TS: Prince and Paul Simon

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Who would win in fisticuffs between these 5'2" songwriting giants? How much would you pay to see these pint-sized pugilists punch each others' lights out? Will the "the Boxer" make the Minneapolis, Minnesota-based multi-instrumentalist go "face down"? YOUR PUNS NOW!

Pantheism F. Mohair (res), Saturday, 1 November 2008 16:36 (sixteen years ago)

um, no puns, all Prince...

^ban with extreme prejudice (Drugs A. Money), Saturday, 1 November 2008 16:46 (sixteen years ago)

what's with all the Batman v Superman shit on ILM all of a sudden?

I know, right?, Saturday, 1 November 2008 16:47 (sixteen years ago)

just surprised its not a poll

I know, right?, Saturday, 1 November 2008 16:47 (sixteen years ago)

I considered running a poll, but decided that we don't have a large enough sample size of respondents with specialized knowledge of musical pugilism to ensure statistical accuracy.

Pantheism F. Mohair (res), Saturday, 1 November 2008 17:15 (sixteen years ago)

maybe we should get thom yorke in on this too

Pantheism F. Mohair (res), Saturday, 1 November 2008 21:29 (sixteen years ago)

Prince can probably cover "Hazy Shade of Winter" even better than the Bangles did, and I can imagine a "Sometimes It Snows in April"-esque version of "Hearts and Bones," so he wins.

Alfred, Lord Sotosyn, Saturday, 1 November 2008 21:49 (sixteen years ago)

love'em both, though. I'm more interested in a discussion of Simon's guitar skillz, which remain mad underrated.

Alfred, Lord Sotosyn, Saturday, 1 November 2008 21:49 (sixteen years ago)

Yes, they are both connected by the Bangles, aren't they? "Manic Monday" and "Hazy Shade of Winter."

But yeah, Paul Simon's guitar work is quite remarkable; even during the Simon and Garfunkel days, he's uses a lot of great, underused chords, and he has a very pleasing style that somehow embodies folk and virtuosity simultaneously, without being overly either. Very nice to listen to.

Pantheism F. Mohair (res), Saturday, 1 November 2008 21:58 (sixteen years ago)

All of what you're saying is irrelevant. Prince is a feisty bastard who fights dirty.

I know, right?, Sunday, 2 November 2008 01:10 (sixteen years ago)

Well yeh, he's got a dirty mind.

Pantheism F. Mohair (res), Sunday, 2 November 2008 01:29 (sixteen years ago)

I look at this from the perspective of the soft underbelly. Once they passed their prime, Simon could only put out a bad album every three to five years, whereas Prince still seems to have a bottomless well (and his live shows remain legendary). So Prince, sorry.

mitya, Sunday, 2 November 2008 02:23 (sixteen years ago)

id be surprised if prince doesnt run away with this but i dig both a whole lot

deej, Sunday, 2 November 2008 02:30 (sixteen years ago)

Once they passed their prime, Simon could only put out a bad album every three to five years, whereas Prince still seems to have a bottomless well (and his live shows remain legendary). So Prince, sorry.

Wait, so having a bottomless well of bad albums is better than having a limited one?

Pantheism F. Mohair (res), Sunday, 2 November 2008 06:04 (sixteen years ago)

Once Prince started releasing albums, I would say it is him. Although "Hearts And Bones" was fantastic.

Paul Simon released material in the 70s, and with Art Garfunkel in the 60s, that may be even better than Prince at his best though.

Geir Hongro, Sunday, 2 November 2008 17:10 (sixteen years ago)

Yes, they are both connected by the Bangles, aren't they? "Manic Monday" and "Hazy Shade of Winter."

The connection may be a bit pressed, as Prince did actually give "Manic Monday" to The Beatles whereas "Hazy Shade Of Winter" was a cover version of an old well-known Simon & Garfunkel song.

Geir Hongro, Sunday, 2 November 2008 17:11 (sixteen years ago)

As Prince did actually give "Manic Monday" to The Bangles, I mean. :)

Geir Hongro, Sunday, 2 November 2008 17:12 (sixteen years ago)

Freudian Slip

Tape Store, Sunday, 2 November 2008 17:14 (sixteen years ago)

also Prince is probably the right answer, but I'm voting for PAUL SIMON (mostly for S&G)

Tape Store, Sunday, 2 November 2008 17:16 (sixteen years ago)

Prince because of affirmative action

Pantheism F. Mohair (res), Tuesday, 4 November 2008 01:41 (sixteen years ago)

um, I haven't heard enough Paul Simon to really be able to discuss this intelligently (I know, I know, when has that stopped me before?) Graceland is Paul Simon's best, isn't it?

Here's as good a place as any, though, to loudly proclaim that Phish's Bouncing Round the Room is probably the greatest song Paul Simon never wrote.

^ban with extreme prejudice (Drugs A. Money), Tuesday, 4 November 2008 04:08 (sixteen years ago)

Graceland is a great album, no doubt. But then, he's had some amazing high points with S&G for sure, and in fact, S&G may be more canonical and important than Graceland ultimately. But Graceland really is incredible.

Pantheism F. Mohair (res), Tuesday, 4 November 2008 04:10 (sixteen years ago)

Paul Simon peaked with "Hearts And Bones". Did a lot of fantastic stuff before that one, alone and with Simon & Garfunkel. After it, he has kind of lost it as a songwriter.

Geir Hongro, Tuesday, 4 November 2008 09:38 (sixteen years ago)


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