What from the past year is the best bellwether of where music will be 10 years from now?

Inspired I guess by looking over year-end lists full of typically deferential picks. Is music going anywhere now?

Ten years ago the answer would have obviously been something along the lines of Roni Size's "New Forms", or whatever flavor of clubland beats + bass you prefer. After the past decade of hearing music vacillate, equivocate, and generally plunder the past, what I have in mind from contemporary styles would be something along the lines of the Lindstrøm album, but not quite as bland. The Hercules & Love Affair remix of Aeroplane's "Whispers", I guess.

how does music now sound like roni size ??

It doesn't, which means questions like these are impossible to answer unless your answer is "everything in the future will always be inspired by something from the '60s."

Hey what's going on in this thread?

I think 5 years would be a more easy forecast. The way trends work, in ten years time we'll be in the throws of a late-90s revival whatever that means.

What's also difficult with the ten-year forecast is that -8 and -9 years tend to be shaky predecessors of what's to come in the following decade, where '69 heralded the first glimpses of Hard Rock/Metal, '79 forecast New Pop with the PostPunk stuff, and '89 was all about setting the stage for HipHop and Dance in the early 90s.

Trends work in 5 and 20 year cycles, with huge dips in approval for what came ten years before. If you'd said to someone in 1995 that there'd be a huge 80s revival come the next decade they'd think you were mad. Images of bemulleted Sigue Sigue people with rolled up jackets and neon haircuts and cheesy FM synth sounds just wouldn't work to the 90s mind which has only recently discovered the awesomness of breakbeats and honest-blighty Britpop.

So to answer the question, in 2018 we'll be all about the shiny shirts and hairgel, Macy Gray, IDM and Post-Rock, Ibiza Trance and Garage.

2018 will the be all about Roni Size. Charming

Maybe a lil' Moby revival as well

Rap music will go. It will vanish and shrink. I needn't argue about that; I'm right, and I will be proved right. Wee is more popular than the Beatles now..

(sorry, just saving Geir some time)

Ten years ago the answer would have obviously been something along the lines of Roni Size's "New Forms"

This is totally accurate in as far as Roni Size put out a remake of New Forms this year.

There will always be more people weeing than listening to the Beatles. FACT

Apart from that Hollywood bowl gig, where it was 75%/25%..

Great thread.

What from the past year is the best bellwether of where music will be 10 years from now?

Hardly anything at all. 2008 has been unusually unremarkable, really. Of course you could mention some indiepop album, but indiepop has usually been done better in the past than now.

If there is something pointing forward, then it is the combination of indiepop and 80s influence that can be seen in recent works by The Killers and Cut Copy. But they are already very much at it today, and I doubt the trend will last for another 10 years.

One phenomenon that I believe will eventually have impact is the increased focus on the loudness war, and the protests against the compression on the recent Metallica album in particular. With this increased focus, I doubt that the loudness war will be going on for another 10 years. For instance, The Killers and Coldplay have already released 2008 albums that are considerably less compressed than their previous ones.

Chinese Democracy.

Chinese Democracy II: road to regime transition

― Geir Hongro (J0rdan S.), Friday, November 28, 2008 9:51 AM (3 hours ago)

― Geir Hongro, Friday, November 28, 2008 12:41 PM (51 minutes ago)

lol

how does music now sound like roni size ??

I meant to say that 10 years ago I would have guessed music in 2008 would be largely inspired by stuff like Roni Size. Chinese Democracy is obviously a much better reference point, though.

2008 has been unusually unremarkable

I think that's what's really getting to me.

A significant trend that I feel like has evolved over the past 10 years is the return of racial segregation in musical styles. I'm not sure why exactly that is, and I know that this is a touchy subject that has already been hashed out in multiple other threads, but it is something that I would like to see wither and die. Unfortunately there's not much indication of that happening in the near future.

West Coast Rock and Roll - The Entrance Band, The Growlers, Golden Animals - a return to rock and roll - steeped in the blues - heavy on low end psych-

Had a chance to interview Kanye a month ago and he was talkin' a lot about house music. I asked him 'bout it and he growing up in Chicago and the guy said he definitely would like to go into that direction sometime. He also said he wants to do RHCP covers in his next live act.

― elgolfo, Thursday, November 27, 2008 6:03 PM (Yesterday)

I guess Diddy already beat him to that one, didn't he? It's weird to me too how some of the more interesting DJ mixes I've heard recently will flit back and forth between disco and acid house with no apparent sense of disconnect. It can be slightly jarring but maybe it's something I'll have to get used to.

First of all, some general comments on trends:

I think that in ten years the megastar concept will be back, and many if not most of them will come from countries like China, Japan, India and Russia. I don't mean these non-American/non-British stars will be successful like TATU or MIA, I mean they will be globally popular on a Michael Jackson/ Elvis/ George Michael scale.

I also think that we'll have two opposing phenomena going on simultaneously: from one side, religious artists, like popstar priests (see Brazil's Padre Marcelo).

On the other hand, I strongly suspect that, disturbing as it sounds, female artists who openly explore sexuality-- think Britney, Samantha Fox or Sabrina Salerno-- will crossover into full-fledged popstar/pornstars careers (I mean literally, not some kind of "Sasha Fierce" alter ego). So I do think that Britney Spears will be enormously influential and iconic in ten years.

Brazilian-style favela funk and axe music will replace techno and such on huge open-air parties.

Finally, I think that novelty acts like Vampire Weekend (that is, harmless white pop spiced with some exotic stuff) will become a consistent model for one-hit wonder bands.

So, to answer the question: Vampire Weekend and Britney from the "If u Seek Amy" era.

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What from the past year is the best bedwetter of where music will be 10 years from now

Coldplay

This might be an interesting question if you could phrase it so it made sense.

What from the past year is the best bellend of where music will be 10 years from now?

A significant trend that I feel like has evolved over the past 10 years is the return of racial segregation in musical styles.

Sort of started already in the late 80s with "swing" producers such as Jam/Lewis and LA/Babyface introducing a sound that was considerably more rhythm oriented and less melodic than the typical Michael Jackson/Lionel Richie style of the early-to-mid 80s.

(Plus hip-hop starting to become really big at the same time)

Did that happen in Norway?

Did that happen in Norway?

"Walk This Way" and "Fight For Your Right" were both huge hits here.

Were there any norwegian rappers in the charts at the time? Or any sort of hip-hop scene?

yeah, nothing heralded the return of racial segregation to music more than walk this way and fight for your right to party

― Vision, Saturday, 29 November 2008 21:07 (Yesterday)

long joke, but what a punchline

lol @ the "If u Seek Amy" era.