Taking Sides: Fun Lovin' Criminals vs. Pulp

Stick 'em up punk, it's... Jarvis Cocker's bare butt.

Pulp of course.

um?

Is Pulp nowadays a 'guilty pleasure'? Has a band/person fallen so far off the critical ladder without contributing to the 'reduction' (much)?

Still, way to pick a poll they 'should' win...

i don't want this to look like Brit snobbishness, because it's unfair to pit a one-trick US joke band against probably the wittiest, original and charming british band of the 90s. i've nothing against the crims at all. it's just not a fair contest.

I'd much rather listen to FLC than Pulp. But that's because I'd much rather listen to the sound of my own entrails being roasted on a spit than listen to Pulp, really.

I'm not gonna vote, in the hope that FLC might win and we will thus have a valid excuse to purge ILM

take yr "purges" to TMI board, pls.

voted FLC obv

STICK EM UP PULP, ITS THE FUN LOVIN CRIMINALS

I'd much rather listen to the sound of my own entrails being roasted on a spit

aphex twin is taking notes

There has never been a worse band in the history of music than the Fun Lovin' Criminals so Pulp kind of win by default really.

There has never been a worse band in the history of music than Pulp so Fun Lovin' Criminals kind of win by default really.

FIXED

Fun Loving Criminals are a 'novelty' group.

Pulp are 'clever' band.

I like them both, but there's a big difference.

matt dc 100% otm

Number of FLC albums I own: 1
Number of Pulp albums I own: 0

Number of FLC singles I own: 1
Number of Pulp singles I own: 0

Pulp. By the biggest distance of any ILM poll ever.

xpost damnit Whiney

anyway I own about 15 Pulp CDs and simply have that one FLC song on a freebie compilation I got when I ordered a pizza.

hey, man, they had two songs.

"The Fun Lovin' Criminal" is a better song than "Common People", but I think Pulp might just edge it overall.

if pulp loses, can we ban polls?

i mean i know people like to vote contrarily just to be, well, contrary. but this is getting ridiculous.

relax kevin, let things happen as they will, the last laugh shall be ours

If Pulp loses, all threads will have to be polls.

I mean, I voted for FLC.

Not because they're better than Pulp, but because I like them better than Pulp.

i don't think either band is good but i definitely prefer FLC. plus FLC don't come w/sycophant fans trying to claim that pulp are the most important and most intelligent band in british music ever

setting up arguments against bands by strawmanning an exaggerated interpretation of things about 0.5% of their fans might have said in a moment of excitement is one of the most odious aspects of the popist war on sophistication

also we are considering berghain within the next few days, hold that thought there why dontcha

um, the best Pulp songs are the ones where they let go of "sophistication" and just jam out ("Common People" and "This Is Harcore" being my two main examples; when I think sophisticated Pulp, I think "Dishes" which immediately makes me want to stab).

I had a lot of trouble with the final word of that post; it had been "creativity", "indie", "guitar music", but in the end I plumped for a word that sums up music that does not head instinctively for the pop heart but plays with musical and emotional levels. Even those two songs you mention certainly do this; neither is straightforward, and both (especially This Is Hardcore) are revered for their progression, their emotional journey as much as their sparkle. TIH is extremely sophisticated!

setting up arguments against bands by strawmanning an exaggerated interpretation of things about 0.5% of their fans might have said in a moment of excitement is one of the most odious aspects of the popist war on sophistication

you're such an elitist! ;)

i don't even get het up by arcade fire fans these days, tolerance for all predilections

the popist war on sophistication

Now, there's a book title for you. To be written by the Al Gore of music journalism, whoever that may be.

bet you roger kimball doesn't like flc either

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the audacity of poll

Damnit. When I started this poll, I thought the inhabitants of ILM could find it within themselves to embrace change and hope, but the results show they've fallen back on the old provincial fears and prejudices.

hope is a good thing, but pulp is a better thing