Who Is To Blame For Soft Serve Space Age Rap?

Andre/internet tie.

Internet's to blame for it as an underground movement, 'dre is to blame for it being commercially viable.

voted Kanye in the original CB poll, might switch it up to Andre here.

a generation of misguided ppl thought a love below was better than speakerboxx

arent we all to blame, really

no way dude i listened to EPMD a couple days ago, i'm safe

actually on second thought I'm voting for Pharrell, he shepherded a lot of that BAPE shit in around the time his beats started getting all limp an dshitty

all of these xxl guys are really just a bunch of dudes trying to be lupe fiasco, who was brought to us by kanye so i''m voting kanye

yeah Charles Hamilton is like Lupe-is-a-hamburger bad idea jeans x10

“God is a woman and pink is the inside of a woman’s womb and that’s where life comes out of, so wearing pink is a way of showing respect to God,” Hamilton explained. And as for Sonic the Hedgehog, well sonic means ‘sound’ and hedgehogs bury themselves underground, so “I’m Sonic the Hedgehog because I bury myself into sound,” he said.

the thing about andre is that his move from parliament-type space age-ness and into the soft-serve fedora era also coincided w/ him ceasing to rap and become way less visible in pop culture and in the rap world

for this reason, i also voted kanye

streetwear blogs are to blame

xp i don't totally mind his music but god damn he needs to stfu

oh some dude said it first

yeah that's true, as big as Andre was at the height of his space shit, noone was really following his lead in '03. i think a lot of rappers still have in mind now when they pick up a guitar or sing a cheesy R&B hook or wear a sweater vest, though.

*have him in mind

we all need to stop wasting our energy blaming dudes and come together to develop techniques for enjoying these musics

50% Kanye, 50% Prince Be

maybe develop a new drug, mr. cr?m?

my brother loves this shit

andre's probably the only one who can actually sing.

speaking of which how much is cee-lo to blame?

maybe im craaaaaaaaazyyyyyy

i now regret my vote for andre because, shoulda voted pharell

whatever happened to rhymefest

hes being lazy

http://fakeshoredrive.com/2008/09/fsd-rhymefest-present-great-debaters_09.html

^^^pretty funny

And Consequence?

(1995) 8 Ball and MJG - Space Age Pimpin'

that crazy space shit that don't even make no sense

i wouldn't really put rhymefest in w.these dudes at all though, he's just an awesome workaday MC type dude

http://fakeshoredrive.com/2008/08/fsd-rhymefest-present-great-debaters.html

^^^good read for this tbomb from killer mike:

KM: If you look at most southern rappers who are successful, they walk in the room with a $70 pair of jeans, $5 white tee and a $60 pair of sneakers – with a chain, hat and sunglasses. Every successful “so-called” conscious rapper is usually rockin’ a $400 shirt, $600 jeans and some sneakers that regular people can’t pronounce or obtain. Who really reflects the value of the people?

i think its kind of astretch to call these dudes 'conscious' anymore

yeah i just meant remember when kanye was bringing us fake rawkus dudes like fest and cons instead of this soft serve space age rap

(1988) Eric B. & Rakim - Follow The Leader

So follow me and were ya thinkin' you were first?
Let's travel at magnificent speeds around the Universe
What could ya say as the Earth gets further and further away
Planets are small as balls of clay
Astray into the Milky Way - world's outasight
Far as the eye can see - not even a satellite
Now stop and turn around and look
As ya stare in the darkness, ya knowledge is took!
So keep starin soon ya suddenly see a star
You better follow it cause it's the R
This is a lesson if ya guessin and if ya borrowin
Hurry hurry step right up and keep followin
The Leader

what drug did kanye discover two years ago? ecstasy?

If you transported your common-or-garden wannabe Rawkus MC from 08 to the present day though, would they be doing this stuff?

it's so obviously Teh Internets. their whole fanbase is organized on the internet and its really the only medium they've used at all, to the degree that it has actually been leveraged into things like ticket sales and magazine covers and ads, etc.

it's true that Lupe is basically the blueprint for their style though.

xxp - http://www.squarefootagefilms.com/smith/images/zoloft_02.jpg

fucking charles hamilton is the most annoying dude ever

really this is a-traks fault for getting kanye on that daft punk/krautrock tip while they were touring

that's like blaming someone for introducing an alcoholic to smack, kanye was always gonna go on some corny non-rap tangent at some point or another.

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no one actually listens to this "soft serve space age rap"...it's all complete bullshit

besides kanye's new album which really has no business having the word rap attached to it. no one's gonna listen to common's new crap just like electric circus

i dunno...i think there's a proven and growing audience for this stuff, even if the media is inflating its influence (which is kind of a chicken and the egg thing, but whatever).

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^^^these dudes are creative producers but really really boring rappers

yeah i was listening to a charles hamilton tape and the production was pretty cool if not a little corny but it's like he was purposefully trying not to flow or rap interestingly

percee p's last album was good meat and potatoes shit i thought

I thought "soft serve space age rap" was going to mean autotune robot voice stuff. Which kind of makes me a douchebag I guess?

"that first Dream Warriors is good shit btw"

i heard that 2nd album for the first time this year, and i was impressed! i like it even more than the first one. (though i haven't listened to the first album in a gazillion years.) 2nd album is much deeperdarkerthickerstronger.

"no Dr. Octagon?"

no company flow?

deltron and octagon are prime offenders imo

gorillaz by way of association too

i couldn't get enough of this album when it came out:

http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/31X9K0H2W9L.jpg

p.m. dawn too those fuckers

this makes me sad

That was meant as more of a "I'd rather have a pancake for breakfast than a dry piece of toast, but neither of them comes close to a well-made Western omelette". i.e. - Jeezy is a boring, boring rapper. The only interesting tracks on his last album came from, imho, the interesting producers.

did i already mention on ilm how much i liked that cool kids bake sale EP. i wanna hear their new album. um, not that they are space age. but they are, like, retro and shit. way better than any other retro shit i've heard. like the ugly duckling or jurassic five or whoever.

I still blap with that SOB

pharrell established the fashion template and kanye the regular guy subject matter and lupe the geeky finer points

^^^^

that said voted lupe cause he combines them all

i completely forgot what this thread was about. sorry. i don't listen to none of these guys in the poll. they are pretty soft serve though. except for jimmy iovine. he's hardcore.

tru

kanye may align himself with a lot of this stuff but i don't really hear any of this subgenre's lesser lights trying to specifically follow in his footsteps...definitely more pharrell.

disagree about new hood rappers having less personality...the soft-serve guys are swift to package up a readymade "personality", or idea of personality, for people to jump on but that's not really sufficient. i still like kid sister though.

jeezy's lyrics on the recession were more interesting than his voice or the production (though those were great too).

xpz

digable planets

damn are some people in this thread missing the point

^^^^

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i wish "missing the point" was a poll option

Jim my Iovine has a lot to answer for for the doors that were opened by Wyclef becoming a celebrity.

i find wyclef to be sorta loveable.

Me too! That's why I specified the doors that were opened by him and not him. Especially in terms of over the top corny sincerity and stuff.

haha Jim MY Iovine pal

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is soft serve gonna go mainstream in 09 or are these dudes gonna go away

These dudes are gonna go away but Jay-Z's going to drop the soft servest album in history.

its not gonna go mainstream but i cant imagine that blogs will stop talking about them

lookin for yo 1# spot potm12??

putting the finishing touches on my first 7 mixtapes right now....look out for my soon-to-be-blogged series of youtubes exclusively featuring me shopping for New Eras. It's gonna be called "February of Fitteds"

^^lol post no joke

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sometimes I think ILXors just don't like this "space age" kinda rap cuz they secretly desire the thug life and would desperately put down their critiquing-pens to participate in a smash 'n grab...

http://cdn.screenjunkies.com/www/sites/default/files/images/2009/Avatar_Day_Blown_Mind.jpg

a good a time as any to bring out the rarely-used original definition of CHALLOPS

lol @ the thought of any of us goin thug

if i was feeling ambitious i'd crosspost wdyll photos with crime reports from newspapers.

i always thought Big Hoos had a skypager and a Tech-Nine in his backseat....

i don't know why what kind of rap you listen to is always treated as some kind of rorschach test for what kind of person you are or what kind of life you'd like to lead. i listen to lots of types of raging id music besides gangsta/ignorant rap, and nobody's ever told me loving guns'n'roses is a symptom of my desire for the...white thug life or whatever you might call it.

I listen to Classical music because I want to be a German with a big wig.

lol i know that but i mean sometimes there seems to be a backlash against listening to rap that isn't about poppin' off here.

poppage is just the best topic for rap lyrics is all

http://usera.ImageCave.com/cockstar19/tjozfloVd3n1bbmdVDPETWUZ_400.jpg

miss u soft serve rap

These dudes are gonna go away but Jay-Z's going to drop the soft servest album in history.

well kanye still makes headlines but he no longer fits here

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oSgiuBz-fWY

Everything is soft serve space age rap now, while also being hard street rap, and pop music

(1995) 8 Ball and MJG - Space Age Pimpin'

― Mangiafuoco (PappaWheelie V), Tuesday, December 2, 2008 12:59 PM (eleven years ago) bookmarkflaglink

lol this is the first thing i think of every time i see this thread title