seventeen years ago)
Weezer - Buddy Holly
Christine Aguelira - Dirrty
― Jack Battery-Pack, Sunday, 26 October 2008 07:25 (seventeen years ago)
sledgehammercradle of love
― velko, Sunday, 26 October 2008 07:54 (seventeen years ago)
Hit Me Baby One More Time
― Mordy, Sunday, 26 October 2008 07:59 (seventeen years ago)
Star Guitar - judging from the title the Chem's obviously had a different idea about what the song represented, but Gondry took his own vision and ran with it, and it is perfect.
Fun game: on a bus or train journey, put the song in yr headphones, look out the window, and make your own realtime video remix.
― ledge, Sunday, 26 October 2008 08:18 (seventeen years ago)
"Take On Me" - A Ha"Take A Chance On Me" - ABBA"Billie Jean" and "Beat It" - Michael Jackson
― snoball, Sunday, 26 October 2008 09:20 (seventeen years ago)
Green Jelly: Three Little Pigs
― Geir Hongro, Sunday, 26 October 2008 09:57 (seventeen years ago)
Eric Prydz - Call On Me, Lifelike & Kris Menace - Discopolis and many other soft porn videos for chart dance music.
― mmmm, Sunday, 26 October 2008 11:12 (seventeen years ago)
A lot of song parodies by Weird Al Yankovic
― Geir Hongro, Sunday, 26 October 2008 12:39 (seventeen years ago)
u2 -- numb
― Zeno, Sunday, 26 October 2008 12:59 (seventeen years ago)
Nothing compares 2 U
― tommytannoy, Sunday, 26 October 2008 13:43 (seventeen years ago)
New Order 'True Faith'
― Cittaslow Mazza (blueski), Sunday, 26 October 2008 13:54 (seventeen years ago)
Buggles - "Video Killed The Radio Star"
― snoball, Sunday, 26 October 2008 13:57 (seventeen years ago)
This whole thread makes no sense if you grew up without MTV and never actually saw any of these music videos.
― post-apocalyptic time jazz (Masonic Boom), Sunday, 26 October 2008 14:06 (seventeen years ago)
Duran Duran's "Rio" is the first music video I can remember, and is inextricably linked to its ultra-cheesy video in my mind:
― Neil S, Sunday, 26 October 2008 14:09 (seventeen years ago)
i've never heard anyone mention that johnny cash nine inch nails cover without the suffix of OMG THE VIDEO TOO SO SAD HES REALLY OLD.
― schlump, Sunday, 26 October 2008 14:13 (seventeen years ago)
Til' Tuesday: Voices Carry
― kornrulez6969, Sunday, 26 October 2008 17:52 (seventeen years ago)
It's harder for me to think of early 80s songs that AREN'T inseparable from their videos. Besides all the punk stuff I got into way later.
Right now, I'm trying to think of one that doesn't immediately bring to mind some image from a video. "The Break-up Song" by Greg Kihn is the only one for me. Ha, "King of Pain" could be another.
Otherwise, to answer this thread's question, any Duran Duran Nena Culture Club etc.
― ☑ (Pleasant Plains), Sunday, 26 October 2008 18:16 (seventeen years ago)
Losing My Religion
― Pillbox, Sunday, 26 October 2008 18:26 (seventeen years ago)
I suddenly get this thread!
The answer is - November Rain by Guns N Roses.
Even though I'd heard the song years earlier on a bootleg a friend made at an early NYC club gig, it is totally inseparable from that video, the guitar outside the church, standing on a piano, on a cliff... etc. etc. (even though YouTube has shown my memory to be wrong.)
― post-apocalyptic time jazz (Masonic Boom), Tuesday, 28 October 2008 09:44 (seventeen years ago)
Most Cure singles from Let's Go To Bed onward.
― MaresNest, Tuesday, 28 October 2008 12:54 (seventeen years ago)
oh and Men Without bleedin Hats
― MaresNest, Tuesday, 28 October 2008 12:55 (seventeen years ago)
"that dance wasn't as safe as they said it was"
― Neil S, Tuesday, 28 October 2008 13:06 (seventeen years ago)
can any older ilXors describe hearing this song in 1983, before the video?
Well, Thriller itself had already sold like 10 million copies before the title video's Historic! World! Premiere!, and as noted, it was the sixth single. So I was already overly familiar with the song and really don't associate it with the video at all. Especially since that video was an overhyped, overblown non-event. The FX were unimpressive to anyone who'd already seen "An American Werewolf In London", the choreography was likewise recycled from "Beat It". And the story & dialogue & acting were forgettable. Underwhelming in every way.
(Now, "Jazzin' For Blue Jean": that's a solid piece of sustained entertainment.(
― Myonga Vön Bontee, Tuesday, 28 October 2008 14:15 (seventeen years ago)
Lionel Richie - "Hello"
― Black Seinfeld (HI DERE), Tuesday, 28 October 2008 14:18 (seventeen years ago)
OTM. I can't even recall right now how the song goes, but I'll never forget the video.
― Tuomas, Tuesday, 28 October 2008 14:19 (seventeen years ago)
http://www.ilxor.com/ILX/ThreadSelectedControllerServlet?action=showall&boardid=40&threadid=39365
― Black Seinfeld (HI DERE), Tuesday, 28 October 2008 14:23 (seventeen years ago)
Genesis - "Land of Confusion"
― ☑ (Pleasant Plains), Tuesday, 28 October 2008 14:33 (seventeen years ago)
Soundgarden - Black Hole Sun
― sonderangerbot, Tuesday, 28 October 2008 14:35 (seventeen years ago)
can't remember whose song it was but there was a tune in the early 80s called Lawn Chairs, and it came with this cute vid of animated.... er lawnchairs
― Dr X O'Skeleton, Tuesday, 28 October 2008 14:43 (seventeen years ago)
Prefab Sprout - "The King of Rock'n'Roll"
― snoball, Tuesday, 28 October 2008 14:44 (seventeen years ago)
Big Time -- Peter GabrielFashion -- David BowieKarma Chameleon -- Culture Club"Sweet Dreams (Are Made of This)" -- Eurythmics"Material Girl" -- Madonna
― mottdeterre, Tuesday, 28 October 2008 15:03 (seventeen years ago)
"Sabotage" by the Beastie Boys.
Serious, I hear that song come on in the car and from there on out, it's all WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAOOOOOW!
― ☑ (Pleasant Plains), Tuesday, 28 October 2008 15:34 (seventeen years ago)
"You Might Think," the Cars.
"Money for Nothing," Dire Straits.
"Every Breath You Take," the Police.
― novamax, Tuesday, 28 October 2008 16:47 (seventeen years ago)
"Girls Just Wanna Have Fun," Cyndi Lauper
― novamax, Tuesday, 28 October 2008 16:48 (seventeen years ago)
Kate Bush - "Wuthering Heights" and "Babooshka"
― snoball, Tuesday, 28 October 2008 16:59 (seventeen years ago)
"I'm still standing" - Elton John"Cloudbusting" - Kate Bush
― Cool Hand Tiller (onimo), Tuesday, 28 October 2008 17:00 (seventeen years ago)
John Fogerty-"The Old Man Down The Road"
― The Wild Shirtless Lyrics of Mark Farner (C. Grisso/McCain), Tuesday, 28 October 2008 17:03 (seventeen years ago)
"When Doves Cry" - Prince
― Holdtransferanswerspeaker Featurerecallconfredail (Mackro Mackro), Tuesday, 28 October 2008 17:04 (seventeen years ago)
Talking Heads- "Once in a Lifetime" Aphex Twin- "Come to Daddy"
― lou, Tuesday, 28 October 2008 17:11 (seventeen years ago)
Robert Palmer - "Addicted to love"Bjork - "It's oh so quiet"Daft Punk - "Da Funk" and "Around the world"
― LeRooLeRoo, Tuesday, 28 October 2008 17:35 (seventeen years ago)
faith no more, 'epic'
― the sir weeze, Tuesday, 28 October 2008 18:06 (seventeen years ago)
A more interesting question, maybe, would be "why does this happen?" A lot of times it seems like an admitted personal subjective experience thing - "first video I saw" etc. But there are others where song and video really do seem to fuse into a single thing where one needs the other to complete it - "Sabotage," whatever its actual contents, somehow makes sense as the theme for a 70s cop show. What makes that work?
― Doctor Casino, Tuesday, 28 October 2008 18:13 (seventeen years ago)
(Great thread btw!)
― Doctor Casino, Tuesday, 28 October 2008 18:14 (seventeen years ago)
another Kate Bush video - "There Goes A Tenner"
― snoball, Tuesday, 28 October 2008 18:20 (seventeen years ago)
I've only seen one Kate Bush video and it's the one where she just dances around during the longest fade-out in the world.
― ☑ (Pleasant Plains), Tuesday, 28 October 2008 18:39 (seventeen years ago)
ABC's Look of Love. Best music video ever?!
― rjberry, Wednesday, 29 October 2008 16:28 (seventeen years ago)
I agree with only about half of these songs mentioned above..butSpin Doctors - Pretty BabySmashing Pumpkins - 1979, Tonight, Tonight
― ❤ⓛⓞⓥⓔ❤ (CaptainLorax), Wednesday, 29 October 2008 18:32 (seventeen years ago)
oops I mean del amitri - roll to me (not pretty baby)
― ❤ⓛⓞⓥⓔ❤ (CaptainLorax), Wednesday, 29 October 2008 18:36 (seventeen years ago)
meatloaf - I'd do anything for love
― ❤ⓛⓞⓥⓔ❤ (CaptainLorax), Wednesday, 29 October 2008 18:40 (seventeen years ago)
windowlickerI mean not to make this just a list thread for good music videos but yeahthat one part with the champagne flying everywhere is pretty linked to that kind of sound of me
― cool app (uh oh I'm having a fantasy), Wednesday, 29 October 2008 18:41 (seventeen years ago)
*for
― cool app (uh oh I'm having a fantasy), Wednesday, 29 October 2008 18:42 (seventeen years ago)
Is it possible to add a "songs we like" clause to this thread? I've been kinda proud of this thread for sticking to that without having to. Because I could mention some video by Bumblebeez 81 where the song is total ass, yet the song is permanently attached to the video in my mind nonetheless.
― Holdtransferanswerspeaker Featurerecallconfredail (Mackro Mackro), Wednesday, 29 October 2008 18:47 (seventeen years ago)
Baby One More Time been mentioned yet?
― chap, Wednesday, 29 October 2008 18:50 (seventeen years ago)
Hobo Humping Slobo Babe is what came to mind for me. Also Money for Nothing, but it's been said.
― skeletal lexing (Finefinemusic), Wednesday, 29 October 2008 18:58 (seventeen years ago)
"Your Mother Should Know", The Beatles <<< I don't like this song, or the video.
― snoball, Wednesday, 29 October 2008 19:02 (seventeen years ago)
black hole sun
― cool app (uh oh I'm having a fantasy), Wednesday, 29 October 2008 19:45 (seventeen years ago)
probably most of the bevis and butthead music vids
― cool app (uh oh I'm having a fantasy), Wednesday, 29 October 2008 19:46 (seventeen years ago)
that song with the girl dressed like a bee.
The Go-Gos - Our Lips Are Sealed
Springsteen - Philadelphia
― that's not my post, Thursday, 30 October 2008 05:22 (seventeen years ago)
"that song with the girl dressed like a bee" Yup, Blind Melon - "No Rain" -- first one I thought of when I read the thread title!
― Paul in Santa Cruz, Thursday, 30 October 2008 05:28 (seventeen years ago)
A more interesting question, maybe, would be "why does this happen?" A lot of times it seems like an admitted personal subjective experience thing - "first video I saw" etc. But there are others where song and video really do seem to fuse into a single thing where one needs the other to complete it - "Sabotage," whatever its actual contents, somehow makes sense as the theme for a 70s cop show. What makes that work?― Doctor Casino, Tuesday, October 28, 2008 2:13 PM (2 days ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink
― Doctor Casino, Tuesday, October 28, 2008 2:13 PM (2 days ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink
This is sort of where I was trying to go with this. Less about what's inseparable for YOU and more about song/video combos that would be inseparable for MOST PEOPLE.
I think "Thriller" and "Take On Me" are the two best examples.
But "Sabotage," "She Blinded Me With Science," "Three Little Pigs," "Voices Carry," "Hello," "Land Of Confusion" and "Hurt" are all great examples too.
"Fish Heads" too now that I think of it.
I think it's a combination of three things1. A video with a unique look and stark, memorable imagery (duh)2. A song that isn't really played in other places BESIDES the videos --like the radio and party DJs and whatever usually choose "Beat It" or "Billie Jean" or "PYT" over "Thriller." And where else were you gonna hear"Three Little Pigs?" 3. Lyrical content that either works DIRECTLY with the video ("Hurt," "Blinded Me With Science") or creates its own visual language ("Sabotage")
― Whiney G. Torture Garden (Whiney G. Weingarten), Thursday, 30 October 2008 05:39 (seventeen years ago)