taking sides green day vs. blink-182

so hard but i'm going with blink

this is impossible dude

lol when i did slam "basket case" was my entrance music

on youtube there used to be video of me leading a singalong for the whole bar

Longview remains solid

"carousel" is a great song. so i'm going with blink

I've got a lot of attachment to Green Day for Dookie but I almost never put on Nimrod or Warning and god knows the only thing I ever played more than once on American Idiot was the title track.

Blink never made a record as good as Dookie but their singles were better and their highs were higher. Gotta go with the naked dudes.

blink greatest hits > green day greatest hits, but both are the only albums you'll ever need

Pretty much obviously Green Day. "Basket Case" and "Boulevard Of Broken Dreams" are both great songs.

Yeah I was trying to work out if I thought Blink Hits > Dookie but I think they're on equal footing, which is biiiiiig ups for Blink in my mind what with Dookie on the pedestal etc

jordan completely otm

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here is what i've done tonight:

drank beer while playing poker w/ best bros while listening to international superhits! and enema of the state :D

dudes, Green Day by a longview.

I WANT TO BE THE MINORITY!

Green Day were infinitely more attractive than Blink-182. so again, my vote is right.

i could live without ever hearing either one of this bands ever, again.

Green Day is the answer but ILM will probably pick the other.

my answer is guided, though, by the fact that i got into Green Day in 93, and by the time Blink-182 got big, i was listening to crust-punk and anarchist shit and couldn't be bothered. the only Blink thing i ever owned was a shoplifted cassingle of 'Small Things.'

i love both of these bands

Both have great singles and fun early albums so...

Blink's shit, last serious album with Robert Smith > Green Day's shit, last serious album with singles with U2.

Am I just paranoid, ay uh uh und

Green Day is far less annoying and far more catchy. Also, you try going to high school with people who thought Blink-182 were the wittest people on earth because did you see what they were doing there in the music video for "All The Small Things"? But they almost made you think - "Adam's Song" was like, so sad.

Give all my things to all my friends
You'll never set foot in my room again
You'll close it off, board it up
Remember the time that I spilled the cup
Of apple juice in the hall
Please tell mom this is not her fault

Oops, really needs a line break after "juice" to emphasize how badly that scans. Not a terrible song IMO, but they really should have worked that through one more time.

In general it's a tough comparison b/c there's a generational thing going on here - Blink-182 had absorbed and reprocessed those Green Day singles and were able to come out swinging with a compressed, poppier, punchier version of it. So I'll take "All the Small Things" over "Basketcase" and "Josie" over "Walking Contradiction" (maybe) - but Blink just starts running out of hits with which to compete. Burn the serious, droopy efforts from both bands ("Stay Together For The Kids" is just as godawful as "Boulevard") and Green Day still just has a more robust catalogue. All of Dookie plus selected items before and after, they've got it in the bag. I mean, "2,000 Light Years Away" - come on!

GREEN DAY SINGLES POLL
WORST Single By Green Day or the Offspring

Good discussion here

this is impossible dude

green day always remind me of my middle aged english teacher who borrowed a tape of "dookie" off my mate to listen to on a coach trip and said "they're a bit like the jam only with ruder lyrics..."

Both bands conjure up images, sounds, concepts and attitudes that seem contrived and dated in 2008.

Year of sophistication that it is

PS Green Day by a million miles

I never thought I'd see the point where the stigmas against blink182 (and GD to a lesser extent) had vanished. At least not this soon.

i love green day and only know blink's singles, so it's gd easy for me. i like all the green day albums from dookie to warning. american idiot is sort of blah, but it made them a bazillion (more) dollars, so whatever. they're one of the best live bands i've seen in the last decade or so.

(both times i saw them they did their shtick of recruiting kids out of the audience -- "ok, who can play guitar? i mean really actually play?" -- to come up and do a song. it's a hokey shtick, but really sweet too. i got the feeling that they really liked their crowds, had affection for them, more than most people.)

green day in a walk.

am i the only on who thinks Kerplunk! is way better than dookie?

also, i will rep all day for american idiot, esp. that big long mall punk "quick one while he's away" joint. that was awesome.

do love about 4 blink songs, and barker is a great drummer.

that big long mall punk "quick one while he's away" joint. that was awesome.

def. the highlight of the album.

fuck now i'm regretting my vote

don't worry hoos, green day was slated to win regardless

i just put warning on this morning and fuck its really really good

i probably wasn't ready for it at 14

wtf this is green day, who are you kids?

lol u old

what are those 4 blink songs?

the one where they are like playing in a house that's falling apart or on fire, i think it's about child abuse or something

dammit (?), the one where they are rambunctious in a movie theater

all the small things

what's my age again

also forgot "rock show" which is also awesome.

also, i saw them once at an xbox party and they were pretty fun live i thought.

dammit is great, love whats my age again too.
i still think "carousel" is their best song though

"What's My Age Again" and "All The Small Things" are really really essential listening, probably the best rock songs on the radio that year.

"Rock Show," "Josie," and "Pathetic" are pretty darn good pop-punk... not much to say about them except that they're good and kinda sweet.

"Man Overboard" starts to go off in a little more of an arena direction but basically still works. "I Miss You" (the loopy spooky one) is kind of great if read as a halfway-ironic send up of the "we have to become dark and mature" move...I mean they have the guy with the whiny voice carrying on about spiders for god's sake, and the other guy is namechecking "Nightmare Before Christmas!"

"Dammit" kinda got on my nerves after a while tbh.

This poll really needed to include Sum-41, as the flagship band of the third generation that followed a couple years in the wake of Blink. I'll rep for "In Too Deep" and "Makes No Difference!"

I was way too humourless and serious as a teenager to enjoy this shit

I feel sort of the opposite of everyone here. I didn't really mind Blink 182 so much at the time and in fact liked singles but going back and watching them on Youtube I am completely embarrassed. They just look like frat dudes making annoying songs when they set their red cups down. They're really catchy but I don't really feel pumped about them or want to dance or bang my head to them. All I can do is quietly acknowledge their catchiness. Green Day on the other hand still totally hold up. That Jam comparison someone made earlier was dead on.

I was way too humourless and serious as a teenager to enjoy this shit

― I know, right?, Monday, November 17, 2008 1:35 AM (3 minutes ago) Bookmark

Yeah that's why instinct said Green Day but then I went back and listened to all those early Blink singles (and the humorless and serious last Blink album, which I predictably loved at the time) and realized how great they were to begin with.

also, that singing these bands do, does it have a name? Blink 182 had that miss you song and the first guy sings and its bland but its find and then the second guy comes in and its really really horrible.

They just look like frat dudes making annoying songs when they set their red cups down.

I'm taking that "red cups" line from you.

that's why i said in part

they also opened the main stage for half of lollapalooza 94

and they got those plum touring gigs because they were a big breakthrough band with multiple radio hits by that point.

Anyone else notice we're comparing Dookie to Enema without a trace of irony?

You guys have inspired to spin Kerplunk!, which I haven't since high school. It's just a super good pop albums filled with great tunes and hooks and ENERGY.

As for the issue of content mentioned above. This is how I see it.

Green Day: classic teen angst, genuinely fretting about self, as well as the world around them.
Blink 182: apolitical pranksters who eat pizza play videos games all day long. they're fine so long as they have both these things.

no, they only had one big single - Longview hit #1 on June 11. Basket Case didn't get there until after Woodstock

Maybe there's a bit of SoCal vs. NorCal going on here.

Anyone else notice we're comparing Dookie to Enema without a trace of irony?

Fred Durst

they certainly aren't of the same time period nor do i think that they are contemporaries cuz w/o green day there's no way blink-182 exists in the same way that they do now

but i didn't start this thread because of time periods or anything like that. they're just two bands that i really loved in middle school and still love now

i remember seeing an old pre-fame Blink video on 120 Minutes that sounded like pop-punk Morrissey

How did "Welcome to Paradise" do as a single on initial release? We're getting down to minutia here, I realize - I'm just curious.

QN: Agreed about apolitical pranksters...but I think you may be giving Green Day a little much credit. There's some allusion to the problems outside oneself (the run-down neighborhood in "Welcome to Paradise," the vague empathy of "She"), but I'm not really sure that Dookie-era Green Day were as involved in the world around them as, say, Smash-era Offspring, who actually were talking about the environment and stuff.

Agreed. Green Day didn't become overtly political until American Idiot, really. However, I do hear much more angst in them than I do Blink. And that angst is definitely a product that East Bay scene, which was always tagged as a tad too serious and all too self-righteous.

More angst for sure - it's all over that record. Would also call that a zeitgeist thing, at least a little bit - I mean the early 90s versus the mid-to-late 90s in America, in pop, etc...

i just noticed that rancid hasn't been mentioned in this thread. now they have been.

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And there's some personal history there, too.

Billie Joe wasn't an Orange County-type punk. He had a fairly sketchy childhood.

Warning was not an apolitical record. And blink isn't completely apolitical, either.

rancid would be the apt contemporaries of green day (the deadly serious side the of the coin though).

Automatic thread bump. This poll is closing tomorrow.

These aren't really bands I expect to hear talked about on ILM, just sayin.

and youve been here how long

2yrs?

It is like when you realise that two of your friends that you never think of as having anything to do with each other are actually really good friends or related or something and its surprising first but then it isn't

Dookie is still my favorite album of 1994, which is my favorite music year.

Automatic thread bump. This poll's results are now in.

wow

u_u

v successful poll though!

indicative of early 90s--late 90s adolescence generation gap or just that lurkers love green day?

don't worry hoos, green day was slated to win regardless

― I'M JUGGLING MY BALLS HERE (PappaWheelie V), Sunday, November 16, 2008 5:29 PM (4 days ago) Bookmark

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ya i was super torn throughout this process boss

I do think this...

indicative of early 90s--late 90s adolescence generation gap

...but I tend to focus too much on that sometimes.

indicative of early 90s--late 90s adolescence generation gap or just that lurkers love green day?

― BIG HOOS enjoys a cold mindbeer (BIG HOOS aka the steendriver), Thursday, November 20, 2008 6:03 PM (2 minutes ago) Bookmark

probably

i mean im sure lots of the blink votes were Yung ILXors

yeah exactly

Advice to Blink 182 fans: don't be lonely now, and dry your crying eyes

Advice to Green Day fans: don't waste your time on me, you're already the voice inside moy yed.

Honestly, the Blink greatest hits doesn't look too bad, from the tracklist - it just has a few too many songs I don't happen to know. A disc comprised of Josie, Dammit, What's My Age Again, All The Small Things, Adam's Song, Man Overboard, The Rock Show, and I Miss You would be just about perfect although obviously a bit short. Couldn't do a better job of capturing that late-90s, early-2000s period where it wasn't really cool to like Blink-182, but they just kept putting out shit I liked. None of them are really all-time classics (although they've ended up on some year-end best-of lists) except maybe All The Small Things....but they're all basically enjoyable. I will say that "Man Overboard" is tremendously improved if you sing most of the lyrics as "Hello Major Tom / I'm not responding / turn your switches on / Not responding." I can't explain HOW or WHY my old roommate and I hit on that one, but it works.

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I still stand by all of this, I think. I really wish they would have taken up my Peter Schilling cover idea.

Dookie is still my favorite album of 1994, which is my favorite music year.

― billstevejim, Wednesday, November 19, 2008 9:12 PM (3 days ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

agreed on 94 being the year a lot of really great, now classic, records were released. agree to disagree on Dookie being among them.

i know that everything
i know that everything
i know that everything
everything's gonna be fine

Indicative that at one stage Green Day were kinda, sorta alright, whilst Blink 182 were arguably the culpable ones for ushering in a wave of 5th rate pop-punk bands.

well i guess this is growing up

i don't think i mentioned in here the large amount of great melodic bridges that blink has

"Adam's Song"

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― Tape Store, Sunday, November 16, 2008 6:24 AM (4 months ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

guys blink have plenty of good songs but "carousel" will always be their best

INSOMNIAC is their best

i don't think i mentioned in here the large amount of great melodic bridges that blink has

"it's the slow pretty part"

i'm no green day hater, but

i remember listening to radio DJs playing blink182 and saying,
"This song was from their jawbreaker period, now let's listen to something by them that's more green day"

I pretty much have disdain for Blink's entire catalog, but even with that said, I enjoy most of what Green Day has done, pretty much from Kerplunk through American Idiot (though I should be clear that I only like about 65-70% of that album). Hated the one after it, haven't heard "Unos"/"Dos"/"Tres".

But they had a solid run for a while there. It's just a shame Billie Joe is such a toolbag.

always thought it was interesting how BJA almost never played lead, it's all power chords, but the hooks in blink songs are arpeggios or riffs. obviously they're both (BJA & Hoppus/DeLonge) some of the best vocal melody writers of the last 30 years.