Post 9/11 Pop on Rest Of The World

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Notice that ill be talking with a latin america view, but i would like to know about other parts of the world (as continental europe, asia and africa)

Personally i think since the terrorist attacks american pop has declined and i think that can be noticed on the charts. None of the new things in america has catched here(as focus group ashanti and tweet), us rap never made a real impact(unlike own hits "diario de um detento" "us mano as mina" "sueños" "associacion argentina del hip-hop"). And for a long time every time i got the american charts on the paper i cant recognise half of the things.

But brits have grown in here a lot with gorillaz becomig huuuge, westlife taking nsyncs place as "the" foreign boyband and kylie minogue and sophie-ellis bextor getting some attention. And dance-acts outside the dance scene(groove armada, artful dodger, daft punk) besides a lot of trance and dnb in sao paulo.

Now the main part, while teen-pop foreign hits have been low, for the first time latin america is getting incredible teen-pop singles(klb "olhar 43" bandana "guapas" and "como puede ser" kelly key "baba" wanessa camargo "eu quero ser o seu amor" and lots of mexican and argentinian stuff i cant remember) even taking radio time from the usual forro/pagode normal. See two shakira breaking with the gringos and paulina rubio trying to do that too.

Final european note: Spain is doing grate too with ale sanz singing in the grammys with destinys child and estopa`s huge sucess

― Chupa-Cabras, Monday, 27 May 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

Oh my head and fingers hurt so much from this. Talk too about the american people getting more and more patriotic(with those not a hit anywhere else we are strong singles) and the governement dont giving a damn about the politics on the rest of the world

― Chupa-Cabras, Monday, 27 May 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

I agree 9/11 must have had some effect. All those fund raising and patriotic records *don't* translate to other cultures.

OTOH I was in Santa Catarina in January and "Afroman" was everywhere :-) This is a US single, right?

Do I want to know Brazilian teen pop? A Brazilian Westlife scares me.

― phil, Monday, 27 May 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

AFROMAN??!! Must be a gaucho thigie, because i didnt knew it had any sucess at all.

I would say klb would be the brasilian westlife, but they made a cover of new-wave hit olhar 43 and its fucking grate!! taking away anything that reminds westlife

― Chupa-Cabras, Monday, 27 May 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

precisely how are gorillaz british - dan the automator, tina weymouth, chris frantz, and del tha funkee homosapien are american, miho hatari is japanese/american, and kid koala is canadien.

― J Blount, Monday, 27 May 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

Who cares about anybody else in the band? Gorillaz is Damon Albarn and is british in the same way kylie is british

― Chupa-Cabras, Monday, 27 May 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

Chupa is right in terms of perception. The initial Gorillaz buzz in the States, at least around here, was more because of Damon's involvement than anything else.

― Ned Raggett, Monday, 27 May 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

I'd say Dan the Automator's involvement played as large a part in the selling of Gorillaz as Damon Albarn's (initial press might have used Albarn's photo, but the text read "from the man who brought you Handsome Boy Modeling School and Deltron 3030" and the phrase "Dan the Automator's Monkees" was bantered about). Addressing the music as opposed to the image (and recognising I am talking about Gorillaz here) the reason Gorillaz have now equaled the hit total (2) of Blur in the US with remarkably less effort and time is primarily due to "Clint Eastwood" and "19-2000" being American sounding, with all the hip-hop polyglot meltingpot meanings that implies, and Blur's music being decidedly Anglo. If Gorillaz are selling in Brazil, then that means at least one American act is selling in Brazil, which is one more act than Britain can manage in America, where the charts are decidedly crisis-invoking Britfree.

― J Blount, Monday, 27 May 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

I think j. blount has us on Gorillaz personel - far more US than UK.

But what about "sounds more US than UK?" I'm not sure. Who else in the US do they sound like? (I mean apart from Delatron :-) I wonder if the laid back, easy rap / guitar pop mixture isn't quite UK in style. I suspect if Gorillaz *had* been a US based and led project they'd sound like all the other Nu-Metal rap/rock crossovers.

Anyway the best mix of Clint Eastwood is the 2-step garage one with the ragga guy instead of Del.

― phil, Monday, 27 May 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

But then again, the visual image -- which seems to have been as much a reason for the success of the band as anything else -- was created by Jamie Hewlett, who has his own little Anglophile following as well (no, it's true). I think it might be most accurate to say that Gorillaz was able to be pitched at various audiences in various ways. All that said, I still think they're not very good, frankly...

― Ned Raggett, Monday, 27 May 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

word

― J Blount, Monday, 27 May 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

as for gorillaz its pretty clear it was selling on the concept and image of it, the music was pretty middle of the road, nothing unexpected or even particularly interesting...the power of marketing. which leads into why uk acts arent charting in the us. what makes you think it has anything to do with musicality and its inherent "flavour" whether american or anglo. i think its more the labels and a "buy american" standpoint. surely they could pick a few uk acts to push and chart if they really wanted to...

― becky, Tuesday, 28 May 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

I disagree that the music isn't very good.

Twice I've been in the pub and asked people behind the bar what they were playing, to discover it was Gorrilaz. The album is too boring, and I don't think I've listened all the way through more than once. But when they're good, they have something unusaual that stands out.

― phil, Tuesday, 28 May 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

OH MY GOD WHY YOU TRANSFORMED MY THREAD IN A THREAD ABOUT GORILLAZ!!!!!!!!!!!

― Chupa-Cabras, Tuesday, 28 May 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

Vengence is Mine!!!

― Jamie Hewlett, Tuesday, 28 May 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

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