Not necessarily for the better...
Wire, I think, are the prime example of this. The development between Live at the Roxy and 154/Chairs missing was phenominal. Other examples of this are The Fall. Live at the Witch trials to hex Enduction Hour in little over 3 years and, of Course, the Beatles. I wanna Hold your Hand to Strawberry field in less than 4 years.
Any others?
― Sven Hassel Schmuck, Thursday, 13 November 2008 15:51 (seventeen years ago)
Siouxsie went from punky versions of the Batman theme eto Suburban Relapse in what, 6 months?
And ol' Poly Styrene from "Silly Billy" to "Oh Bondage up yours" in 5.
― Mark G, Thursday, 13 November 2008 15:53 (seventeen years ago)
erstwhile noo-wavers Talk Talk, 4 years to Colour Of Spring, 6 years to Spirit of Eden...
― henry s, Thursday, 13 November 2008 15:57 (seventeen years ago)
I imagine there were plenty of 60's bands who went from some varient of merseybeat to peace and love in a pretty short space of time. Likewise, plenty of early punks that were doing the progressive/heavy thing just months before. I remember reading something about Slaughter and the dogs being a hippy group until early 76. The Jam and the Stranglers had a similar wiggy past also, The Boomtown Rats., but that's nor really what I mean.
X-Ray Spex definitely fits the bill...could have been one of the greatest bands of the 80's if line up changes/menal illness had not curtailed their development.
― Sven Hassel Schmuck, Thursday, 13 November 2008 15:59 (seventeen years ago)
this thread is based on a false premise
― metametadata (n/a), Thursday, 13 November 2008 16:00 (seventeen years ago)
it has a shaky foundation
― metametadata (n/a), Thursday, 13 November 2008 16:01 (seventeen years ago)
allowing only lightweight, facile comments to be added
and swings.
http://www.ehponline.org/members/2003/111-13/swings.jpg
― Mark G, Thursday, 13 November 2008 16:18 (seventeen years ago)
Sorry, I meant Zings.
The Who - the progression from "A Quick One" through "Sell Out" to "Tommy" is staggering.
― snoball, Thursday, 13 November 2008 16:30 (seventeen years ago)
Even more so because every member of the band was improving at a phenomenal rate, there was no-one lagging behind.
― snoball, Thursday, 13 November 2008 16:31 (seventeen years ago)
Boo Radleys: Everything's Alright Forever (1992), Giant Steps (1993)
― Sugar hiccup, Makes a pig soar and swoon (Pillbox), Thursday, 13 November 2008 16:32 (seventeen years ago)
Other examples of this are The Fall.
Depends what you mean by "progress".
Throbbing Gristle.
― Ich Ber ein Binliner (Tom D.), Thursday, 13 November 2008 16:35 (seventeen years ago)
"Change" rather than "progess" might have been a better bet
― Ich Ber ein Binliner (Tom D.), Thursday, 13 November 2008 16:36 (seventeen years ago)
Yes -- the question doesn't really make sense. Is there a distinction between progression and completely changing genres/styles? If not, then I nominate Alanis Morissette (four years between "Alanis" and "Jagged Little Pill").
― NoTimeBeforeTime, Thursday, 13 November 2008 16:44 (seventeen years ago)
NIN? Pretty Hate Machine to Downward Spiral in five years.
― chap, Thursday, 13 November 2008 16:46 (seventeen years ago)
Ha...I was going to say the Who also, but from "I'm the Face" to "Anyway, Anyhow, Anywhere" (in less than a year).
― Sara Sara Sara, Thursday, 13 November 2008 16:47 (seventeen years ago)
Talk Talk were great from the start, though
― Funky Buddha Lounge (Curt1s Stephens), Thursday, 13 November 2008 16:58 (seventeen years ago)
Stereolab: four years between Transient Random Noise-Bursts (1993) and Dots and Loops (1997).
― jaymc, Thursday, 13 November 2008 17:03 (seventeen years ago)
And so were the Fall and Wire etc etc
― Ich Ber ein Binliner (Tom D.), Thursday, 13 November 2008 17:03 (seventeen years ago)
Public Enemy
Between 1987 album Bum Rush, and Rebel (a later recorded Bum Rush b side), to Bring the Noise ending 1987 on Less than Zero sdtk, they came to full prominence in months.
― L@OO@K WHOS AWAKE NOW (PappaWheelie V), Thursday, 13 November 2008 17:18 (seventeen years ago)
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Musically from bouncy pop/punk to dense, gnarly, knotty, sparawling brilliance.Lyrically from sub Philip K Dick imagery and an almost childish obsession with drugs to something that is indescribably dense, and powerful.
― Sven Hassel Schmuck, Thursday, 13 November 2008 17:19 (seventeen years ago)
Um, sprawling.
― Sven Hassel Schmuck, Thursday, 13 November 2008 17:24 (seventeen years ago)
A lot of us prefer "Live at the Witch Trials" to "Hex Enduction Hour"!
― Ich Ber ein Binliner (Tom D.), Thursday, 13 November 2008 17:30 (seventeen years ago)
progress can only be measured with the protractor of history
― metametadata (n/a), Thursday, 13 November 2008 17:31 (seventeen years ago)
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I do sometimes, but that doesn't stop the line of albums from Witch Trials through to Hex being a hue progression.
I'm not saying necessarily for the better (as stated in my opening post)
― Sven Hassel Schmuck, Thursday, 13 November 2008 17:57 (seventeen years ago)
(xpost) the flexicurve of the future...
― snoball, Thursday, 13 November 2008 18:00 (seventeen years ago)
The Boredoms? From tape noise bursts to classic rock in a blender to cosmic electronic tribal post music? How about the Notwist or Black Dice or other bands that dropped hardcore for other stuff?
― filthy dylan, Thursday, 13 November 2008 18:08 (seventeen years ago)
Boredoms is spot on.
The noise stuff is my favourite but no one could deny that they are a band that have progressed an incredible amount.
― Sven Hassel Schmuck, Thursday, 13 November 2008 18:11 (seventeen years ago)
ok comp to kid a was kinda drastic, no?obvious i know
― Kevin Keller, Thursday, 13 November 2008 18:20 (seventeen years ago)
Bends to OK Comp was quite a leap as well, albeit a leap in the direction they were already travelling.
― chap, Thursday, 13 November 2008 18:21 (seventeen years ago)
The Monkees
― bendy, Thursday, 13 November 2008 18:23 (seventeen years ago)
My Bloody Valentine - This Is... to You Made Me Realise in three-and-a-half years.
― Gavin in Leeds, Thursday, 13 November 2008 18:27 (seventeen years ago)
yeah, and xp re:RH yeah
― Kevin Keller, Thursday, 13 November 2008 18:28 (seventeen years ago)
The Stone Roses went from So Young to Fool's Gold in four. Manic Street Preachers reached The Holy Bible in, what, three years? And then onto Everything Must Go in five. The Smiths reached The Queen Is Dead in three (the progression here being in terms of structure and economy, rather than all-round improvement).
There's really no-one to touch the Beatles though.
― Ismael Klata, Thursday, 13 November 2008 19:05 (seventeen years ago)
Amy Winehouse
― Ismael Klata, Thursday, 13 November 2008 19:19 (seventeen years ago)
Moody Blues. From raw and rootsy R&B to symphonic rock concept albums in four years.
― Geir Hongro, Thursday, 13 November 2008 23:19 (seventeen years ago)
The Jam and the Stranglers had a similar wiggy past also
The Stranglers never really left it behind. Even at their most "punky", there was always something slightly "arty" about The Stranglers.
― Geir Hongro, Thursday, 13 November 2008 23:20 (seventeen years ago)
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i could
― metametadata (n/a), Thursday, 13 November 2008 23:22 (seventeen years ago)
Weezer. After Matt Sharp left the band, their transformation from my adolescent heroes into horrible banal radio rock was like a freefall.
― Adam Bruneau, Thursday, 13 November 2008 23:33 (seventeen years ago)
oops. "progressed" nvmd
― Adam Bruneau, Thursday, 13 November 2008 23:34 (seventeen years ago)
Ween from GodWeenSatan (1990) to Chocolate and Cheese (1994)The Flaming Lips from Telepathic Surgery (1989) to Hit to Death in the Future Head (1992)Radiohead from Pablo Honey (1993) to The Bends (1995)Blur from Leisure (1991) to Modern Life is Rubbish (1993)
― Mr. Snrub, Thursday, 13 November 2008 23:58 (seventeen years ago)
god i hate ilm so much
― metametadata (n/a), Thursday, 13 November 2008 23:59 (seventeen years ago)
Genesis. No, really. I can't really think of any group that progressed more quickly, save perhaps maybe Wire.
Absolutely ridiculously fast development, only 6 months between the crap sub-Bee Gees of From Genesis To Revelation to the full-fledged prog of Trespass. And the only difference between the two is the drummer (an anonymous pre-Collins guy who didn't write or arrange and was sacked soon afterwards).
Seriously, it's almost difficult to believe that it's the same band. Even Peter Gabriel's vocals sound much different.
― esotericCD, Friday, 14 November 2008 00:17 (seventeen years ago)
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If you stopped being such a pompous arse, you might start liking it a bit more.
― Sven Hassel Schmuck, Friday, 14 November 2008 17:41 (seventeen years ago)
God I hate sticking my hand in this fire
― Ich Ber ein Binliner (Tom D.), Friday, 14 November 2008 17:42 (seventeen years ago)