BEST guest rap on a non-rap song (A SERIOUS THREAD)

What is the BEST, TOTALLY RESPECTABLE, NON-AWFUL guest-rap on a non-rap song?

There's already 900 threads to go "lol Radio Song" or "lol Roll The Bones" or "lol MC Skat Kat" or "lol Lethal Bizzle (british interests) or the one I started that was all "lol Durst" so keep that to a minimum.

this is for finding the rare classics in this crowded field of duds

The only one I can think of right now is Tony M's rap on "My Name Is Prince" which is mostly good until the "Poseidon... Adventure" part. But he doesn't really count as a guest rapper because he was in the New Power Generation

I don't know how good they are, per se' but these always seemed functional enough to me:

Melle Mel in Chaka Khan's "I Feel For You"
Rakim in Jody Watley's "Friends"

clipse on justin timberlake "like i love you"

Chuck D on "Kool Thing" (but it's not even a whole verse)

q-tip on groove is in the heart

1m rnb songs

surely there are lots of rap/r&b crossover hits like the mary j. blige song with method man and mariah carey with ODB etc etc

Chuck D on "Kool Thing" (but it's not even a whole verse)

And it's barely a rap. And it sounds like some naive kids brought Chuck into the studio and said, "Hey, can you say, um, 'word' and other, like, rappy stuff like that?"

Yeah, maybe rnb should be left out to make this more interesting.

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BEST guest rap on a non-rap song by white folks (A SERIOUS THREAD)

Guest raps white people like

"Hey, can you say, um, 'word' and other, like, rappy stuff like that?"

lol 1989. The convergence of rap and college rock was still in its infancy.

baby steps.

there's an equally wide swath of shitty, awkward raps on R&B songs too, guys

but there's lots of good ones--so much so that it makes the thread not do what you want it to do

I think Q-Tip/Deee-Lite is the winner so far

Esp. because I still think of Mary J/Method Man as a rap song.

rakim/truth hurts - addictive

is there a thread for unnecessary rap verses/intros on otherwise great pop songs? "umbrella" hello

ghostface on 'back to black'

I think Q-Tip/Deee-Lite is the winner so far

— Whiney G. Weingarten, Monday, November 17, 2008 12:28 PM (1 hour ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

Ras Kass on The Little Children by David Axelrod.

I actually had no idea what David Axelrod was going to sound like when I got that album and that first track was ridiculously disorientating. Every element that came in kept me guessing: tense strings> electric bass> choir> trumpet and when Ras Kass ducked in I gave up trying to work out what I was listening to, but fuck its a great track and he makes it.

I guess this counts as an r'n'b tune, but Pharoahe Monch's guest verse is still pretty awesome.

I think Q-Tip/Deee-Lite is the winner so far

— Whiney G. Weingarten, Monday, November 17, 2008 12:28 PM (1 hour ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

― dmr, Monday, November 17, 2008 7:03 PM (2 hours ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

Speaking of Q-Tip and dance tunes, there's always this. Maybe it's not lyrically mind-blowing, but without his performance the tune would lose much.

the opening verses on Tender (Organized Konfusion Remix) - Attica Blues.