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who are the thinkers hidden beyond different kinds of pop music? let's make links! g.deleuze- german and viennese abstract electronica.. mille plateaux, mego e.m. cioran- new york hard noise from the eighties.....

― francesco, Wednesday, 29 May 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

Are we talking influence or effect here?
Philip K Dick has had a big impact.

― cuba libre (nathalie), Wednesday, 29 May 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

many of quirky rocker beck's lyrics come from the cut-up techniques invented by beatnik poet william s burroughs in the 1970s!! also bob dylans parents named him after robert 'dylan' thomas.

― ethan, Wednesday, 29 May 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

also some rappers such as blackalicious, common, and even the beastie boys, make references to literature in their work.

― ethan, Wednesday, 29 May 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

i bet you didn't know this but rap classic "peter piper" is based on the childrens book classic about a little boy who never wanted to grow up.

― jess, Wednesday, 29 May 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

yes both direct influence and implicit analogies.

― francesco, Wednesday, 29 May 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

cubalibre- both diesct inluence and implicit analogies...true p.k.d was enourmously influential in all the artistic domain but I can't find a strong link with music project or scenes..

― francesco, Wednesday, 29 May 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

there is no such thing as infulence so this thread is doomed

― mark s, Wednesday, 29 May 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

oh ethan my sides.

"thinkers hidden beyond different kinds of pop music" --> the definition of ILx yay!!

― Tracer Hand, Wednesday, 29 May 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

I think he was into Booty Bass. Seriously (?), wasn't one Sonic Youth based on a Philip K Dick novel? Sister? I can't recall. Gibson has also been name-checked by them and others.
Pop art and fluxus also played an ~~influene~~ impact.
Harry Crews as well, but only a minor player. Lydia Lunch and Kim Gordon has a band named after him.

― cuba libre (nathalie), Wednesday, 29 May 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

"Lines of flight" which allow you to take yourself elsewhere are better than links that bind things together. (© Deleuze) (sometimes it's a good idea to actually read and maybe even apply what some of these "thinkers" thought instead of just name-checking them eh?)

― Tracer Hand, Wednesday, 29 May 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

Cue: start bonus track on NWW's "Chance Meeting..."

― cuba libre (nathalie), Wednesday, 29 May 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

kick that thug shit vibe magazine on some love shit / keep it real kid you don't know who you fuckin wit

― ethan, Wednesday, 29 May 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

tracer-maybe g.d. suffers gratuitous quoting more than others (this trend has a little faded lately) but in a way or in other it seems that people who quote him put in their artistic project some echo of his thoughts.... think, instead, of the idiotic post- industrial nazi folk ( sol invictus....) and his tratment on authors like junger or nietzsche

― francesco, Wednesday, 29 May 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

no YOU think, instead, of US as the philosophers and necessary for all pop to exist! that's what i do, anyway

never heard sol invictus so it's hard for me to think about..... however i am just reminded of this. I can't say I see the connection with Deleuze, though.

― Tracer Hand, Wednesday, 29 May 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

Word on the 'street' is that KRS-One is (a) a philosopher and (b) thinks very deeply.

― Nate Patrin, Wednesday, 29 May 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

I can't say I see the connection with Deleuze, though.
Because he's hiding so well. From Mark S maybe? ;-)

― cuba libre (nathalie), Wednesday, 29 May 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

Word on the street is KRS-One is unrational and thinks our children grow up prisoners, all their life radio listeners.

― J Blount, Wednesday, 29 May 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

and if i evah find him!!

― mark s, Wednesday, 29 May 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

dude, ghost in the machine, dude

― J Blount, Wednesday, 29 May 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

Gary Numan / Philip K. Dick Sabbath and Zeppelin / Crowley L. Ron Hubbard / Himself (I refer to his BATTLEFIELD EARTH LP) The Alan Parsons Project / E.A. Poe Moby / Herman Melville (JUST KIDDING... sheesh)

And I heard that quirky rocker Sade was named after the Marquis de Sade. WOW!

― Jody Beth Rosen, Thursday, 30 May 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

there's an L. Ron Hubbard LP??!

― Tracer Hand, Thursday, 30 May 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

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